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Wigglez Jul 8, 2013 11:05 PM

Winnipeg | Osborne Village & Corydon area
 
I've been thinking about starting a thread for Osborne village for some time now so here it is! I'm starting this because I feel that there is enough development/potential in the area to have its own thread.

http://winnipeg-homes.com/wp-content...04/osborne.jpg
credit: http://winnipeg-homes.com/winnipeg/osborne-village

I don't personally know many of the projects going on in the village these days, so if anyone has any renders/construction pics/proposals to link in here that would be awesome!

I still think the village is the best spot in Winnipeg to enjoy an urban lifestyle (I live/work in the area myself), even though there has been MANY impressive changes to the downtown/exchange areas.

Wigglez Jul 8, 2013 11:06 PM

For a starter question I've been wanting to ask this for a long time now... Is it REALLY true that they plan to widen Osborne street? and in the process tear down some buildings in the heart of the village?

Is this still a real plan?

Reed Solomon Jul 8, 2013 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wigglez (Post 6191340)
For a starter question I've been wanting to ask this for a long time now... Is it REALLY true that they plan to widen Osborne street? and in the process tear down some buildings in the heart of the village?

Is this still a real plan?

First I've heard of it. Surely they could find another way.

Svenn Jul 9, 2013 1:31 AM

I was told by a U of M architecture prof that the city is essentially waiting for the older buildings on Osborne to burn down before doing any street widening. The stripmall that houses TD bank and Little Pizza Heaven was apparently built so far back from the street to allow for the street to be widened should those other buildings burn down.

Wigglez Jul 9, 2013 1:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Svenn (Post 6191522)
I was told by a U of M architecture prof that the city is essentially waiting for the older buildings on Osborne to burn down before doing any street widening. The stripmall that houses TD bank and Little Pizza Heaven was apparently built so far back from the street to allow for the street to be widened should those other buildings burn down.

I'm sure a wide street with suburban strip malls will create a much better urban feel......

While we fight (and fail) to save buildings in the exchange were going to lose amazing buildings to the wreaking ball in Osborne while no ones looking..

chrisallard5454 Jul 9, 2013 2:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Wigglez (Post 6191559)
I'm sure a wide street with suburban strip malls will create a much better urban feel......

While we fight (and fail) to save buildings in the exchange were going to lose amazing buildings to the wreaking ball in Osborne while no ones looking..

If that ever made it past the publics scrutiny, I am afraid that would be the point at which I would lose all faith in this city. At which point I would be looking for a new place to live. That would be too much for me, honestly.

chrisallard5454 Jul 9, 2013 2:08 AM

Does anyone else feel conflicted with the state of things in the city currently? There are so many great things happening in the city, but our city council really holds us back. I just feel like so much potential is lost because of the people that run our city.

h0twired Jul 9, 2013 2:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Svenn (Post 6191522)
I was told by a U of M architecture prof that the city is essentially waiting for the older buildings on Osborne to burn down before doing any street widening. The stripmall that houses TD bank and Little Pizza Heaven was apparently built so far back from the street to allow for the street to be widened should those other buildings burn down.

Sounds like BS to me.

That TD Bank stripmall was most likely set back to just all for a wider more walkable sidewalk.

I would be more concerned if it was built with a parking lot out front.

h0twired Jul 9, 2013 2:18 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisallard5454 (Post 6191578)
Does anyone else feel conflicted with the state of things in the city currently? There are so many great things happening in the city, but our city council really holds us back. I just feel like so much potential is lost because of the people that run our city.

No.

I prefer to take a glass-half full approach at life.

Being depressed, worried and paranoid is no way to live your life.

chrisallard5454 Jul 9, 2013 2:59 AM

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Originally Posted by h0twired (Post 6191599)
No.

I prefer to take a glass-half full approach at life.

Being depressed, worried and paranoid is no way to live your life.

You are happy with how the city is running things then?

Wigglez Jul 9, 2013 3:27 AM

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Originally Posted by h0twired (Post 6191590)
Sounds like BS to me.

That TD Bank stripmall was most likely set back to just all for a wider more walkable sidewalk.

I would be more concerned if it was built with a parking lot out front.

I've heard this rumour a few times that's the reason I asked it. The subway/A&W strip mall is also set fairly far back. Osborne St. is my favourite street in this city and to lose it would destroy my hope for this city.

The Shoppers expansion freaked me out at first, I didn't like the idea of a major corp expanding on what used to be small businesses. But the building is very nice and they've really improved the area! (I'll take some pictures the next time I'm over there) But to tear down buildings to make the street easier for people to rush home to the suburbs from downtown...

If anything I would LOVE to see those damn strip malls ripped down and some beautiful condo/retail buildings (5~ stories) pop up in their place. And while were at it get rid of the gas station and put in a nice tall building there!

Mininari Jul 9, 2013 6:00 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisallard5454 (Post 6191578)
Does anyone else feel conflicted with the state of things in the city currently? There are so many great things happening in the city, but our city council really holds us back. I just feel like so much potential is lost because of the people that run our city.

I couldn't agree with you more. I'm the one advocating for 'house cleaning' at city hall, and its not just the council that needs to go. Osborne Village and Corydon are two gems this city has with a unique urban fabric that surely could be nutured to grow some more, and eventually spill into other neighbourhoods.

steveosnyder Jul 9, 2013 1:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wigglez (Post 6191671)
I've heard this rumour a few times that's the reason I asked it. The subway/A&W strip mall is also set fairly far back. Osborne St. is my favourite street in this city and to lose it would destroy my hope for this city.

The Shoppers expansion freaked me out at first, I didn't like the idea of a major corp expanding on what used to be small businesses. But the building is very nice and they've really improved the area! (I'll take some pictures the next time I'm over there) But to tear down buildings to make the street easier for people to rush home to the suburbs from downtown...

If anything I would LOVE to see those damn strip malls ripped down and some beautiful condo/retail buildings (5~ stories) pop up in their place. And while were at it get rid of the gas station and put in a nice tall building there!

For a change, I will not join the City Council (and administration) bashing and will say something about the area: at the City Centre Community Meeting today at 4:30 they are approving variences/rezoning to 2 lots in the general area. This lot here, along with the single family home to the south will become 1 lot and a 5 story multi-unit building will be put there (I think 37 units total). I recently talked to the City about the proposal and asked if they would allow for a full mixed-use building (commercial on the main floor) since it was someone close to other commercial and they said they never considered it and the architect never asked.

The other is a R1-L lot on Stradbrook; the single family home will be demo'd and a 3 or 4 floor 18 unit place is proposed.

Riverman Jul 9, 2013 1:58 PM

I wouldn't doubt that there are plans to widen Osborne. Both Osborne and Donald are extremely congested during rush hour. Something will have to be done eventually.

Wigglez Jul 9, 2013 2:27 PM

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Originally Posted by steveosnyder (Post 6191944)
For a change, I will not join the City Council (and administration) bashing and will say something about the area: at the City Centre Community Meeting today at 4:30 they are approving variences/rezoning to 2 lots in the general area. This lot here, along with the single family home to the south will become 1 lot and a 5 story multi-unit building will be put there (I think 37 units total). I recently talked to the City about the proposal and asked if they would allow for a full mixed-use building (commercial on the main floor) since it was someone close to other commercial and they said they never considered it and the architect never asked.

The other is a R1-L lot on Stradbrook; the single family home will be demo'd and a 3 or 4 floor 18 unit place is proposed.

That's too bad. I had always hoped that the streets branching off of Osborne would develop some retail of their own to help build the area up. Guess there is still hope for that even if this project doesn't have it!

steveosnyder Jul 9, 2013 2:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Riverman (Post 6191953)
I wouldn't doubt that there are plans to widen Osborne. Both Osborne and Donald are extremely congested during rush hour. Something will have to be done eventually.

What should be done? I don't understand what you mean by "something". Do you think they should widen Osborne? Donald? Both?

I would rather see them widen Donald to Confusion Corner (but the Winter Club and the Squash Club wouldn't allow it), but wouldn't put it past the City to widen Osborne. I would cry if something happened to the Courtyard building, that is one of my favorite buildings in the City.

steveosnyder Jul 9, 2013 2:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Wigglez (Post 6191987)
That's too bad. I had always hoped that the streets branching off of Osborne would develop some retail of their own to help build the area up. Guess there is still hope for that even if this project doesn't have it!

I think this might have something to do with the developer not being interested in lease; I think these are going to be condos, not rentals (but I might be wrong).

I should try calling the architect.

h0twired Jul 9, 2013 2:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisallard5454 (Post 6191640)
You are happy with how the city is running things then?

Of course things could be much better (ANY city will tell you that). However you have to take the good with the bad. I am assuming that you are younger (in your mid 20s) and don't really remember what Winnipeg was like 15+ years ago. When I see Winnipeg these days I see a VAST improvement from when I was in my late teens and early 20s. I choose to focus on what is better than losing sleep over a curb cut or gravel parking lot.

I spent nearly 9 years in Calgary and while people here love to wish that we had an LRT in Winnipeg or as many bike paths you have to realize that they are both different cities, and where one is strong in one place it is weak in others.

So while it would be nice to have some more forward and urban minded people in the City Hall chambers, much of the change also has to come from Winnipeg residents. More people need to take the bus, work/live/shop in downtown and other urban areas and generally create a critical mass that City Hall can no longer ignore. This will happen organically and takes time, but I see it happening faster now than ever before and that excites me.

Stay positive, Winnipeg is getting better. Even though we tend to trip over our own feet from time to time.

rypinion Jul 9, 2013 3:01 PM

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Originally Posted by steveosnyder (Post 6191998)
What should be done? I don't understand what you mean by "something". Do you think they should widen Osborne? Donald? Both?

I would rather see them widen Donald to Confusion Corner (but the Winter Club and the Squash Club wouldn't allow it), but wouldn't put it past the City to widen Osborne. I would cry if something happened to the Courtyard building, that is one of my favorite buildings in the City.

I'd rather see something clever done at confusion corner to improve throughput. Say a big roundabout or something.

Cyro Jul 9, 2013 3:06 PM

Great thread Wigs. ;) Spent "many years living in the Village".

Studio 511 on River is starting to fill up. Quite the impressive development, for it's age.


http://studio511.ca/images/new-pics/Page-1.jpg


Main Floor layout. Floors 2 and 3 are closer to being fully occupied.. (see website)

http://studio511.ca/images/floor-1.jpg

http://studio511.ca/


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