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summersm343 Nov 5, 2015 1:11 AM

PHILADELPHIA | 3800 Market | 323 & 204 FT | 19 & 12 FLOORS
 
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8553/2...8ccddffb_o.png
Screen Shot 2016-08-29 at 11.20.18 PM by Matt Summers, on Flickr

Title: 3800 Market
Project: Office Space, Commercial space, lab space, retail
Architect: ZGF Architects
Developer: University City Science Center and Wexford Science & Technology
Location: 3800 Market Street, Philadelphia, PA
Neighborhood: University City
District: West Philadelphia
Floors: 19 & 12 floors
Height: 323 & 204 feet

Quote:

ZGF created a 440,000 SF office tower concept to house clinical and administrative programs. Conceived in two phases to address the Science Center's projected growth, Phase I features a 19 story, 345,000 SF office tower with ground level retail, two levels of below-grade parking, two levels of above grade parking, and a penthouse. Phase II is comprised of a 12 story, 95,000 SF office tower.
http://issuu.com/zgfarchitectsllp/do...45747/10513963

summersm343 Nov 5, 2015 1:22 AM

This sign has been up for a while:

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...23&oe=56CAFF67

This sign is new:

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...f4&oe=56C972A9

Austinlee Nov 5, 2015 3:57 AM

Nice work. But do we have the project cost? I am always interested in the price tag because often times you can glean the quality of construction from the price. I realize that info is not always available.

For example, a 500 ft tower with a half a billion price tag usually indicates high quality as an example.

hammersklavier Nov 5, 2015 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Austinlee (Post 7223915)
Nice work. But do we have the project cost? I am always interested in the price tag because often times you can glean the quality of construction from the price. I realize that info is not always available.

For example, a 500 ft tower with a half a billion price tag usually indicates high quality as an example.

Well, given the quality of the Science Center's last two projects -- 3601 and 3737 Market -- I don't think it'll be an issue.

Also, between this, 3400, 37th and Market (3619?), and 3.0 University Place, that's like four major office projects in University City ... :surrender:

McBane Nov 5, 2015 12:59 PM

Is this legit? As in this is actually moving forward now? Or did they just update their branding on the site? I would assume that Wexford and Sci Center are focusing all of their energies and resources on the former high school, but I'd love to be wrong.

UPenn18 Nov 5, 2015 11:33 PM

Hmm Summers you did mention that a ~300 ft mixed-use office tower was going to be announced for University City soon... And in the other thread you said it's likely we'd be hearing about this soon. I gotta say my hopes are up for this one!

mmikeyphilly Nov 7, 2015 4:15 PM

Nice looking building!

I have a question?

Is this part of, or one of the phases of "uCity Square" project? Or is this a totally different entity?

There are many proposals coming up in University City, and I'm getting confused. (which isn't hard for me these days) :shrug:

techchallenger Nov 9, 2015 9:27 PM

Edit <Wrong thread>

hammersklavier Nov 9, 2015 11:19 PM

I think the whole Science Center's been rebranded as "uCity Square". They've put new signs up at 34th and Market, too.

TechTalkGuy Nov 9, 2015 11:56 PM

This is exactly what Philadelphia needs to become world-class! :bowtie:

The height is actually quite impressive considering the distance from the center square (city hall).

Now, imagine if skyscrapers extended in all directions of center square for many miles like you have in Manhattan.

I predict in about 35 years, we will see a city transformed.
This is not just about being the tallest, but about growth and urban density.

Miles of skyscrapers is the dream of any city and it looks like Philadelphia is actually doing just that. ;)

summersm343 Apr 5, 2016 1:27 AM

New rendering and info from uCity Square

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...d5&oe=578662F3

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ec&oe=578A3C98

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...40&oe=578F890C

http://ucitysquare.com/site/userfile...y-Overview.pdf

1487 Apr 5, 2016 12:08 PM

That parking lot definitely needs to go. This looks good.

PhilliesPhan Apr 5, 2016 1:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1487 (Post 7395139)
That parking lot definitely needs to go. This looks good.

I agree! The surface lot that currently exists is WAY too big. This project will replace that lot nicely. Hopefully, this development, along with others, will push height and density further west on Market (at least to the area around 40th Street Station).

Arch+Eng Apr 5, 2016 7:33 PM

Nice to see that parking lot go...but what happened to the curved facade?

jsbrook Apr 5, 2016 9:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arch+Eng (Post 7395950)
Nice to see that parking lot go...but what happened to the curved facade?

Yes, the original renders were a better design than the current. Still glad for the development, though.

summersm343 Aug 3, 2016 7:06 PM

3800 Market coming soon? From a Philadelphia Business Journal article today:

Quote:

To ease that pressure, new office buildings are in the pipeline. Construction of 3675 Market St. is underway. The 350,000-square-foot building will have office and lab space, which is already getting gobbled up.

“We have handshakes for about half of it,” Garvey said, declining to disclose the names of the firms that have indicated they want to occupy space in the building.

Even more space is on the way for University City. Garvey said he is already getting feelers for 3800 Market St., a 750,000-square-foot complex that will be constructed in two phases.

A couple of drivers are propelling the activity in University City. “It’s new, urban and state-of-the-art product and the environment of University City itself,” he said. “The vibe, the community, the programming and education. It’s amazing the investment that is going on there.”
http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelp...-cre-2016.html

1487 Aug 3, 2016 7:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 7520734)
3800 Market coming soon? From a Philadelphia Business Journal article today:



http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelp...-cre-2016.html

if its 750k sf that's much bigger than the initial proposal. Hopefully that means they are going for something 30+ floors at this location.

summersm343 Aug 3, 2016 8:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1487 (Post 7520829)
if its 750k sf that's much bigger than the initial proposal. Hopefully that means they are going for something 30+ floors at this location.

It's because it's 2 buildings, one 19-20 floor building probably around 500K sq ft and one 12 floor building likely around 250K sq ft.

summersm343 Sep 22, 2016 12:21 AM

3800 Market

Looks like the first tower here will be moving forward and will rise 19 floors and 323 FT tall. The second future tower should be 12 floors and 204 FT tall.

http://ucitysquare.com/wp-content/up...y-1170x500.png

400K sq ft of office space and ground floor retail.

Currently in pre-development, 3800 Market is a speculative lab and office building, offering ground floor retail and on-site parking. The building will have generous views of downtown Philadelphia and is directly adjacent to Penn Presbyterian Medical Center and only two blocks from Penn’s Wharton School.

http://ucitysquare.com/property/3800-market-street/

PhilliesPhan Sep 22, 2016 2:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 7570229)
3800 Market

Looks like the first tower here will be moving forward and will rise 19 floors and 323 FT tall. The second future tower should be 12 floors and 204 FT tall.

http://ucitysquare.com/wp-content/up...y-1170x500.png

400K sq ft of office space and ground floor retail.

Currently in pre-development, 3800 Market is a speculative lab and office building, offering ground floor retail and on-site parking. The building will have generous views of downtown Philadelphia and is directly adjacent to Penn Presbyterian Medical Center and only two blocks from Penn’s Wharton School.

http://ucitysquare.com/property/3800-market-street/

Excellent news! The intersection of 38th and Market should be one of the densest intersections in University City. In fact, the entire 38th Street corridor should be lined with highrise buildings. I'm so happy to hear that this will be one of the first skyscrapers to proceed within the uCity Square development! :cheers:


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