^ Why had I not heard of the high line before now? What a fantastic project! :hyper:

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Keep em coming
I mightn't agree with all your choices but they're all interesting, I visit the thread every day :)

This proposal will be a great asset to the Moscow City development trend! It's beyond marvelous! :tup: for Wedding Palace

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And here is Moscow City after completion!

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And how could I forget Dubai's The Cube! :yes:

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neil denari project is very nice, an inverted pyramid to find a space in narrow base side at bridge, but not pushing bridge away, very clean as well.
The Moscow one, oh man this DNA is getting great in the wonderful area.
The Cube Dubai,,, a modern version what Babylon suspend gardens could not make so wonderful... :)

Adrian, I'm a bit new here, but I saw a post in this thread where you are denouncing Ghery and talking about how much you love Koolhas.

Might I ask what school you're a student at, or were at?

If you are still in school, please let me know when you make it into some classes that talk about constructibility.

While I am personally not a fan of Ghery, I have a tremendous respect for his design process, as he has an amazing grasp on constructibility, designing everything in three dimensions so that he knows how it will have to be put together and with what materials.

Koolhas on the other hand, is a joke. He initially wanted the tube around the CTA tracks at IIT to be solid stainless steel, and couldn't possibly understand why whis would be a bad idea. No thought to the cost, no thought to the structure, no thought to the notion of the fact that the DC current could arc to the steel, down through to the brushed stainless steel floor, and kill everyone inside the building. He also thought it was a good idea to enclose that tube with no thought to the absolute cannon blast of sound that would create in either direction. For no particular reason he also thought it would be a good idea to put a bunch of exterior grade plywood on a roof that is not accessible to anyone, for decoration, without understanding the amount of roof penetrations it would create, or why screwing a bunch of plywood through the roofing membrane would make it leak. Then he wanted to clad the exterior fascia with Formica, which in case you don't know, is just a brand of plastic laminate over particle board used for cheap countertops. He thought this would be weather tight. No regard for the way the glue would react to heat from the sun or freeze/thaw.

I attended IIT during that monstrosity's construction. Jahn's proposal was perfect for the site, though Eisenman's was my personal favorite, and nobody but a few morons high up in the school liked Koolhas' abortion, and only for the fact it had the tube to "best incorporate the CTA." To top everything off, after the consulting contractors value engineered his designs to a reasonable level of constructibility, holding his hand like a little baby taking its first steps, the building was STILL double the school's budget and McCormick and the Tribune Co. had to bail the school out with the rest of the money.

You cannot imagine how happy I was to watch Jahn's State Street Village go up across the street as a testament to how a purposeful building can still be gorgeous. He even incorporated the CTA line better than Koolhas could have dreamed of. That building, despite the actual apartments inside, in my personal opinion of comfort, being of gulag quality, was a triumph for the school and the ultimate thumb of the nose to Koolhas.

I hope you can understand that I am trying to point out to you that architecture must be so much more than just piling shapes together.

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Yes, it must. An architect should know how every single piece of his building is constructed, and every single piece of his building should serve a purpose. When a man can slap a tube on top of a box, which is all his initial model was, and have the building actually be constructed in spite of his lack of knowledge as to how things are actually physically put together, it sets the wrong precedent for how architecture is supposed to be practiced. Architecture is in a sad state due to the fact that the precedent has become that architects are now supposed to be artists, and not give a damn about how the building is built, because that's somebody else's job.

Architecture is supposed to be the highest combination of science and art. Architects are supposed to be the most valuable person to a building in that they are supposed to know how the building is built, and to design something with some artistic merit based on their understanding of the method of how it is built and how it should function. Architects like Koolhaas certainly deserve respect for being good at delivering pretty sketches and high artistic concepts, but at the same time certainly deserve the ridicule of people like me who understand that they don't actually know what they're doing when it comes down to the details.

Did I say he had no clue about structures? No. He's obviously got a clue about the concept of structures and how to design to the limits of what is structurally possible. I explained how he doesn't think beyond the shapes and how the building has to work as a whole mechanism. Every example I cited, I have discussed in depth with the contractors who had to deal with him. He's not Jahn where he knows what he's doing and insists on the most expensive option, he's a guy who really doesn't actually know.

I didn't say I thought Gehry was a good architect. I'm not sure I really like anything he's ever built. But for as complex as his structures are, I know for a fact he designs them to the level of detail necessary for them to be built more easily by the contractors, rather than like Koolhaas, who couldn't care less how his boxes are put together.

I would argue the last point there all day. Have you been inside the campus center at IIT? Unless you spend the majority of your time in there, you can't find your way around in that place without a map, and I defy to you explain to me how that building is in any way anything but a spectacular failure. Overbudget, an eyesore, and completely non-functional. Mies would slit his own throat and die a second time if he ever saw his likeness on the glass on that pile of crap.

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The aim of this competition was to remodel an existing building and to extend it to accommodate the headquarters of the ruling board for guarantee of origin //'Ribera del Duero//
The project is simply founded as a unigue interpretation of the reality of its place. It aspire to offer a space of difference where the things that compose its proximinty, the city, the landscape, the atmostphere, are accommodated and which, as a mirror, reflects them.
The place has been carved by the city and the landscape, and the project, simply interprets this condition, outlining the difference that brings us closer to an understanding.
In this way, the building could be understood as a single expression of its surroundings, as an element of transition between the urban landscape, where it is inserted, and the natural landscape which it confronts. The building moves in between those double tension it moves as it follows, adapts and finds an architectonic form for the meanings that synthesize the city and the landscape.
The project becomes a material conclusion of the existing volume, suggesting the need of a conclusive element that expresses the temporary disconnection of the new volume. This new element forms a dependent one, follows the lines of the old element and declares the impossibility of an authentic redefinition of its historic appearance.

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SINGAPORE RESIDENTIAL COMPLEX
oma/koolhaas

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a modern version of a modernist idea
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MOOSE
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This would be perfect for the South Loop. I'm thinking the parcel of land north of River City. :yes:

^ Reminds me of an off-angle Optima at Old Orchard. OMA sure is liking these stacked volumes of late. Breaks up the mass?

The Moose is most excellent. Near-perfect example of a "duck" to OMA's decorated sheds.

And Veiga's Rock rocks.

Funny how people will flee from an argument when they are out-facted. :tup:

A difference of opinion, to be sure. I don't disagree with you that Koolhaas is a good artist and pushes boundaries with his buildings. I do like a lot of his concepts. He just lost a LOT of respect from me with the MTCC, or the BUTT (Building Under The Tube) as we called it, and the knowledge that he basically refused to design something within budget, and the further knowledge that he seems to be somewhat retarded when it comes to building materials.

That would've been fucking awesome. Oh man...

^ But what'd happen to the fly balls? lol

Pure Awesomeness right there in CHicago.

I completely agree with your points about Gehry, an architect who doesn't design things to be functional isn't an architect at all, but a sculptor. Architecture is not just making cool looking things, its making things that are cool looking, but can be used.

It reminds me of Weese's Humanities building in Madison, it looks fucking sweet, but if you ever go inside its completely shitty because it takes like 10 minutes to get anywhere in there assuming you can find your way around inside in the first place.

Hence the teardown...

^^^ Its not being torn down yet, there is a group of people trying to save it. I don't know how they plan to fix it, but if they can't fix the interior it needs to be destroyed...

Koolhass did an awesome library here in Seattle, although the interior is a neverending nightmare.

However, I wish we could return to functional elegance, like the Tower Life building in San Antonio, the Woolworth Building, Cashy in Denver, or the WaMu Tower in Seattle. Straightforward design with all the money put into going vertical rather than at any obtuse angle you can fit onto a load-bearing bolt.

The binned Transbay tower is the one I miss the most. I hate crap like the Tour Schmoo in Paris.

Not so much fun in the rain, so... where a raincoat when needed. :) The world NEEDS a ballpark like this. I'd go eventhough I don't care about baseball at all.

The problem with that would be that ever home run would result in a broken window or a car or pedestrian being hit at street level unless they put up a net of some sort.

They could put a net around it and as for rain, well it's rain...you get it at most ballparks regardless.

haha, I just noticed there is no outfield wall, so if a player was going for the ball, he'd fall right over the edge and plummet to his death. Nice.

http://www.studiogang.net/site/images/projects/d3_2.jpg

What about wind? gets pretty gusty at 30 stories, you'd need to retrain players to compensate for added wind and sudden directional changes, not to mention the effect of all the other buildings on wind direction. a 5mph gust on the street can get to 20+ on the 30th floor.

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neil denari

In order to simultaneously produce a strong expression and a reasonably economical building, we have designed a simple steel frame building with an aluminum and glass storefront system that sits on the floor slabs while the screen system of superformed aluminum panels is attached to a simple back up frame in front of the exposed slab edges. The plan is shaped in such a way as to form a series of ascending stairs along the canal side of the building.

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^I like it, I wonder how it will look in person?

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I'm in love... The irregular fenestration is pure art.

This design appears to be very similar to the Shanghai Park Hotel (albeit, a bit more compacted and squat) (1934):

http://hua.umf.maine.edu/China/image..._parkHotel.jpg

http://www.willysthomas.net/ParkHotelShanghai.jpg

A cheese or salad Gratter, but ok

If rational means destroying the urban environment and wasting money on ridiculous cantilevering.

There are so many "progressive" architects today that seem to think that punching different shaped holes in a building is the best way to be original and abstract. If that's where architecture is headed, someone please shoot me now.

Rational was different in 1925 and today. The buildings themselves, in terms of facade and concept are very rational. The form...not so much imo.

Nothing extraordinary (and of course nothing over 100 meters, god forbid), but these are my favourite ("highrise") proposals for Malmö/Copenhagen at the moment.


Hyllie Hotel, Malmö

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*Wingårdh Arkitekter







Örestad Downtown (not final design), Copenhagen

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*Daniel Libeskind







Copenhagen Towers II, Copenhagen

http://www.23hq.com/knilaus/photo/2558952/original

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*Foster & Partners







Bella Center Hotel, Copenhagen

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*3xNielsen

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That reminds me....


One of my favourite proposals for Milwaukee, which has lamentably sat idly for the past year and a half or so, Lake Pointe Tower:

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Oh god, look at this layout, I would feel so claustrophobic in there with all those narrowing passageways in every direction and the sharp angled corners in the rooms that would not only make the space feel smaller but render that space completely useless. I hate buildings that try and be creative by making no sense at all...

And what is that in the top-leftish corner? Is that just a piece of open space that the architects had no idea how to use?

That kind of space is what architects designate for "Mechanical Space"

That really goes with the museum. They're both so 'sail' like.

I know what mech space is. However, I don't seen much of a need for mech space in an about 3 story 4000 sqft building... Besides, mech space is usually accessible in some way, i.e. has a door to get inside through. I think that space is just called poor design...

My bad...heavy sarcasm intended!

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