High St Shopping Centre (Abbtfd) | Completed
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I don't think this is a debate at all. The Mt. Lehman location makes sense. I don't think anyone is looking to stick something of this size at the Aldergrove exit (264th), at 232nd or some obscure exit between Abbotsford and Chilliwack. Heck, most of the Abbotsford exits are already commercial centres (Mt. Lehman, Clearbrook, McCallum and Sumas).
For anyone living on the Mt. Lehman side of town (like myself), we often have to go all the way to Sumas or South Fraser Way to get our shopping done. Now we can stick closer to home. |
Any residential density as a part of the project, or is it all shopping?
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kinda makes me think there trying to do what surrey has done with the grandview area
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Does Grandview Corners have underground parking?
This one strikes me as better than Village at Park Royal because almost all parking is underground and the buildings come to the lot line. |
actually things like the super walmart do have underground parking
and i think the future shop might have some too plus grandview apparently has 930,000 sq ft of retail space |
No, Grandview Corners is typical big box with huge swaths of parking lots to cross or just drive from one store to the next. Only the Southwest portion compares with a more high street approach. With Abby Lane, park your car at one spot, go to as many stores as your heart desires.
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also thats not even including whats over on morgan crossing
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i've had no problem walking around grandview=S
also to the it being just a typical big box store area i got to say theres a lot there here a list of what i could find Aldo BCBG Maxazria Calvin Klein Casbah Evolution Chatters CIBC Coast Capital Savings Cupcakes EB Games Extreme Garage Crush Grandview Corners Dental & Wellness Great Clips Hallmark H&M HMV Home Depot Indigo Books In The Pink @ Home IRIS Optical Jack & Jill Ladies Boutique La Senza/La Senza Girl La Vie En Rose Le Chateau Mark’s Work Wearhouse Moores Clothing for Men Moka House Cafe/Bistro Nail Studio Pebblecreek Custom Furniture Pharmasave/Canada Post Please Mum(Opening April 4) RW & Co Scotiabank Shoe Warehouse Smart Set Sony Style Sterling Shoes Subway TD Canada Trust Telus The Children’s Place Tim Horton’s Tommy Hilfiger Turner/Geox ULiquor Store ULounge Wal-Mart Supercentre |
Here is a visual representation of the site location. There exists sufficient space for the intensified development although many of the homes on Cardinal have for sale signs up on the lawns since unrelated commercial construction has commenced near the Esso gas station (the red roof building near Bluejay Street). Also, the upper right corner near the Old Yale Road curve has been sold for commercial application, although not part of this project.
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1...anproposal.jpg |
Finally Hwy #1 is finally catching up. Nice to another development like Grandview Corners & the 60 stores under construction at Morgan Crossing pop up next to our billion dollar freeway. These developments remind me of the ones I see all over the GTA but with way less surface parking and shorter walking distances between shopping. Totally makes sense, +1 Vancouver/Abbotsford for getting with the 'times'. Hopefully that fresh interchange can handle the traffic this mall will attract.
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To me it looks like a smart place for a shopping center. From what the environmentalists are saying one imagines that the mall is being built in an area consisting of nothing but farmland 10/20 kilometers away from any subdivision or other commercial development. Also the mall itself looks quite well designed, it is not 70% surface parking like a typical sprawl mart. Again it seems like people loosing perspective.
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there is underground parking at grandview - under wal-mart, and behind where the shops are like tommy hillfigger is 3 levels of parking - but yes most of it is parking lots on the ground
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The website for this project appears to have been updated. The new info is that the main anchors of this new mall are a London Drugs and a Wal-Mart Supercentre.
http://www.shapeproperties.com/project_abby.html It is also renamed "High Street". |
It's funny how people seem to keep mentioning that the mall and related developments along the highway corridor are NOT related to the highway's expansion further west.
In a way that's the same as saying there's no conclusive evidence to prove that induced demand will impact proposed road expansion projects. The truth is... we're seeing the beginning signs of a potentially bad induced demand situation... one that will put strain on roads and require their expansion once again. And that will probably spur even more developments up and down the area. |
Pretty smart shopping centre. Nice and dense, I like the concept.
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Thank you! Looking at the render posted by Mr.X there is very little surface parking, it is actually a very dense looking suburban shopping center, and it is located in an area that is already commercial and residential.
Again, people here need to travel down the I-5 to see what a true urban sprawl center looks like, where 80% of the land area of the development is parking and there is not a residential housing area within miles of the development. This will service Abbotsford very well, and many people in Abbtosford will not need to use the highway to access it. As for those living North of the River, I am willing to bet that the idea of spending 6 dollars on tolls will keep shoppers away from more spur of the moment or frivolous shopping outings. Only will they generally go with a very determined goal in mind (they need tog there to get something specific they can not find near by). Maybe if downtown Vancouver expanded the underground shopping center and demolished Sears, replacing it with a larger department/multi-level mall shopping center, properly connected with transit, there would not be such a high demand for such shopping centers along highways... |
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What it most likely means it that exterior construction will be done at that time and it will be ready to turn over to tenants for build out. Usually takes an additional 90days before they are ready to open. Not a fan of this type of development but it is market appropriate.
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