They are going to have to change that homicide graph for metropolitans this year. Winnipeg, Edomonton, and Halifax are over 5/100 000.

^ but then they would have to include 2010, when Winnipeg had far fewer murders than typical...

Those graphs only show 2009.

I don't think such a dramatic drop from last year could be attributed entirely to gentrification. That would be like saying "Well the murder rate is way down compared to last year, must be because Rob Ford chased away all the poor people!"

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

He's talking about places like Rexdale and Scarberia. Places many downtowners are not even aware of, but which most normal people would know as "the inner suburban belt". Looking at the CBC map, I'm very happy to see North Scarberia and my home borough of North York doing so well compared to the rest of the city. There's got to be at least 500,000 people in that area, with only 4 murders.

I'm well aware of where they are as are most Torontonians. The murder count I posted included all of that. As for Gentrification not being the only factor for a low rate this year, I agree but it is the reason why for such a large city we have one of the safest downtown's.

I live in North York (Village at York) and back on July 26th, I was the victim of a home invasion robbery at gunpoint. The men literally broke into my room while I was sleeping like a baby and put a gun to my head and started demanding drugs. The past 119 days and the remaining days in my life have been a gift to me from God.

Luckily I wasn't murdered (obviously), I replaced all the stuff they stole, and the incident was far enough in the past that it doesn't bother me too much anymore.

Just wanted to say that as sort of an ironic response to the "low" murder numbers in North York this year. Almost did me a fat lot of good.

Four years ago, my uncle died of an assault like this, but we didn't get to say goodbye. Hopefully they get justice for what happened.

This is Thunder Bay's third homicide of 2011, and this was the second member of Webequie First Nation to die in a tragedy in Thunder Bay this year. The first was 15-year-old Jordan Wabasse, who was the 8th native youth to be found dead in a river here since 2000.

I have heard a number of Indians/First Nation people say something similar. One, in particular, I remember saying that our worst enemy now is ourselves and more specifically our Chiefs.

Another First Nation man, whose family is very politically active here in Saskatchewan, said he doesn't feel sorry at all for Attawapiskat. He seemed to think they spent a lot of money on items that weren't necessary and a big chunk of it benefited very few (he was also referring to a Chief) . I also remember him saying once "Aboriginals or whatever the politically correct flavour of the day is." He doesn't mince words ... his childhood was spent in a residential school and when he grew up he joined the Canadian Armed Forces and stayed with them until he hit retirement age.

Ottawa got its 11th, 2nd in a row in Barrhaven.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Wo...031/story.html

Every city (borough?) has its trouble spots. For Scarborough, this would be most of Eglinton Avenue. For North York, it would be pretty much everything west of Dufferin- the map clearly reflects this reality. Unfortunately for you, Village at York is located in the trouble zone. Glad to hear you survived the break-in, how did they manage to do it?

Mike was talking about the suburban areas, and you mentioned that the numbers did not include areas like Mississauga. In turn, I pointed out that he was not referring to non-416 suburbs at all. Still don't know what he was trying to accomplish by pointing out that most murders take place in the concrete jungle of western North York. I still don't think gentrification has anything to do with it, because there are plenty of downtowns with working-class populations that remain functional and safe, and Northern Scarborough isn't exactly wealthy by any standards- yet it appears to be one of the safest places in the city.

http://www.chroniclejournal.com/cont...pgraded-murder

Thunder Bay is now officially at 3.

4 people shot and killed in Surrey over the holiday season.
Homicide investigators must be run off their feet with another murder early Tuesday in Surrey. The young man was found dead less than 10 hours after a man was fatally shot in Langley last night.

The latest victim was killed about 7:30 a.m. in the 9500-block of 125th Street in Surrey.

Last night, a 38-year-old man was gunned down outside a home in the 9100-block of 207 Street in Langley’s Walnut Grove neighbourhood.

The BC Ambulance Service found the man bleeding in the driveway beside a luxury SUV. Attendants pronounced the victim dead at the scene.

The Integrated Homicide Investigation Team is working with other specialized teams to process the scene, canvass the area and speak with neighbors and witnesses.

“As we are in the preliminary stages of this investigation the details are limited. We are attempting to gather evidence with the intention of leading investigators to the person responsible for this homicide,” Sgt. Jennifer Pound said about 2 a.m. Tuesday of the Langley shooting.

I imagine they are doing the same for the latest Surrey case.

People with information about either murder are asked to call the IHIT tip line at 1-877-551-4448.
IHIT is also the agency investigating the Christmas Eve murder of Bradley McPherson, 28, at a rowdy Surrey holiday party, and the shooting death of 27-year-old convenience store employee Alok Gupta about 4 p.m. on Christmas Day near 96 Avenue and 118 Street in Surrey.
The murder rate across the region is down in 2011 despite the rash of recent violence.

Sounds like Calgary is going to end around 12 this year, Edmonton recorded #45 the other day.

Thunder Bay is actually at 4. Somehow I missed one. I can't recall what it might be.

We're at just under 3.5/100,000. Winnipeg, Halifax and Edmonton have higher rates than us, Regina is just below, according to our local news.

Quebec City is heading for 2. Lévis (south shore of Quebec City) is at 0.

2 for the Bas St. Laurent (entire area east of Quebec City to the N.B. border) - it was a double murder - suicide or a double suicide - murder.

1 for Thetford Mines (town of 25,000 south-west of Quebec City) and 1 for the Beauce (area south of Quebec City/Lévis to the Maine border).

Populations - Regions south of Quebec City (2 homicides) 200,000
Lévis 137,000
Quebec City (metro includes Lévis, etc.) 715,000
(The city formed in 2002 is about 550,000)

Shooting in Winnipeg last night, number now at 39.

A man was shot on the 600 block of Selkirk Avenue. He later succumbed to his injuries in the hospital. A woman was also shot but has recovered. Winnipeg adds one more to the list before less than 24 hours before the new year. Lets hope this record will never be achieved or broken in the future. My prayers to the family and friends of the 39 of those who lost their lives this year in Winnipeg. It is a great city, it just needs some love.

Neighbourhood Perspective:

http://www.cbc.ca/manitoba/features/homicides/

North End:
Lord Selkirk Park (Pop. 1 365) = 4
William Whyte (Pop. 6 220) = 2
Dufferin (Pop. 2 090) = 2
St. Johns (Pop. 7 725) = 2
Robertson (Pop. 4 205) = 1
Total (Pop. 21 605) = 11

Downtown:
Portage-Ellice (Pop 1 105) = 3
Central Park (Pop 3 555) = 3
Exchange Dist. (Pop 420) = 3
Total (Pop. 5080) = 9

North Central Winnipeg:
North Point Douglas (Pop. 2 225) = 7
Centennial (Pop. 2 225) = 1
Total (Pop. 4 450) = 8

South Winnipeg:
River-Osbourne (Pop. 4 880) = 2
Fort Richmond (Pop. 11 610) = 1
Munroe East (Pop 8 460) = 1
Niakwa Place (Pop. 2 385) = 1
Riverview (Pop. 4 350) = 1
Total (Pop. 31 685) = 6

West End:
Daniel Mcintyre (Pop. 9 750) = 3
St. Mathews (Pop. 5 575) = 1
Total (Pop. 15 325) = 4

North East Winnipeg:
Beaumont (Pop. 2 360) = 1
Total (Pop. 2 360) = 1

This date:
Winnipeg (Pop. 693 200) = 39
Winnipeg (2010) = 22
Winnipeg (2009) = 29

5.63 / 100 000

So we finish with 35 (1.80/100k) for the year. Par for the course the last few years.

08': 29
09': 31
10': 37

For the whole province, there were 102. 84 last year.

St. John's finishes the year with 4 homicides, a rate of about 2.08 per 100,000. This is compared to 3 in 2010, and what I believe was either 0 or 1 in 2009.

So assuming nothing happened over New Years that hasnt been reported Halifax is ending at 17 this year .

Journal de Montreal is saying a triple murder - suicide in St. Victor in Beauce back in March 2011. I find this debatable at best. The guy and his ex-wife/girlfriend were off their heads on drugs (coke, I believe) when the car crashed (Stéphane Doyon was driving). I would say that he didn't intend to kill himself and given the state he was in how can we judge what he was thinking.