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architeckton Jul 14, 2017 10:02 PM

Austin | 6 X Guadalupe | 848 FEET | 65 Floors | Proposed
 
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Originally Posted by drummer (Post 7844906)
Hey, does anyone know if anything is going on or planned for the old post office site?

I know it isn't the post office site proper, but 600 Guadalupe may be getting redeveloped soon. The link below takes you too a drone shoot done for a commercial client. The highest images come in at 773 feet.

http://panowings.com/folders/600guadalupe/

AusTxDevelopment Jul 14, 2017 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by architeckton (Post 7865734)
I know it isn't the post office site proper, but 600 Guadalupe may be getting redeveloped soon. The link below takes you too a drone shoot done for a commercial client. The highest images come in at 773 feet.

http://panowings.com/folders/600guadalupe/

That's the Extended Stay hotel. Sutton had it but now Lincoln Property Company controls that site. I don't know if they bought it or partnered on it, but they are planning an office building there. Those are some very specific heights - 419 feet and 773 feet. Developers usually get these panorama shots done to market the views to potential investors and/or tenants of their future buildings. Whether or not that is what this is, I have no idea.

The ATX Jul 14, 2017 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by architeckton (Post 7865734)
I know it isn't the post office site proper, but 600 Guadalupe may be getting redeveloped soon. The link below takes you too a drone shoot done for a commercial client. The highest images come in at 773 feet.

http://panowings.com/folders/600guadalupe/

That's very interesting. That would go along with what scraperwill said about 600 Guadalupe which is the motel site that had a CVC filing late last year.

The ATX Jul 14, 2017 11:00 PM

This is from the CVC determination. Half of the block is good to go up!

http://i.imgur.com/ZeDlVo6.png
https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...rtyrsn=1126127

The ATX Jul 14, 2017 11:45 PM

Two months after the 600 Guadalupe CVC determination request, a "development related" tree survey was done of the block. This is from the end of December and Sutton's name was still on the documents.

http://i.imgur.com/ynj1UGM.png
https://abc.austintexas.gov/attachme...7z0lzuJxrs7%2F

We vs us Jul 15, 2017 12:05 AM

I love this site.

the Genral Jul 15, 2017 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by We vs us (Post 7865827)
I love this site.

I love it more.

The ATX Jul 15, 2017 12:59 AM

Are you guys talking about 600 Guadalupe or SSP? :)

the Genral Jul 15, 2017 1:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The ATX (Post 7865845)
Are you guys talking about 600 Guadalupe or SSP? :)

I'm talking abut the panowings link a few posts above. I just spent about 20 minutes playing around on it.

The ATX Jul 15, 2017 1:08 AM

The Panowing views at 773' are incredible. Based on the construction progress of the buildings in the views, the drone pano could be from this past week.

We vs us Jul 15, 2017 2:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The ATX (Post 7865845)
Are you guys talking about 600 Guadalupe or SSP? :)

Ha! SSP, natch. Where else are you going to find such obscure but completely golden links? Plus, the advance intel on new stuff is just staggering. Regularly scooping the media by months.

So panowings is totally awesome, too.... interesting how dense we look at '419 (when the camera is still within the vicinity of the Austin Plateau) vs how dense '773 looks -- with nothing nearly that height, and all the surrounding parking lots and single story buildings exposed.

The ATX Jul 15, 2017 4:04 AM

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Originally Posted by wwmiv (Post 7865896)
Those are very specific heights. If those are potential views for marketing purposes, then a structural height is likely 20-30' higher than the top level view height, so (potentially) around an 800' building.

Exactly. Since this potential new tallest actually has some permit filings, it has some credibility. The drone shots and some reliable SSP insider info add some good corroborating evidence to this project as well.

KevinFromTexas Jul 15, 2017 4:58 AM

With our water front starting to fill in a bit, it makes sense that we'd start getting some taller ones further north in downtown. That's pretty much how I've always assumed it would be. The river flowing through our downtown is fairly wide and the whole area around it creates parkland. It's not like in a few other cities with narrow rivers that flow through the heart of their downtowns where they're lined with buildings right up to the water's edge in places. I sort of like the idea of having the taller buildings be farther away from the river, not because of Nimby sentiments, but because I think it'll make the skyline appear more interesting. I don't know. I just think a 700 or 800 foot building or even 600 foot one so close to the water would look a bit strange. The Austonian is at least two blocks north of the river. Besides, I'd rather be able to see a couple of 400 footers stepping up to an 800 footer (more layers and more buildings) than one single building blocking the others. Once the water front is completely filled in, we'll be appreciating any taller buildings that happen farther north so their construction can be seen from the river and parkland to the south of downtown. There really aren't many good vantage points of the north side of downtown and the northwest side of downtown to watch those areas fill in much, so having something taller than can be seen from farther away I think will be appreciated.

drummer Jul 18, 2017 8:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 7865926)
With our water front starting to fill in a bit, it makes sense that we'd start getting some taller ones further north in downtown. That's pretty much how I've always assumed it would be. The river flowing through our downtown is fairly wide and the whole area around it creates parkland. It's not like in a few other cities with narrow rivers that flow through the heart of their downtowns where they're lined with buildings right up to the water's edge in places. I sort of like the idea of having the taller buildings be farther away from the river, not because of Nimby sentiments, but because I think it'll make the skyline appear more interesting. I don't know. I just think a 700 or 800 foot building or even 600 foot one so close to the water would look a bit strange. The Austonian is at least two blocks north of the river. Besides, I'd rather be able to see a couple of 400 footers stepping up to an 800 footer (more layers and more buildings) than one single building blocking the others. Once the water front is completely filled in, we'll be appreciating any taller buildings that happen farther north so their construction can be seen from the river and parkland to the south of downtown. There really aren't many good vantage points of the north side of downtown and the northwest side of downtown to watch those areas fill in much, so having something taller than can be seen from farther away I think will be appreciated.

These are some good thoughts and observations. I've often thought about that as well. I've gone back and forth on the step-down approach to the river, and I"m leaning more toward it for some of the same reasons you mentioned.

I also think that Lavaca and Guadalupe would be a pretty cool corridor for height going north, but it seems that there are quite a few CVCs between 7th and 14th streets...but there are a couple lots that could yield a pretty unique building due to said corridors, of course. The other thing is that these two streets travel all the way through downtown and then continue south via S 1st, so it would be good for more density anyway, even if not with significant height.

The fact that the CVCs sort of form a triangle split by the Congress CVC could bring some really cool effects with more and more height and density throughout. If the height was limited to the river, that would never be seen.


Edit: Another area with no real CVC limitations that seems to go under the radar is bordered by West, MLK, Lavaca, and 15th or so to the south. This area seems untapped to me...right by West Campus, UT, the Capitol area, and the downtown core to the south.

jowens Jul 19, 2017 12:19 AM

http://panowings.com/folders/600guadalupe/

This ROCKS!!!!:notacrook::worship:

JACKinBeantown Jul 21, 2017 6:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jowens (Post 7869037)
http://panowings.com/folders/600guadalupe/

This ROCKS!!!!:notacrook::worship:

It sure does. I love how you can see the effects of the capitol corridors taking shape, especially on the far west side of downtown.

The ATX Jul 30, 2017 10:23 PM

Austin | 608 Guadalupe | 849+ Feet | 63 Floors | Proposed
 
This is trilliondollarted's post from the update thread. I also copied all the posts related to this project from the update thread beginning with the Panowing's drone view link that indicated that this could be a tall project.

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Originally Posted by trilliondollarted (Post 7880164)
608 Guadalupe
63 Floors
849 Feet to parapet and then looks like some additional above that to top
809 to top of 63rd floor
probably should get a thread.
http://i.imgur.com/t94EuNa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eZpriVg.jpg


KevinFromTexas Jul 30, 2017 10:37 PM

So it'll have "shoulders" like the Sears Tower does, and at the 54th floor at 710 feet. I likey.

According to that, it looks like it'll be office and residential. I know that was mentioned already, but those levels show "O" - presumably indicating office, and "R" for residential. The 63rd floor is actually the roof slab. It'll have 62 actual floors.

Jdawgboy Jul 30, 2017 10:40 PM

Now this is nice, I'm assuming mixed use. This is the plus side about CVCs. Now they just need to build it ASAP.

The ATX Jul 30, 2017 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdawgboy (Post 7880206)
Now this is nice, I'm assuming mixed use. This is the plus side about CVCs. Now they just need to build it ASAP.

I'm wary about it being Sutton since nothing has been built here by them.

It's thankfully not Sutton any more. See AusTexDevelopment's post - 2nd one in this thread.


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