you rip beauiful designs and this is what you think looks good? Those 2 proposals are hideous. It looks like a second grade class had a design contest and those were the 2 worst. To each their own, but please stop acting like you are smarter than everyone else if this is what you call beauty in architecture.

I wish this had been built, in a city that is not mine. It would be fun to see something as ridiculous as this actually existing.

Also Calgary's Bow is great, I really like it.

yeah, adrian, this design is embarrassingly bad, and it ruins any credibility you have when you throw your support behind it. I like a lot of the other buildings you like, and appreciate your inputs, but... oh my gosh, this is fucking god-awful

^i guess we all have different tastes
that what makes this interesting

that is pretty cool minus the ridiculous colors. This isnt the circus. And that looks like where the Crains Building is now. No way in hell should that be torn down. They better find another spot for that one.

WORLD TRADE CENTER CONCEPTUAL DESIGN
KRUECK + SEXTON

New York, New York
2002

This proposal is an affirmation of life, the vitality of the city and of our country's most fundamental values. Glass occuli memorizing the dead are located on the footprints of the original towers. Suspended at the plaza level, they are inscribed with the names of the dead and continuously washed by a thin layer of water. A fragment of the original facade marks the corner of where the North Tower once stood.

The exterior of the building is a changing and ever flexible skin, reflecting the freedoms and the dynamic strength of America. The transparent and lightweight structure placed along Church Street is lifted into the air, welcoming people to this sacred ground.

http://www.ksarch.com/images/archive/wtc_01.jpg
http://www.ksarch.com/images/archive/wtc_02.jpg
http://www.ksarch.com/images/archive/wtc_03.jpg
http://www.ksarch.com/images/archive/wtc_04.jpg
http://www.ksarch.com/images/archive/wtc_05.jpg
http://www.ksarch.com/images/archive/wtc_06.jpg
http://www.ksarch.com/images/archive/wtc_07.jpg
http://www.ksarch.com/images/archive/wtc_08.jpg
http://www.ksarch.com/images/archive/wtc_09.jpg

CRYSTAL TOWER
KRUECK + SEXTON

Chicago, Illinois
1999

Commissioned by Architectural Record as part of their "Futures to Come" series. A realistic speculation on the 21st century skyscraper as a technological type and a symbol of modernity.

Height: exceeding 1,484 feet (452 meters)

http://www.ksarch.com/images/archive...l-tower_01.jpg
http://www.ksarch.com/images/archive...l-tower_02.jpg
http://www.ksarch.com/images/archive...l-tower_03.jpg
http://www.ksarch.com/images/archive...l-tower_04.jpg
http://www.ksarch.com/images/archive...l-tower_05.jpg

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That design may be ahead of its time, but people also may have thought this was ahead of its time....Time will tell. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2...e_mossdorf.jpg

I actually like the building, but the colors are so stupid and pointless. I find your opinion facinating. You call Trump Tower interiors, which are composed of soft colors and dark woods, "tacky" but that proposal isn't??? A building with colors like that is the textbook definition of tacky!!! :haha:

Ha! I almost don't need to say anything, because Itsmotorsport, Hayward, Nowhereman1280, Alliance, northbay420, Patrick, theWatusi, etc. are already saying it for me, almost perfectly in this thread so far! AdrianXSands, including me, you are so obviously and overwhelmingly outnumbered in disagreement.

Noo it was a new proposal, you can clearly see the remains of the North Tower in the renders. Although they do use the Pre-WTC skyline in the renders.

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Those are some horrible, horrible "best" proposals. But if Adrian says it's good it's gotta be good. After all, he just likes good design, as opposed to the rest of the world.

HUDSON YARDS
STEVEN HOLL

New York City, NY, United States, 2007

PROGRAM: master plan mixed-use project
CLIENT: Extell Development Company
SITE AREA: 11,300,000
STATUS: competition phase

Steven Holl Architects have designed a cohesive master plan for both the Eastern Rail Yards and Western Rail Yards in Manhattan that is both physically and technologically integrated. Extell Development Company proposes to transform the Eastern Rail Yards and Western Rail Yards into a world-class, mixed-use, vibrant neighborhood that features world class architecture and inspiring public spaces designed by Steven Holl Architects, that is in harmony with the surrounding environment, and that both minimizes interference with LIRR operations and returns considerable financial value to the MTA. This last large undeveloped Midtown Manhattan site provides an unprecedented opportunity to create a new urban paradigm for the 21st century. While offering a high mixed-use density of 12 million square feet; the proposed suspension deck design maximizes public space and creates a porosity and openness for the site from all sides and approaches, connecting Midtown, the Chelsea Arts District, and the convention center with a grand public park open to the Hudson River; and its innovative structural system for spanning over the Rail Yards will minimize the impacts of development on the Caemmerer Yards and allow it to offer more for the right to develop.

http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...HORIZONTAL.jpg
http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...HORIZONTAL.jpg
http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...CTVERTICAL.jpghttp://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...CTVERTICAL.jpg
http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...HORIZONTAL.jpg
http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...HORIZONTAL.jpg
http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...HORIZONTAL.jpg
http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...HORIZONTAL.jpg
http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...HORIZONTAL.jpg
http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...HORIZONTAL.jpg
http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...HORIZONTAL.jpg

SAIL HYBRID
STEVEN HOLL

Knokke-Heist, Belgium, 2005--

PROGRAM: 3 architectures:

Sail-Like Planar (hotel and apartment tower)
Volumetric (restored, reprogrammed casino)
Porous (congress hall)

CLIENT: Knokke-Heist
SIZE: 232,880 sf
STATUS: design phase

The Belgian seaside resort town of Knokke-Heist required a renovation and transformation of their existing casino. The enhanced program intends to provide an iconic landmark and bolster the town's stature and urban spaces. The Sail Hybrid design was inspired by the René Magritte mural, The Ship Which Tells the Story to the Mermaid, commissioned for the casino in 1953. The mural inspired a hybrid transformation of the casino into three architectures: an early-modern restored volumetric architecture (white restored, reprogrammed casino), a porous-bridge Hybrid Architecture (perforated congress hall), and a sail-like Planar Architecture (glass planes - hotel and apartment tower) to create a synergy of new functions. The new three-part hybrid transformation rebuilds one of Belgium's great architect's fine works, becoming a glowing new beacon on the Atlantic wall and interconnecting the ensemble of city buildings in Knokke-Heist.

http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...an_wotext-.jpghttp://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...pt-Sketch-.jpg
http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...-HORIZONTA.jpg
http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...OJECT-HORI.jpg
http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...-Distant-S.jpg
http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...-PROJECT-V.jpg
http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...W-PROJECT-.jpg
http://www.stevenholl.com/media/file...ess-Hall-E.jpg
http://www.eikongraphia.com/wordpres...okke%20(5).jpg
*www.stevenholl.com

THE CRYSTAL
schmidt hammer lassen

The extension to Nykredit consists of a new building – the Glass Cube – sited northwest of the existing Nykredit premises. Freestanding on the site, it reads as a transparent, geometrical, glazed form, which, resting only on a single point and line, ‘floats’ as a visually light, crystalline structure above the plaza – a crystal.

http://erez.shl.dk/erez3/erez?tmp=Cr...30&quality=100
http://erez.shl.dk/erez3/erez?tmp=Cr...30&quality=100
http://erez.shl.dk/erez3/erez?tmp=Cr...30&quality=100
http://erez.shl.dk/erez3/erez?tmp=Cr...30&quality=100
http://erez.shl.dk/erez3/erez?tmp=Cr...30&quality=100
*http://www.shl.dk

It's where the London Guarantee and Accident building is now. I agree, no way that part of Chicago should be ruined with something like this.

Actually, I kind of like the S&K building design. However, the colors are a bit much and Chicago lacks any real "blobitecture"... If that's the best classification for this design.

Dont you mean 'I guess we'll never know' beings as this wont be built...

yeah thats the name. (I call it the Crain's building)...that is one of my favorite in the city.


This is also a render for the Husdon Yards proposal...That entire thing looks great.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2...yse/hudson.jpg

There's probably a thread on this one in the development section, but I haven't had time to check.

It's the proposed MOMA tower in New York city.
I absolutely love it, possibly one of the best proposals for a modern tower I've seen. When I first saw the plans I immediately thought of an unbuilt constructivist tower designed by two Russian architects 90 years ago. Can't remember the name. But this one adds to that a uniquely modern element through the ingenious use of space enabled by numerous cross beams.

http://www.archiportale.com/immagini...2.jpg?587,6385

http://www.archiportale.com/immagini...8.jpg?677,4822

http://www.archiportale.com/immagini...4.jpg?400,8404

http://www.archiportale.com/immagini...16.jpg?862,785

*all images from www.archiportale.com where they can be greatly enlarged

I agree, but this...

http://www.archiportale.com/immagini...2.jpg?587,6385

AND 'never to be built' that...

http://www.sfgate.com/c/pictures/200...4_skidmore.jpg

(see previous posts for image sources)

Yeah I noticed that they were similar too, but I think I like the MOMA tower is my favourite out of the two.

That said the SOM (I think) Transbay proposal was by far the best, I have no idea why Peli's idea was chosen over it.

:previous: Ducov, you may be interested in this:
See my post #1564 here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...136300&page=79

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Goes to show how little I want to pay attention to Gehry haha:haha:

Ohh Las Vegas has had some great proposals that never made it through.

Oh sexy Club Renaissance, would have been the Bow of the Downtown Las Vegas Ship. Supposibly broke ground in 2005, never made it through.

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/922/ghj5sk.jpg http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3442/ghj3zf.jpg

Ivana Trump's revenge on her ex-husband, the 73 Story Ivana Las Vegas, taller than Trumps 57 story twin towers a few blocks down, ironically Trump won, Ivana's developer backed out due to construction prices.

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/6170/opo8xo.jpg

Vegas 888, too pretty to come true. Damn construction prices.

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/6641/ghj4hp.jpg http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4871/ghj4kh.jpg

George Clooney's Las Ramblas, I was excitied for this multi-towered project, cant remember why he sold the peice of land.

http://www.vow2.com//library/images/...5af53e32b4.jpg

W Las Vegas, a short lived project, no clue what happened, but also cancelled.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1639/0000001lb5.jpg

Icon Las Vegas, held up by a lawsuit by a nearby project Majestic Las Vegas (also eventually cancelled after many delays) due to the blank walls that would face Majestic. Despite the walls, the Miami Styled Icon Las Vegas would have made a welcome addition to the skyline.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5467/ghj3qo.jpg

Crystal Island in Moscow (1476 ft)
http://archi.ru/files/img/news/large650/17734.jpg

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the wolkenbügel
"for a new, rational architecture"
EL LISSITZKY 1925
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...itzky_1925.jpg
http://www.eikongraphia.com/wordpres...nt/14grand.jpg
http://www.iradesign.com/lissitzky/images/238_big.jpg

The Wolkenbügel contradicted America's vertical building style, because the building expanded horizontally in the air to save space on the ground. Lissitzky published an article about his skyscraper project in 1926 in the only issue of the Moscow-based architectural review ASNOVA (The Association of New Architects). He wrote articles for both ASNOVA and the German art journal Das Kunstblatt in which he proposed a new "rational architecture" for East and West that would involve modern architects and "rationalized labor" joining forces with science and high technology.

Uhm, well best proposals for Vegas.

And honsetly, you think these are nice, so we all have our opinions:

Talk about Narsty.

ONE OF THE GREATEST NEVER-BUILT BUILDINGS EVER:

GLASS SKYSCRAPER FOR BERLIN
MIES 1920-21
http://www.eikongraphia.com/wordpres...ber%201922.jpg

ONE OF THE GREATEST NEVER-BUILT BUILDINGS EVER:

PLAN FOR ALEXANDERPLATZ
MIES 1928
http://www.eikongraphia.com/wordpres...cht%201928.jpg

FRIEDRICHSTRASSE SKYSCRAPER
MIES 1919
http://www.eikongraphia.com/wordpres...sse%201919.jpg

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ROCK
JEAN NOUVEL
http://www.eikongraphia.com/wordpres...Vigo%20(4).jpg
http://www.eikongraphia.com/wordpres...Vigo%20(2).jpg
http://www.eikongraphia.com/wordpres...%20desktop.jpg
*http://www.jeannouvel.com/

^Wow - that is sweet.

Though I gotta say that it is hard to evaluate any of these proposals without knowing their programs and how they fit the needs of their clients and the requirements of the site. Still, lots of good eye candy.

The Holl tower is a nice riff on the Friedrichstrasse - good catch there, AdrianXSands.

The two Mies towers are jaw droppers.

I love that part of the plan.

easily the world's best proposal out there. :tup:

crystal island is a monstrosity.

absolutely gorgeous.

That port Vigo tower is very impressive too.

Jean Nouvel is fast becoming one of my most admired currently active architects. His designs excellently juxtapose volumes within the buildings, without becoming flippant like some contemporaries can.

this is my favorite "never built" skyscraper proposal of all time.



Bertrand Goldberg's original 3 tower vision for river city:

http://www.architechgallery.com/arch...ity_towers.jpg
source: http://www.architechgallery.com/arch...ity_towers.jpg




this is what actually got built. it's not bad, but it's not nearly as cool as what could have been.

http://www.iscec.com/images/rc/rc-pic-001.jpg
source: http://www.iscec.com/images/rc/rc-pic-001.jpg

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Studio Gang Architects, unbuilt proposal for the Chicago Visitor Center. The building's curtain is made up of photovoltaic cells:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y15...rdier/b3_1.jpg
http://www.studiogang.net/site/projects_b3.htm

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y15...rdier/b3_2.jpg
http://www.studiogang.net/site/projects_b3.htm


From the Studio/Gang website: The City of Chicago wanted to transform the façade of an existing building into the new Chicago Visitor Center. Our façade is a wind sculpture; a shimmer of glass ‘Solar Sequins’ responding to the beauty of wind patterns.The design incorporates photovoltaic cells laminated between layers of glass that are choreographed to respond to breezes. Generating enough clean and free energy to offset 51 tons of carbon dioxide entering the atmosphere, the clean energy is channeled to power amenities for the building. The sequins yield 48,000 kwatts per year.....

http://www.studiogang.net/site/projects_b3.htm

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A new "twist" ;) on the Ferris Wheel concept - the Shanghai Kiss (honest!) - courtesy of Alsop & Arup - looked like great fun; alas, I hear that the developer has nixed the project.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y15...ghaikiss-1.jpg
http://www.interactivearchitecture.o...anghai’.html

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y15...47_385kiss.jpg
http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com...w&upload_id=47

Something like this would be a blast on Chicago's Navy Pier.