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jlousa Oct 4, 2011 6:05 PM

188 Keefer | 45.7m | 17fl | Completed
 
Westbank Projects Corp. has applied to the City of Vancouver to rezone 601-627 Main Street from Historic Area (HA-1A) District to Comprehensive Development (CD-1) District. The proposal is for a 17-storey mixed-use commercial and residential development with an underground parking garage. The proposed development is comprised of 9,225.9 square feet (875.1 square metres) of ground floor retail, 16 floors of residential with 26 units of senior housing and 145 units of market housing, and 1,828.9 square feet (169.9 square metres) of amenity space. The proposal will include 76 parking stalls, two loading spaces (Class B), and 215 bicycle stalls. The proposed floor space ratio (FSR) is 7.88 and height is 150 feet (45.7 metres).

officedweller Oct 4, 2011 8:48 PM

Thanks.

That's not much retail space.

hollywoodnorth Oct 4, 2011 11:00 PM

yup what a waste of retail and office space .... as the current building is 3 floors all commercial.

but what a prime site and really could be a turning point for Chinatown as we know it. Living mere blocks away I will be all over this project :)

Alex Mackinnon Oct 5, 2011 12:02 AM

So, who wants to bet there's going to be graffiti decrying this for not being 100% social housing?:haha:

jlousa Oct 16, 2011 6:48 PM

Here's the proposal. This project will be a partnership between Westbank and a Korean company. Should bring some positive energy to the area.

Project Stats
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...ojectstats.pdf

Site Plan
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...s/siteplan.pdf

Parkade Level Plans
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...ts/parkade.pdf

Floor Plans
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...floorplans.pdf

Building Elevation Drawings
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...elevations.pdf

Building Section Drawings
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...s/sections.pdf

Shadow Diagram
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...nts/shadow.pdf

Streetscape
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...treetscape.pdf

Landscape Drawings
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin.../landscape.pdf

officedweller Oct 16, 2011 10:57 PM

Tower looks very typical - i.e. infill - whihc isn't all that bad.

The main issue I see is the podium facade facing Main st. It need more articulation - i.e. vary it so it looks like a number of side-by-side Chinatown buildings with the deep balconies.

hollywoodnorth Oct 16, 2011 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by officedweller (Post 5446545)
Tower looks very typical - i.e. infill - whihc isn't all that bad.

yup I totally agree. overall I like it quite a bit and will be very happy to watch this move forward.

Millennium2002 Oct 17, 2011 4:58 AM

The development sounds nice if it was placed anywhere else... but I don't feel too good about that lack of office or retail space to replace what is lost... and in fact I'm rather skeptical if we can keep Chinatown as a whole.

LeftCoaster Oct 17, 2011 3:32 PM

I really like the size of the podium, a 7 storey streetwall will look great in that block. Agreed with OD that a little variety on the podium would be nice, but definitely not a deal breaker imo.

Don't know where you guys plan on putting the extra retail, almost the entire street level is devoted to retail from what I can see on the floorplan.

jlousa Oct 17, 2011 4:26 PM

I don't think any additional retail is needed, the ground floor for retail is plenty, there currently a glut of retail space in Chinatown with no need to flood the market with more empty spaces. A partial floor of officespace on the 2nd would be optimal in my opinion but isn't in the cards.

webster Oct 17, 2011 5:02 PM

a lot of studios, including many small units around 330 SF

I didn't get throught the whole document - are these rental/social housing or market units?

wrenegade Oct 17, 2011 5:10 PM

Definitely an interesting building, floorplan-wise. I think a lot of the units work, even with some pretty small sizes. The studios in the 350 sf range though, yikes. I understand people in other countries/cultures (asia) live in much smaller spaces than we do here, but I personally don't see that being healthy. Something in the 400s is about all I could be comfortable with. Very nice use of outdoor amenity space though, I am glad to see a lot more of that. As for the exterior, hopefully it is just lousy computer renderings, but I think it looks terrible.

red-paladin Oct 18, 2011 12:14 AM

I like the project, I like the massing. I agree that the details on the exterior are bland, as least based on the links above.

jlousa Jul 4, 2012 8:50 PM

Okay here's the reworked design, although the original passed thru the udp the developer agreed to work to improve the design.

Site Plan Data
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...teplan_000.pdf

Rendering
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin.../rendering.pdf

Partial North Elevation
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...artialelev.pdf

Parkade Level Plans
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...ts/parking.pdf

Floor and Roof Plans
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...rplans_000.pdf

Building Elevation Drawings
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...ents/elevs.pdf

Building Section Drawings
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...ctions_000.pdf

Shadow Analysis
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...ts/shadows.pdf

Streetscape
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...tscape_000.pdf

Landscape Drawings
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...dscape_000.pdf

Personally I think it's a improvement over the original.

SFUVancouver Jul 4, 2012 10:00 PM

Thanks for posting, Jlousa.

I agree that this is an improvement and I am intrigued by the pattern/images on the wall. Spaces like that have such potential to add to the streetscape, instead of simply acting as a blank painted concrete shearwall.

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/4799/601main.jpg
Source: http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin.../rendering.pdf

red-paladin Jul 4, 2012 10:27 PM

O.o

This is exactly the type of architecture I think should be there! I love the recessed balconies and grills!

officedweller Jul 4, 2012 11:21 PM

Definitely better - the balconies on the podium are nicer and the awkward irregularity of the tower is gone.

It would be nice to see some yellow brick, though. Red brick can be "heavy".

Jebby Jul 5, 2012 12:01 AM

Looks great.

hollywoodnorth Jul 5, 2012 1:25 AM

I really like this now!

the Solterra Project across Keefer is all boarded up now.

Klazu Jul 5, 2012 2:19 AM

Great addition to DTES!


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