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antinimby Nov 7, 2008 5:36 AM

NEW YORK | 20 Times Square - Port Authority Bus Terminal Tower | 855 FT | 42 FLOORS
 
Turning the Bus Terminal Into a Skyscraper

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...port.large.jpg
From left to right: Proposal by the firm Pelli Clarke Pelli Architects of New Haven; Rogers Stirk Harbour & Partners; Manhattan architectural firm
Kohn Pedersen Fox. (Renderings: Port Authority of New York and New Jersey)



By David W. Dunlap
July 24, 2008, 1:30 pm

The on-again, off-again plans to build an office tower over the Port Authority Bus Terminal took at least a conceptual step forward on Thursday afternoon with the unveiling of three possible designs by three leading architectural firms.

Easily the most striking of the three is a constructivist assemblage by the London firm Rogers Stirk Harbour & Partners, which is also designing Tower 3 at the World Trade Center site. It takes the form of four discrete boxes stacked atop one another and bound together by open diagonal trusswork that echoes the bold X-shaped steel braces girdling the main terminal below.

In complete contrast, for its suavity and lucidity, is a proposal by the Manhattan firm Kohn Pedersen Fox Architects. The central element of this plan is a sheer, glass-clad tower whose surface has an almost icy gleam. In this plan, the X braces would recede in importance behind a screen.

Somewhere between these two is the proposal by Pelli Clarke Pelli Architects of New Haven, whose overall form is monolithic but accentuated with a curtain wall on the north and south sides in a kind of monumental basketweave pattern.

The 40-story, 1.3-million-square-foot office tower is to be developed by a joint venture of Vornado Realty Trust and the Lawrence Ruben Company, which is leasing the air rights over the terminal for 99 years.

Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

antinimby Nov 7, 2008 5:44 AM

I'm more than delighted to say that Roger's proposal was chosen today as the winner of the competition...

Quote:

Rogers wins New York tower contest

http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/i...23-1916502.jpg

THE ARCHITECTS' JOURNAL
Published: 05 November 2008 16:34 Author: Richard Vaughan

Rogers Stirk Harbour + Partners has won a competition to design a 42-storey skyscraper in Manhattan, New York.

The London-based practice saw off strong competitors in the shape of Pelli Clarke Pelli and KPF to bag the commission by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

Rogers' new tower will be located above the northern wing of the Port Authority Bus Terminal in central Manhattan. The winner will be officially announced next week.

The practice's design was the smallest of the three, with Pelli and KPF submitting 47 and 48-storey towers respectively.

It is understood that the Port Authority is optimistic about the project, despite the financial chaos that is hitting New York at present and is hoping to start on site as early as spring 2009.

It will be the second skyscraper Rogers will design in Manhattan, after taking on Tower 3 at the World Trade Centre site, where he will work alongside Foster + Partners and Maki and Associates.

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NYC2ATX Nov 7, 2008 8:37 AM

no F way. :eek:

COOL! :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

God forbid a redesign. *knock on wood*

NYguy Nov 7, 2008 10:20 AM

Quote:

It is understood that the Port Authority is optimistic about the project, despite the financial chaos that is hitting New York at present and is hoping to start on site as early as spring 2009.
Now I'm just waiting for better renderings.

NYguy Nov 7, 2008 10:24 AM

Another look at the losing proposals:

Pelli Clarke Pelli: 945 FT | 47 FL

http://www.archpaper.com/uploads/PCP.jpg


Kohn Pedersen Fox: 790 FT | 48 FL

http://www.observer.com/files/Kohn%2...%20Fox-web.jpg

NYguy Nov 7, 2008 10:26 AM

http://www.observer.com/2008/law-fir...y-bus-terminal

Law Firm Wants One-Third of Port Authority Bus Terminal Tower

by Dana Rubinstein
May 5, 2008

http://www.observer.com/files/imagec...usterminal.jpg


High-octane law firm Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison is in negotiations with
Vornado Realty Trust to occupy space in the skyscraper that the real estate giant plans
to build on top of the Port Authority Bus Terminal.

A source close to the negotiations said that the law firm, which now occupies 400,000 square feet
at 1285 Avenue of the Americas, wants to take 500,000 square feet in the tower, which isn't
expected to be complete until 2012.


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http://www.observer.com/files/Rogers...%20Harbour.jpg

NYguy Nov 7, 2008 10:57 AM

The tower will rise directly accross 8th Avenue from 11 Times Square, currently under construction.
An aerial pic of the terminal from Dan_DC

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3176/...c8d9b6f2_b.jpg


Currently the site is rooftop parking: (north wing)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/88713830/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/88713839/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/88713833/large.jpg


The new tower will fill up this frame: (parking shown is the south wing)

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/88713808/large.jpg

scalziand Nov 7, 2008 1:35 PM

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

samoen313 Nov 7, 2008 3:32 PM

actual renderings of the proposal would be nice. otherwise i'm going to say i don't like it as much as the kpf design. sure it's a little stoic, but it looked like it had massing down well. kpf just do glass and steel well too. no reason not to give it to them. i will commend the judges though on picking the riskier proposal of the designs submitted. but rogers skyscraper work, of late, has been a bit of a head-scratcher. this is also a personal opinion, so i'll leave it at that.

HyperPower Nov 8, 2008 1:08 AM

Please for the love of your own god, are they going to reburbish the bus terminal!?! That place is so crappy, NYC should have a nice bus terminal. Sometimes instead of driving I like to relax and take a Greyhound.

Dac150 Nov 10, 2008 9:04 PM

Wasn't my first choice in design, but it's not a bad looking design at that, plus it's another 800+ footer for the city.

NYC4Life Nov 11, 2008 6:21 PM

New York Observer

Report: Rogers Picked To Design Vornado Tower Atop Port Authority

http://www.observer.com/files/imagec...0-%20web_1.jpg
PANYNJ.
Richard Rogers' design for a Port Authority Bus Terminal tower


by Eliot Brown | November 10, 2008

The London-based Architect’s Journal reports that British starchitect Lord Richard Rogers has won a contest to design the planned tower on top of the Port Authority Bus Terminal.

The tower, which Steve Roth’s Vornado would develop, is a proposed 42-story office building that invokes the crude, exoskeletal design of the bus station below. Should the news be correct, Mr. Rogers beat out designs by Pelli Clark Pelli and KPF.

This summer, when the Port Authority unveiled the three competing designs, the bi-state agency gave Vornado, in a venture with the Lawrence Ruben Company, an extra year—until August 2009—before it is supposed to fully sign off on the deal. The REIT has no tenant signed to take any space in the planned tower, which would go up across the street from a new 1 million-square-foot tower currently under construction, 11 Times Square. That tower is in the later stages of construction and still has no tenants, a worry for developer SJP Properties as the leasing market has slowed to a crawl.


© 2008 Observer Media Group, All Rights Reserved Worldwide.

babybackribs2314 Nov 13, 2008 8:03 AM

Eh, I liked the KPF one best but this one looks interesting too... hopefully it'll be pretty with better renderings.

Since moving here (I'm on 60th) I pass by that area frequently... it'll be so much nicer in 10 years. What with Hudson Yards finally getting built by then (I guess it should be partially or almost finished by then) and this and several other towers going up (I'd assume more will be proposed), should be MUCH nicer. As of now... blech. Especially once you get west of Port Authority...

CGII Nov 15, 2008 1:38 AM

The NYT building almost certainly has the most broad front view of all the skyscrapers in Manhattan; its reign in that field will unfortunately be short, but the tower blocking it looks quite worthy to do it.

WonderlandPark Nov 15, 2008 3:59 AM

People actually like the KPF design, wtf? At least Pelli and Rogers tried. Glad Rogers won out, I just hope that it can go ahead in this economy. The other new Times Square tower kiddy corner is coming on the market 100% empty.

scalziand Nov 15, 2008 4:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WonderlandPark (Post 3913221)
People actually like the KPF design, wtf? At least Pelli and Rogers tried. Glad Rogers won out, I just hope that it can go ahead in this economy. The other new Times Square tower kiddy corner is coming on the market 100% empty.

uh....

Quote:

Law Firm Wants One-Third of Port Authority Bus Terminal Tower
That good enough?

Rise To The Top Nov 15, 2008 4:40 AM

Looks like it has potential. we'll see when a render comes out. I wonder what type of glass they are going to use...

WonderlandPark Nov 15, 2008 5:18 AM

scalziand: "Wants" and "Signed a long-term lease" are two different things, especially now. And since said lease has not been signed in the last 6 months (article is May 5th), it makes you go hmmmm. I am sure this will go forward in some way or another, it is a high profile project involving the PA.

Rico Rommheim Nov 15, 2008 5:25 AM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3176/...c8d9b6f2_b.jpg

Jesus Herbert Christ almighty!

Scruffy Nov 15, 2008 7:13 AM

Slightly disappointed that Pelli lost this one but this is still very cool looking. Much better than the original proposal from years ago

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/...f2820031_o.jpg

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/20070717pabt.jpg


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