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But lights should be a high priority. But seeing how it is a federal highway, maintained by the provincial government, it realistically won't happen unless there is a large public outcry for it to happen. (Correct me if I'm wrong, but am I right in saying that the city of St. John's doesn't own or maintain the ORR?) |
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Then we should move the Confederation Building to Karwood and they'll have to sort it out. |
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I wish the provincial government would just force amalgamation. This is ridiculous. It's embarrassingly backwards and counter-productive.
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I'm not sure how recent it is, but here is something about a traffic study, "City of St. John's VISUM Model Development". The maps are hard to make out, but at least the first one appears to show traffic flows in the city.
http://www.hatchmott.com/projects/ci...el-development |
Construction continues at the airport. Looks like they are moving closer to a new entrance road.
Here an announcement from today - "As of 7am on Monday, Oct. 15th, the road exiting from the Airport Terminal Building will be realigned to accommodate construction. The new route is outlined in blue, while the entrance (outlined in green) will remain unchanged for now. This routing will be in effect until the new access road is complete, scheduled for the end of November." http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/...psbffc1ff3.jpg |
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ok guys I would like to get a constructive convo on the go about the bus system What type of system or routes would you like to see in the city or what do you suggest for am efficient system?? here's what I would like to see... it's kind of based on how subway systems work (but with express routes) I think there should be key hubs (downtown, the village, stavanger, MUN as the major hubs) then some minor hubs such as CNA, Marine institute, confederation bldg) ... between these major hubs there will be express routes (in the future ideally with bus lanes to make it even more effeciant) and with them leaving very frequently To and from the minor hubs, there should be express or semi express routes connecting them to the major hubs Then from all major hubs have the standard meandering routes branching from them which would be shorter now than they are currently .. these would be designed to get people to the hubs so they can get from one major area to another fast .. Also these express routes can use the highway to say connect the avalon mall and stavanger or mun and stavanger etc. Also Downtown I think there could be one stop in the west end which would be the major one and then another stop for the hub on the east end like in front of the sheraton but between them have the old street car letting people on and off going around downtown. This system (while we wait for regional cooperation lol) they can make park and ride areas even within the municipal boarders just right at the edge and have shuttle buses to say downtown or to other hubs from them ... then later when other municipallities come on board they can designate a hub or a couple of hubs within their boundries and connect them easily to the others thoughout the city, this way there is a fast and efficient system Also when this is in place there can be incentives such as the U pass for university students and DT parking deterrents to increase ridership they could also have buses late night like thurs-saturday nights to shuttle ppl to hubs to be closer to where they live what do you think? What do you guys suggest? |
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Winnipeg has a variety of the same system, the park and rides definitely need some work. However the rush hour service works quite well! Late night, with 30/45/60 min feeder frequencies do well, any higher frequencies usually suffer. Late night buses on main routes die down fast after 12am. Do the outer towns already have service? I honestly have no idea, came here because my transit forum has no St. Johns members, and I can always rely on SSP to have transit threads :P |
Here is something which may be useful, or at least info-taining, when thinking about public transit.
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there's a system in chile which is like a taxi/bus hybrid ... it's called colectivos (collectives)
How it works is there are set routes and there are taxis which only go along these routes, and they go when someone gets in them and pick up people along the way who need to go on the same route (like a bus) and you pay a fraction of the cost that you would for a taxi because its like a cost shared taxi. and you pay different prices based on how far you are going. it was great in vina chile ... however its very dense there I dont know how we could maybe adapt it for our city .. it would probably have to be for MUN students .. I could see it working for that quite well actually going to and from areas that commonly have students and acts like small buses or taxis that you share hmm :rolleyes: Of course they had buses too and Taxis, this was just another piece of the puzzle Apparently this is quite common all around the world lol even says quebec has a form of this Quote:
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+1 for the park-and-ride system; although, a caveat here is that it must be an efficient way to travel. No one wants to take an extra 30 mins to arrive to their destination, they'll all resort back to using cars... and in a car crazy city such as this place, it wouldn't take much. In all seriousness, even if public transit progresses in the city I think we're quite some time away from park-and-rides. I'd settle for better express routes in the interim.
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Here's some news articles from metrobus.com
There actually are some very good things happening with the buses, only of the system routes are revamped it could become a very good transit service New semi-express services to start in September Quote:
Metrobus Partners with the AIR MILES Reward Program, Becomes First Transit Authority in the World to Offer Consumer Loyalty Points with Every Ride Quote:
So there are good things happening .. also the wifi is a good step as well Metrobus Transit takes delivery of nine new fully accessible low-floor buses Quote:
Also the bike spaces on the buses are another step in the right direction AND HERE'S THE KEY: Transit study recommends increased investment and regional transit service Quote:
There are good things happening with the buses and improvements are being made (even innovative ones) however the keys are (1) a route overhaul with various types of routes including express routes... (2) a regional system |
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This is a good article about the total lack of a good public transit system and lack of regional cooperation. I think what needs to happen is that all these small towns on the border of St. John's start their own small services that will bring people to major drop off points in the city. Run one every hour (or to suit the demand) to let's say, the village mall (major hub for metrobus), downtown, stavanger drive, avalon mall, etc. on a non-stop express route and see how well that works out for a while. As the article states, these towns are growing at rapid rates, have increasing revenues and I think they should be investing some of this into doing something creative about transit. Metrobus doesn't have to be the one and only. |
Landing System Installation Could Face Delay
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I hope they figure it out soon!! |
Oh my.. Lets hope they get this figured out soon because we desperately need that tech!
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Aww... too bad. Hopefully their budget is realistic and they just didn't get much interest from busy contractors.
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