Cross-border cultural/economic regions
Hello everybody! I'm new to the forum and figured I would start off by creating this thread. I was wondering what would be some heavily integrated cultural and economic regions between Canada and the United States. Obviously, the Great Plains could be considered a "broad cultural area", but someone living in Edmonton will likely have little familiarity with someone living in Oklahoma City other than the significant presence of agriculture.
The only ones that come to mind are the Great Lakes Basin, Red River Valley, and New England/Maritimes. Any others? |
Upstate New York... Lots of integration with Montreal and Ottawa including shopping and air travel options. Plattsburg and Ogdensburg airports target Montreal and Ottawa respectively. Plattsburg even bills itself as 'Montreal's US airport' and has French as a language option on their website. Loads of NY plates in both cities during weekends.
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A no brainer would be the PNW/Cascadia.
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The cross border ties in the Red River Valley are pretty marginal... I mean, the geography is the same, but culturally there are significant differences and even economically I don't think many businesses straddle both sides. "Heavily integrated" would be overstating it, IMO.
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New England and the Maritimes is also more of a historical than present-day phenomenon. There isn't much right around the border; the areas where most people live in both of those regions are several hours apart. It's not particularly easy to move back and forth anymore. I'm guessing you'd find more people in the Maritimes who've been to Toronto, Calgary, or maybe Vancouver than have been to Boston, even though Boston is the closest of those cities.
A lot of tourists in the Maritimes are Americans but, well, there are a lot of Americans. I'm not sure the Maritimes are an unusually popular destination for them. |
Perhaps "heavily integrated" was to far to describe cross border areas, unless its urban areas like the Vancouver-Seattle corridor or Detroit-Windsor. I guess historical perspectives should be taken into account. This is why I included the Red River Valley, from the Selkirk grant to the many, many floods shared between both countries in this region over the years.
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Every Canadian region with the American one directly south of it. Plus every Canadian region with whichever affiliate it's American TV networks broadcast, though that is often one-sided.
For us, historically, with New England and the Maritimes. Massachusetts was our most notable North American population movement connection. PEI was our most notable North American economic connection (they advertised here as the bread basket of Newfoundland). Straight south of us, Bermuda, used to be administered with us. Our Church of England shared the same Diocese for a while, etc. But no real connection survives. However, with the Caribbean their ethnic cuisine often still uses Newfoundland's salt cod and, likewise, we're strongly associated with their dark rum (Screech). An enduring trade memory. |
This thread is a bit like this one : http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=226656
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edit: Esquire is right, the thickening border is a problem. That is why every time the US talks about agricultural issues, Canadian Ag gets very nervous. |
By far the most heavily integrated economically (and probably culturally too) is SW Ont and SE Mich. Just taking into account the trade going back and forth each day in the form of automotive parts is probably more than all of the other regions combined.
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Maybe a silly point but Canad Inns has locations in Manitoba (Winnipeg, Brandon and Portage la Prairie) as well as one in Grand Forks (a lot of Manitobans travel to Grand Forks for shopping).
Not sure if Canad Inns locations could be a weak point for local integration, but I guess one could say that everywhere that has a Fairmont is within Toronto's cultural sphere (joke). |
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I will concur with Vanriderfan re: agriculture. I do recall from previous work experiences that there was a fair bit of cross border ag activity within the region, but at the same time it didn't strike me as a profoundly strong linkage. |
The Vancouver - Seattle Area is pretty close in distance as this photo shows
http://i.imgur.com/e3SXesM.jpg I remember when Futureshop expanded into the states they had a few stores in the seattle area and bellingham. A family friend of ours worked as a regional manager for FutureShop and lived here in Vancouver area with his territory being WA State. My roommate worked for a Magazine that was aimed at Canadians in the Vancouver area but often worked out of the office in Lynden WA just across the border from Aldergrove. 3 women I used to work with all owned property at the same place at Mt Baker in WA state, they said it was majority of Canadian owners who had a place there. at least 3 women I worked with at an old job dated and married guys from Seattle, they had lived both sides of the border and ended up settling in Canada. So cross border relationships are pretty common here. There are a few businesses you will often see listing their locations as Abbotsford, Surrey, Bellingham. There are some radio stations based out of WA state whose main audience is Canadians so all the ads are for Canadian businesses. Same with KVOS or MeTV, its home is in bellingham but its advertising market is Vancouver and Seattle. They have an office located here in Vancouver as well. Before it became MeTV they used to do some shows that were shot here in Vancouver, like on the street events going on type of show. They still do segments here in commercial breaks. |
One could also look at which areas have Tim Hortons' locations -- Michigan and WNY mostly. Though I do recall a Tim's in northern Ohio too. In all cases, these areas are right outside Southern Ontario...
I agree that there's a major interconnection for auto parts in ON and MI. Probably the biggest of all, dwarfing anything agricultural. |
I'm curious esquire, would you say that Winnipeg would have more in common with Regina (for example) as opposed to Grand Forks or Fargo?
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