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NYguy Nov 1, 2007 6:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tdawg (Post 3139865)
wow. how many 1,000+ do we have proposed/under construction now in the city? anyone know?

That's hard to nail down because so many developments are in a state of flux. We know there are 3 at the WTC site, but it could be twice that or more in Midtown (not including BofA and Times).

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 7:00 PM

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Originally Posted by STERNyc (Post 3139982)
What's really surprising to me is that Extell is starting work on a tall tower as is Moinian. Has the 7 line even started construction yet? Right now there is no middle ground, theres these construction sites and then gas-stations, chop shops, junk shops, mcdonalds, clubs, and parking lots.

A lot of this will happen simultaneously. The City has quietly acquired all of the land it needs for the subway extension, and the planned Hudson Boulevard. Everything is moving according to plan, except the Javits Center expansion. Spitzer came into office with the promise of moving things along, but has proven to be just as slow if not worse than Pataki in getting these things moving along. Despite that however, the rest of the developments are taking shape.

Because of complications regarding the winner of the railyards site, and its various bidders/tenants, some of the other developers in the area are waiting to pick up the pieces from the fallout. Everyone looking to may get to move to the west side, one way or another.

It's like the city has created a big playground for developers, and said "go out and play!"

BVictor1 Nov 1, 2007 7:17 PM

http://i3.tinypic.com/6gxj9s6.jpg

It's nice, simple.

It reminds me somewhat of an extruded version of 7WTC from certain angles.

VA_Gentleman Nov 1, 2007 8:08 PM

Great tower. Great news. It reminds me a little of the citigroup center.

Dac150 Nov 1, 2007 8:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 3139611)
Right. Given the fact that just a few short years ago, people were writing off tall skyscraper construction in the city (in the aftermath of 9/11), it's really impressive. It's as if the floodgates have opened, as the bulk of skyscraper developments on the west side now include 1,000 footers. It will be really interesting to see who pushes away from the crowd, creating the dominant tower in the area.

True to no end.:yes: I am just very happy that this supertall and many more to come will make home in the Manhattan Skyline.

This reminds me of when skyscrapers in Manhattan were just starting out. Nothing built back then but TALL, beautiful, bold, iconic buildings. These new developements prove that history does indeed repeat itself.

CoolCzech Nov 1, 2007 9:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aluminum (Post 3138742)
Supertall. *yawn*
Wait a minute, "supertall with No Spire !!!! :omg:" :cheers: :cheers: :tup:


Oh, yeah, they're such exciting looking... rectangles:rolleyes:

Doesn't it ever occur to you that spires add variety and excitement?

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dac150 (Post 3140279)
This reminds me of when skyscrapers in Manhattan were just starting out. Nothing built back then but TALL, beautiful, bold, iconic buildings. These new developements prove that history does indeed repeat itself.

This rendering also reminds me of those old photos of the early days, when buildings like Rockefeller Center and Chrysler were first built. They dominated in a way that would be hard to imagine now. This tower likewise will be surrounded by other towers in the future. In fact, its hard to say if this would be the first to rise at all.

http://i19.tinypic.com/4md2irm.jpg

NYguy Nov 1, 2007 10:19 PM

Comparison to other monoliths...

http://i12.tinypic.com/6czw7ro.jpghttp://farm2.static.flickr.com/1008/...d1dac6be_o.jpghttp://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/66811556/medium.jpghttp://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/66462508/medium.jpg


http://curbed.com/uploads/2007_10_girasole2.jpg

BVictor1 Nov 1, 2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolCzech (Post 3140401)
Oh, yeah, they're such exciting looking... rectangles:rolleyes:

Doesn't it ever occur to you that spires add variety and excitement?

When integrated properly into the overall design of a building and not just ploped on haphazardly.

charmedone Nov 1, 2007 11:03 PM

wow anoyther 1000 footer its about time new york city builds bigger i mean they have in the past few years but they have been useing spires to cheat the hight of there buildings im glad to see that these builldings dont have that

zuelas Nov 2, 2007 3:10 AM

I was excited when i saw the listing for a new 1000+ ft proposal for NYC. Then I saw the design and was extremely underwhelmed. It's as though the architects made a very tall box then cut out 2 small sections from the top.... and that was it, nothing else. I was very surprised to see everyone exclaiming their excitement over the bldg. Yeah, it's tall but what else? Trust me, I'd take it for my dwntwn in a heartbeat, but is it exceptional for NYC? You'd think there'd be room for creating something striking in this market for the '3rd' dwntwn of manhattan. Blehk....

Dac150 Nov 2, 2007 3:30 AM

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Originally Posted by zuelas (Post 3141132)
I was excited when i saw the listing for a new 1000+ ft proposal for NYC. Then I saw the design and was extremely underwhelmed. It's as though the architects made a very tall box then cut out 2 small sections from the top.... and that was it, nothing else. I was very surprised to see everyone exclaiming their excitement over the bldg. Yeah, it's tall but what else? Trust me, I'd take it for my dwntwn in a heartbeat, but is it exceptional for NYC? You'd think there'd be room for creating something striking in this market for the '3rd' dwntwn of manhattan. Blehk....

This is modern NYC architecture. The building is a poster child for a new breed of buildings (green). It's tall, innovative, and beneficial to the enviroment. Plus its a supertall without a spire.

IMO, it's just what the doctor ordered.

BrandonJXN Nov 2, 2007 3:59 AM

Even though the name GiraSole sounds like some sort of foot medicine, I really love this tower. This is how to make a gracefull, classy building. Simple, clean, and modern through and through. I love it.

Lecom Nov 2, 2007 4:11 AM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dr. Taco Nov 2, 2007 4:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dac150 (Post 3141168)
This is modern NYC architecture. The building is a poster child for a new breed of buildings (green). It's tall, innovative, and beneficial to the enviroment. Plus its a supertall without a spire.

IMO, it's just what the doctor ordered.

you mean they're gonna start making green-glass skyscrapers now? its about time!

James Bond Agent 007 Nov 2, 2007 5:59 AM

Damn, so many supertalls u/c or proposed in Manhattan I can't keep track of them all. ;)

Jularc Nov 2, 2007 6:17 AM

:tup: They already started digging at the site! I guess they want to be the first ones with the planned hotels rooms in the area.


From scumonkey at WNY...


NYguy Nov 2, 2007 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by charmedone (Post 3140601)
wow anoyther 1000 footer its about time new york city builds bigger i mean they have in the past few years but they have been useing spires to cheat the hight of there buildings im glad to see that these builldings dont have that

Glad to see you wasted your "1" post on that...:rolleyes:

NYguy Nov 2, 2007 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by zuelas (Post 3141132)
You'd think there'd be room for creating something striking in this market for the '3rd' dwntwn of manhattan. Blehk....

You seem to speak as if this is the "centerpiece" of the new west side of Manhattan. It isn't. It's a mixed-use tower that is as tall as it is because of zoning. There doesn't have to be anything exceptional about it. The height alone is "striking", considering its an area that barely has any highrises. Want a tower that screams for attention? Go to Dubai. That's not how they do it in New York, although we do have some nice ones.

NYguy Nov 2, 2007 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jularc (Post 3141423)
:tup: They already started digging at the site! I guess they want to be the first ones with the planned hotels rooms in the area.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...nkey/Nview.jpg

From scumonkey at WNY...

That's great. Now if they could just select a winning bidder for the convention center hotel, the pieces can begin to fall into place. You can see the plaza that will be the site of the hotel in the background of that pic. Moinian is one of the 3 bidders for that one as well. I wonder if they would start this tower without an anchor tenant...


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