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Cyro Oct 26, 2015 2:39 PM

West Broadway Area | Winnipeg | Development
 
All purpose development/informational thread for the area in question.

http://westbroadwaybiz.com/wp-conten...ay-Biz-Map.jpg
Source

>>> PDF WEST BROADWAY BIZ MASTER PLAN

esquire Oct 26, 2015 2:46 PM

^ Great idea for a thread. This area has changed so much over the past 10 years, but mostly with smaller, under the radar new builds and renovations that kind of get lost in the shuffle. Centralizing them here will provide us with a clear indication of the full scope of activity in the area.

For what it's worth I think the WB area holds a tremendous amount of potential... continued development and improvement will not only help to create a thriving urban neighbourhood, but it will yield positive spinoffs for downtown too.

Cyro Oct 26, 2015 2:56 PM

With the overlap between the Osborne Village area and the resurgence of this particular neighborhood, and it's unique urban identity, ie: Corydon Ave, Osborne Village, I believe it's time has finally come.

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I believe this particular proposal was already covered, 85-109 Maryland/Westminister.
4 Story, 44 residential Units, 44+- parking stalls, some covered, 5,6K sq. ft commercial at grade, 6 K sq. ft.of commercial space on 2nd floor. 3rd floor terrace over 2nd floor commercial space.

Proposal Applicant: 710 Westminster Ltd. – Leon Reimer
Architect on Record: Unit7 Architecture

Looking for a render but it is currently in cue before CC for rezoning.

EDIT: ^ I agree Esquire, the area holds a great deal of potential, it used to be quite the adventure in the early days, I really am enjoying it's renaissance so far.

Cyro Oct 26, 2015 4:08 PM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bZR-5WO29-...rbrook+Inn.jpg
exploringourroutes.blogspot.com


Necessary evil? The Sherbrook Inn + pawn shop + Vendor. License to print money?

esquire Oct 26, 2015 6:51 PM

Today's Murray M column (beware WFP paywall) has a rundown of three projects along Maryland, including a rendering of the one slated for the SE corner of Maryland and Westminster:

http://media.winnipegfreepress.com/images/7270167.jpg

emeraldeyes Oct 26, 2015 7:52 PM

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...es1969/1_1.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...es1969/2_1.jpg

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...es1969/3_1.jpg

emeraldeyes Oct 26, 2015 7:57 PM

Apparently Stella's is taking advantage of the recent fire at the Sherbrook location and is going to be reopening with an expansion.

buzzg Oct 26, 2015 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by emeraldeyes (Post 7212167)
Apparently Stella's is taking advantage of the recent fire at the Sherbrook location and is going to be reopening with an expansion.

Connecting the two buildings or what?

Urban recluse Oct 27, 2015 3:10 AM

Great news; let's hope for more of this. A redeveloped Sherbrook Inn would be nice.

emeraldeyes Oct 27, 2015 1:29 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzg (Post 7212360)
Connecting the two buildings or what?

Apologies I don't have the details.
I kind of hope that's not the case though as I really like that little passageway.

drew Oct 27, 2015 2:05 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzg (Post 7212360)
Connecting the two buildings or what?

The plan according to the sign on the door is to be open again in 3 months or so.

Given that time frame - I think the "expansion" will just be gaining more efficiency in the existing interior space - rather than a structural addition.

buzzg Oct 27, 2015 3:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drew (Post 7213041)
The plan according to the sign on the door is to be open again in 3 months or so.

Given that time frame - I think the "expansion" will just be gaining more efficiency in the existing interior space - rather than a structural addition.

Yeah I can't really see where they could expand other than that pathway. Only other thing could maybe be the upstairs. Their regional offices are on the second floor, and that's their main kitchen so maybe just behind the scenes stuff.

Cyro Oct 29, 2015 4:45 PM


Yes this is the one I was looking for. This corner is somewhat of a gateway or hub leading to the area from the south and for residents in the Westminister area. + 12K sq. ft. of CRU's will be a god send to this area. Looks like a functional design as well.

Cyro Oct 29, 2015 5:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esquire (Post 7212075)
Today's Murray M column (beware WFP paywall) has a rundown of three projects along Maryland, including a rendering of the one slated for the SE corner of Maryland and Westminster:

Thanks for the source article, (let my free account lapse), never re upped and paid for the info they provide. It's nice they decided to cover the area, maybe they do read SSP..;)

Urban recluse Oct 31, 2015 7:11 PM

Perhaps that tiny white building at Maryland and Sara will be next for redevelopment.

trueviking Nov 1, 2015 6:01 AM

That building is home to an architecture firm.

Urban recluse Nov 1, 2015 4:09 PM

Really? It is nondescript, and looks vacant.

buzzg Nov 2, 2015 5:58 PM

The housing project on Sherbrook is going up so fast, it's crazy. I'd love to see more of that on that street. I'd also love to see the gardens relocated somewhere else nearby... it's a prime lot and it also really just looks like a mess on a good day haha.

Urban recluse Nov 2, 2015 6:33 PM

That is true. A streetscape consisting of old homes which have been converted to stores and restaurants, brick walk-up apartment blocks as well as modern infills are dynamic.

Echoing the call for the Sherbrook Inn to be redeveloped, I do know the owner has been approached by developers: it remains unclear to me if the asking price was too high, or he simply does not want to sell. In any event, I know the Tallest Poppy plans on opening a patio in the summer, as well as exterior improvements.

cslusarc Nov 2, 2015 11:56 PM

I didn't know that the Legislature, Memorial Park and Vimy Ridge Park were considered to be park of West Broadway, did you?

buzzg Nov 3, 2015 6:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cslusarc (Post 7220482)
I didn't know that the Legislature, Memorial Park and Vimy Ridge Park were considered to be park of West Broadway, did you?

I guess only on paper, haha, cuz even the BIZ says it ends at Osborne & Broadway

Cyro Nov 3, 2015 7:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cslusarc (Post 7220482)
I didn't know that the Legislature, Memorial Park and Vimy Ridge Park were considered to be park of West Broadway, did you?

I believe this was already answered above but just to be sure...

Your reference is to the MAP provided by the West Broadway Biz?

http://westbroadwaybiz.com/wp-conten...ay-Biz-Map.jpg
Source: http://westbroadwaybiz.com/wp-conten...ay-Biz-Map.jpg

If so, the added locations you referenced are their for perspective, to give viewers a general idea of the area being discussed found below (PDF) and their vision for the future. Think Pink.

http://westbroadwaybiz.com/wp-conten...ation-copy.pdf

buzzg Nov 4, 2015 1:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyro (Post 7221498)
I believe this was already answered above but just to be sure...

Your reference is to the MAP provided by the West Broadway Biz?

http://westbroadwaybiz.com/wp-conten...ay-Biz-Map.jpg
Source: http://westbroadwaybiz.com/wp-conten...ay-Biz-Map.jpg

If so, the added locations you referenced are their for perspective, to give viewers a general idea of the area being discussed found below (PDF) and their vision for the future. Think Pink.

http://westbroadwaybiz.com/wp-conten...ation-copy.pdf

Yeah, the way they talk in all their literature is about Broadway @ Osborne being the gateway to the BIZ (where all the signage is). Hopefully when that United Way sign on GWL comes down they replace it with a WB BIZ banner like in the original plans. I also hope they actually decorate the Misericordia skywalk and put up a mural like in those plans.

drew Nov 6, 2015 5:19 PM

They have started driving piles at 100 Maryland, where the previous house was literally just taken to the dump.

Nice to see that block of Maryland bookended with new developments, which are now both under construction.

Provided the large development on Westminster goes forward, that corner at Westminster and Maryland is going to have a much different look in a couple years.

esquire Nov 6, 2015 5:23 PM

^ Great news!

Urban recluse Nov 6, 2015 5:32 PM

Indeed. Until then, who knows what other projects may surface.

buzzg Nov 12, 2015 8:18 PM

Anyone seen the MH building going up on Sherbrook lately? The north side is completely cinderblocked with not one window on it. It looks awful... do they know about some plans for the architecture building lot next door that we don't know? It's baffling.

drew Nov 12, 2015 8:49 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzg (Post 7233033)
Anyone seen the MH building going up on Sherbrook lately? The north side is completely cinderblocked with not one window on it. It looks awful... do they know about some plans for the architecture building lot next door that we don't know? It's baffling.

Have to do that. It's likely built right up to the property line. Has to be non-combustible and a 2hr fire rating (I think). And no windows allowed.

People drive towards the nice face of the building anyway.

drew Nov 13, 2015 4:20 PM

The pre-cast pile installation has stopped at 100 Maryland for a few days now. And the job seems about 2/3 done.

I wonder if someone *forgot* to get a permit...

Cyro Dec 18, 2015 7:42 PM

Con't from Winnipeg Construction:


Quote:

Originally Posted by esquire (Post 7274786)
Sounds a little pie in the sky to me, but All Saints United Church at Broadway and Osborne is hoping to develop its land which occupies a prime site opposite the Legislature

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/art...362561681.html

Even if they can get it off the ground, I doubt $15 million would buy them much these days...

Gotta have faith..;).. I do agree though, the $15M/est. for an 8 storey office/commercial structure seems a tad bit low for what they've envisioned.

But in the grand scheme of design, this sort of development would be a welcome addition to the Boradway Biz's master plan.

..Added to West Broadway Area | Winnipeg | Development as well..

Cyro Dec 20, 2015 11:25 PM

https://maryloudriedger2.files.wordp...nipegasac1.jpg
https://maryloudriedger2.wordpress.c...saints-church/

Google Satellite Location

I was curious about the surrounding location, and history of the Church in general.

Low income-housing, community related services is another option for the proposal, with funding, could actually make it more feasible and likely for the parish to raise the required capital in addition to donations?

Cyro Mar 7, 2016 5:45 PM

http://ranjjan.com/wp-content/upload...ng-300x179.jpg
http://ranjjan.com/ranjjan-developme...ryland-condos/

Location..http://54maryland.ca/location/

54 Moving along..It's going to be a nice little addition when complete..

Cyro Mar 7, 2016 5:50 PM

Same developer, this one is at about the same stage of construction..

The Flats on Westminster

http://ranjjan.com/wp-content/upload...ng-300x171.jpg

Urban recluse Mar 7, 2016 6:04 PM

I think these two projects are great. I would like to see a few taller developments along Sherbrook, with infills such as these all over the area.

crocket Mar 7, 2016 6:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban recluse (Post 7361872)
I think these two projects are great. I would like to see a few taller developments along Sherbrook, with infills such as these all over the area.

Agreed, love that area. Lived there in the early 2000's.

Urban recluse Mar 7, 2016 6:58 PM

So much character tucked away along Langside, Furby etc with charming historic brick walk-ups. A few too many derelict homes still dot the area, and many streets and sidewalks need redoing, but it is a wonderful neighborhood with great potential.

Cyro Mar 8, 2016 5:21 PM

^ I here what your saying, I've been into many the buildings in the area you speak of for various reasons. The potential is there, but the area in general still has the stigma and social problems from the past. Slowly but steadily we can hope to see change.

bomberjet Mar 8, 2016 5:29 PM

I was at the airport in Calgary last week and got talking with the lady next to me. She's originally from Winnipeg and couldn't understand how anyone would want to live in downtown Winnipeg. She was probably in her 60's, but for sure 50's. She said it's been so long since downtown was bustling, she doesn't ever see it working. I said it'll take time for people to bring downtown back to it's glory.

that's just it. its going to take just as much time to bring it back, as it did to decline. Generations people, not just a few years. Same goes for West Broadway, or any area. Slowly but surely, it will change one way or another.

Urban recluse Mar 8, 2016 5:30 PM

Agreed. As with other areas in need of development, the key is to attract more younger professionals to the city, as well as retaining others. Renewal can only be fueled by demand. I still argue the Sherbrook Inn needs to be redeveloped sooner than later.

esquire Mar 8, 2016 5:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bomberjet (Post 7363343)
I was at the airport in Calgary last week and got talking with the lady next to me. She's originally from Winnipeg and couldn't understand how anyone would want to live in downtown Winnipeg. She was probably in her 60's, but for sure 50's. She said it's been so long since downtown was bustling, she doesn't ever see it working. I said it'll take time for people to bring downtown back to it's glory.

that's just it. its going to take just as much time to bring it back, as it did to decline. Generations people, not just a few years. Same goes for West Broadway, or any area. Slowly but surely, it will change one way or another.

I think the baby boomers are by and large a total writeoff when it comes to their perceptions about downtown. They're old enough to remember the "glory days" and all they can see is how far things have fallen since Portage Avenue was the place to go for shopping, movies, dining, etc. They are completely soured on downtown... among my coworkers, it's that cohort that tends to avoid downtown as much as they possibly can, and zips back out to Lorette, Charleswood or West St. Paul as fast as they can after work.

Gen Xers are a bit warmer to downtown, but it's really the millennials that have a new attitude and are receptive to downtown living. Whereas the Gen Xers spent their free time in the suburbs, going to the mall, etc., millennials seem more likely to be hanging out in urban settings, so things are moving in the right direction. At least that's my impression.

bomberjet Mar 8, 2016 6:25 PM

Totally agree esquire.

TimeFadesAway Mar 8, 2016 6:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esquire (Post 7363367)
I think the baby boomers are by and large a total writeoff when it comes to their perceptions about downtown.

It's a shame, really. My parents and my in-laws all live in our building (yes, ha ha). And they all absolutely love living downtown. My father-in-law (a Croatian immigrant) walks to the Millennium Library daily to sit and read. My mom, one of the more negative people I've come across in my life, raves about living downtown to anyone who will listen.

Living downtown is perhaps as, if not more, suitable for a retired baby boomer than anyone else. It's a shame most are too close minded to consider it.

buzzg Mar 8, 2016 8:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban recluse (Post 7363344)
Agreed. As with other areas in need of development, the key is to attract more younger professionals to the city, as well as retaining others. Renewal can only be fueled by demand. I still argue the Sherbrook Inn needs to be redeveloped sooner than later.

The fact that in Manitoba you can now get 60% of your tuition back for staying is (anecdotally) making a huge difference. In comparing my siblings' era (80s babies) who almost all left to Toronto, Vancouver, etc after university, it seems the 90s babies are now way more inclined to stay, and I think the tuition refund is a huge incentive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by esquire (Post 7363367)
I think the baby boomers are by and large a total writeoff when it comes to their perceptions about downtown. They're old enough to remember the "glory days" and all they can see is how far things have fallen since Portage Avenue was the place to go for shopping, movies, dining, etc. They are completely soured on downtown... among my coworkers, it's that cohort that tends to avoid downtown as much as they possibly can, and zips back out to Lorette, Charleswood or West St. Paul as fast as they can after work.

While I think that is probably true for some, there's a lot that are reconsidering. I never thought my parents would go downtown (they said that) and now they're saying when they sell the house in a few years they want an apartment either downtown or in the Village. Their view on downtown has shifted dramatically in the last 2-3 years. And a lot of their friends see it the same way. They don't want to have 2 cars, and would rather be able to walk for what they need. My guess is that maybe the boomers who live in the more established, central burbs (river heights, west end, st. b, riverview, etc.) are more incline to move downtown because they're used to being close to it, while out in the newer burbs people are less inclined to move more central.

Urban recluse Mar 8, 2016 8:14 PM

One housing option not being developed, which I see to the contrary in other cities, are town homes. For people who want at the very least a small yard, not a condo, there are no options. I would like to see brownstone-like units built around Waterfront for starters.

Great project in Omaha:

http://omahaurbanliving360.com/downt...-at-soma-omaha

buzzg Mar 8, 2016 8:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban recluse (Post 7363624)
One housing option not being developed, which I see to the contrary in other cities, are town homes. For people who want at the very least a small yard, not a condo, there are no options. I would like to see brownstone-like units built around Waterfront for starters.

Yeah, Heritage Landing (300 Assiniboine) are the only ones, and they were $500k+ IIRC.

bomberjet Mar 8, 2016 8:50 PM

^You might be thinking dCondo Buzz. 300 ass are rental apartments. Or is the townhouse portion for sale?

TimeFadesAway Mar 8, 2016 9:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban recluse (Post 7363624)
One housing option not being developed, which I see to the contrary in other cities, are town homes. For people who want at the very least a small yard, not a condo, there are no options. I would like to see brownstone-like units built around Waterfront for starters.

We used to have them throughout downtown, even in the Waterfront area (while it was still a railway line). The place depicted in the link below was at the NE corner of James and Louise. It was demolished when Lilly was extended south to James for access to the new Disraeli Freeway at the end of the '50s/early '60s.

https://digital.library.yorku.ca/yul...-rupert-avenue

drew Mar 8, 2016 9:29 PM

^ James and Lily?

Not sure where Louise Street is (or was)?

Urban recluse Mar 8, 2016 9:33 PM

Absolutely beautiful.

TimeFadesAway Mar 8, 2016 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by drew (Post 7363741)
^ James and Lily?

Not sure where Louise Street is (or was)?

Louise originally ran North from Market to Rupert and is gone now (because of the Centennial Project). This row housing was removed in the late '50s when the original access to Disraeli was created. In order to access the 'freeway' from northbound Main, you would turn right (east) onto James (now Steinkopf Gardens). Then you would turn left (north) onto Lily (which had been extended south from where it used to end at Pacific). The Lily extension basically goes through where the western half of this building stood.

The whole Disraeli access was re-engineered to accommodate the Centennial Project in the late '60s. Louise was eliminated, and Lily was further extended south to Market.

Off topic and kinda boring, I know!


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