[Burlington] Nautique | ? | 26fl | Under Construction
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If Burlington can keep churning these things out than hopefully Hamilton can at least keep pace.
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This one might get a rough ride. There's already been opposition to it from the ward councillor and others.
http://www.insidehalton.com/news-sto...-appleby-mall/ http://votemarianne.ca/downtown-wate...re-burlington/ I don't think a tall tower is that out of place, given the other development planned or under way on nearby blocks. The developer probably anticipates a request to reduce the height so I bet they proposed 28-storeys while being prepared to build 20-25. Burlington's lack of available new development land means people have to get used to intensification, but it's going to remain a battle, especially in the centre of town. On some main streets elsewhere in the city there is plenty of space to add mid-rises, but something taller is acceptable downtown IMO. The trick will be balancing it against all the existing low-rise townhouses and older homes. |
Burlington feels development pressure
(Hamilton Spectator, Joan Little, Oct 23 2014) Development in Burlington has been intensifying, but when does intensification become overintensification? Today's game plan is for developers to apply for, say 20 storeys, so citizens feel they've won when the developer settles for 16, which was wanted all long. Adi Developments is proposing a 28-storey condo, with 226 suites, on less than a third of an acre, on the small parking lot on the northwest corner of Lakeshore and Martha, on the fringe of downtown. To its west is a one-storey medical building, and to its north, a small home and new three-floor units. I live nearby. One gentleman at the Oct. 9 neighbourhood meeting, attended by more than 100 people, asked what they really wanted. The answer was 28 storeys. The site is so small it needs eight parking levels to provide 218 parking spaces — only 77 per cent of the required 283 tenant spaces. Parking standards downtown are the lowest in the city. By my calculation the proposed development would need about 393 spaces elsewhere, but wouldn't qualify anyway because the lot is too small. Adi proposes five underground parking levels (a water table issue remains to be addressed), ground-floor retail, then three above-ground parking floors. Condos start on the fifth floor. One astute observer noted that the depicted building appeared to encroach into the air space beyond their land, and asked if that was allowed. Planning director Bruce Kushelnicki stated that if that was the case, permission would be required. It would be addressed in the planning report. He stressed that this was an information-gathering meeting. The planning department has not taken a position, and was there to hear concerns. The meeting was being held now because if a developer doesn't get an answer within 180 days (regardless of how complex the file is), it can take the city to the OMB, as Adi did on a recent application. Council will likely take its position in March. Burlington's official plan (OP) allows a maximum of eight storeys through rezoning, providing "they are compatible with surrounding land use, and provide a sense of pedestrian scale." Mayor Rick Goldring told The Spectator he believes the OP is right in this area, and had said at the Ward 2 debate that he could not support that intensity there. A 22-storey condo approved years ago south of the Lakeshore, not built yet, is to be the city's "landmark" building, Goldring said; so others should be subordinate. I was unable to find one higher than 17 storeys. Read it in full here. |
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I’m usually not a fan of high-rise, but it sounds like Burlington would be getting something really good here. Parking requirements wind up meaning eight levels of parking, so how could a smaller building make economic sense for redevelopment? |
This kind of fight is going to become more common downtown. The sites that don't affect or encroach on existing land uses are becoming rare... in fact now that the waterfront is spoken for, there are probably no land parcels and lots that don't have a major impact on neighbours.
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I swear Burlington is trying to build a better skyline than Downtown.
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http://i.imgur.com/oZibSMkl.jpg
nautiqueresidences.com This thread needs a name change: [Burlington] 374 Martha Street | ? | 28fl | Proposed ---> [Burlington] Nautique | ? | 28fl | Proposed |
I looks like a jumbled mess but hopefully the materials they use will make it look better when completed. I like a lot of the buildings in Burlington so I hope this one will have a positive impact on the area.
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"Nautique"? Like a naughty boutique? :D Subliminal sales pitch to particular market maybe? :haha:
Otherwise, Davy Jones is rollin' his good eye on the sea bottom, shakin' his head at the nautical word play... :rolleyes: I do want to see this built, but then I live in a mid-rise a few blocks away. And I can see how the locals in that immediate area (and some who live farther) don't like it. |
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Looks like a fight is about to ensue... I do agree with the developer's statements about downtown Burlington -- aside from the big festival weekends, it's pretty quiet most of the time despite some great restaurants and unique retail establishments.
What kind of downtown do we want in Burlington? THAT QUESTION has never really been explored. http://www.thespec.com/news-story/59...condo-project/ Quote:
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"Adi said 21 businesses left downtown Burlington last year partly because there are not enough people living in the core."
That certainly is interesting. Burlington seems to be in a weird spot now where there's no room to build new single family housing, but building upward is going to be fought tooth and nail by residents. Basically their population growth is close to done. |
As of a few days ago the "Nautique" signs on the site have been removed. Not sure if that means anything more than the developer getting their knuckles rapped for doing too much to promote a project that has yet to be approved, but it will be interesting to see how this situation plays out.
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- The building is already 75% sold out from a VIP registration event
- Sales open to the public this Saturday - The building got a 2-floor height decrease from 28 to 26 floors (It's still Burlington's new tallest) - urbantoronto.ca - Grand Opening Announced for Nautique Lakefront Residences This thread needs a name update: [Burlington] 374 Martha Street | ? | 28fl | Proposed ---> [Burlington] Nautique | ? | 26fl | Approved |
Not approved yet. It's going to the OMB next month.
https://www.burlington.ca/en/service...tha-Street.asp |
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Burlington council to hold special meeting on Adi's Martha Street condo proposal
(Burlington Post, Michael Gregory, Mar 11 2016) Burlington city council has scheduled a special meeting for Tuesday afternoon to discuss a “legal update” on a 26-storey condo development proposal for Martha Street. An application related to the property is the subject of an Ontario Municipal Board (OMB) hearing between the city and Adi Development Group that begins Monday. Both sides were unable to comment on the nature of the council meeting when contacted by the Post late Friday afternoon. The hearing is scheduled to start at 10 a.m. at city hall in Room 247 and is open to the public. |
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