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98fb Apr 8, 2009 6:51 AM

And it continues, man gunned down in upscale Vancouver neighbourhood. That makes it 29.

Unfrikinbelievable.

Rusty van Reddick Apr 8, 2009 2:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 98fb (Post 4183984)
And it continues, man gunned down in upscale Vancouver neighbourhood. That makes it 29.

Unfrikinbelievable.

The CITY of Vancouver is on pace for 48 murders this year- which could give it a higher rate of murder than San Francisco or even LA and perhaps TRIPLE the murder rate of Seattle. Unspeakably higher than Portland as well- and at around 9 per 100,000 it would be the highest murder rate in a (major) Canadian city. Ever.

SteelTown Apr 8, 2009 3:05 PM

Two men beat victim to death
57-year-old found in Worsley Road home

April 08, 2009
John Burman
http://www.thespec.com/News/BreakingNews/article/545190

STONEY CREEK –  Hamilton police are hunting for two people they say administered a fatal beating to a 57-year-old Stoney Creek man Tuesday evening.

The victim – whose name has not been released – died following emergency surgery at Hamilton General Hospital.

His death is the city's second homicide of the year.

Detective Sergeant Steve Hrab, homicide unit case manager, said the man was unemployed and has lived alone for some time in the small Worsley Road home where police found him.

Police were sent to the home after someone inside called 911 to ask for an ambulance at 6:30 p.m. Tuesday.

Officers found the injured man when they arrived, Hrab said, and realized his condition was “deteriorating rapidly”. He was rushed to hospital where he died following surgery.

Hrab would not comment on how many people were in the home at the time the man was beaten but he did say police believe he was assaulted by two men.

“This was not a random act,” he said. “We are pursuing the identification of those two people.”

He would not comment on the nature of the victim’s injuries or if a weapon was involved.

Hrab said police are trying to locate the man’s next of kin but have had no success so far.

His name will not be released until investigators have satisfied themselves they’ve made every effort to find family members, he said.

Police have the home under guard today. It is located on Worsley near Red Oak Avenue between Queenston Road and Barton Street east of Green Road.

PhilippeMtl Apr 8, 2009 4:30 PM

Montreal is at 5.

I think we will stay below 20 this year. Impressive for a population of 1.85 M.

I think Laval, the quiet suburb, is also at 5! How contradictive!

CANAUS Apr 8, 2009 8:58 PM

Toronto is at 12 after a domestic incident a couple of days back.

1ajs Apr 8, 2009 9:24 PM

winnipeg is only at 6 atm witch is down 3 from this time last year

mersar Apr 9, 2009 10:59 PM

Calgary is now at 11 following a shooting on Wednesday thats been ruled a homicide.

giallo Apr 10, 2009 2:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 98fb (Post 4183984)
And it continues, man gunned down in upscale Vancouver neighbourhood. That makes it 29.

Unfrikinbelievable.

Good lord. And it isn't even the summer yet.

giallo Apr 10, 2009 3:53 AM

Not really the kind of international press Vancouver needs or wants right now. Sigh.









From heaven to hell: 18 die as drugs war rages on streets of Vancouver

The Canadian city has been named the best place in the world to live. But those halcyon days are over

By Paul Rodgers

Sunday, 5 April 2009

Vancouver's streets are now a battlefield for rival gangs, armed with automatic weapons, seeking dominance in the city's booming illegal drugs trade. There have been 50 shootings there in the past three months

AFP / GETTY IMAGES

Vancouver's streets are now a battlefield for rival gangs, armed with automatic weapons, seeking dominance in the city's booming illegal drugs trade. There have been 50 shootings there in the past three months

* Photos enlarge

Once upon a very recent time, Vancouver had a clean, safe image. Nestled between a spectacular bay and snow-capped mountains, this Canadian city, which is twice the size of Birmingham, was described by The Economist as the most liveable in the world. Not any more. As it prepares to host the 2010 Winter Olympics, what it's got now is not cuddly, eco-friendly publicity, but blood-spattered streets littered with shell casings and corpses.

Vancouver is the battlefield in a war between myriad drug gangs, which include Hell's Angels, Big Circle Boys, United Nations, Red Scorpions, Independent Soldiers and the 14K Triad. Guns – often machineguns – are fired almost daily. "We've always been told by media experts to never admit that there is a gang war," the chief of police, Jim Chu, said last month. "Let's get serious. There is a gang war and it's brutal." Vancouver's Mayor, Gregor Robertson, confessed that the police are fighting a losing battle. Since mid-January, the city has recorded 50 gang-related shootings, 18 of them fatal. And the violence is not confined to seedy neighbourhoods. The cross-fire is happening in quiet, residential cul-de-sacs and the car parks of up-scale shopping centres. It's a suburban civil war.

Nor are hardened criminals the only victims. An attack on one gangster's car killed a 24-year-old man hired to fit it with a new stereo. In February, Nicole Alemy, 23, the wife of another gangster, was gunned down in her white Cadillac – with her four-year-old son in the back seat. On Friday, police arrested James Bacon – one of three brothers who left the United Nations gang to join the Red Scorpions, intensifying the rivalry between the two – for conspiring in the deaths of four gangsters in their flat in Surrey, south-east of Vancouver. Two innocent men were forced from the hallway into the flat and also killed. Police said they intend to make more arrests over the weekend.

As Vancouver has boomed over the past two decades, attracting wealthy immigrants from across Canada and the Pacific, so too has the illegal drugs trade. It is now the third largest industry in the province, generating between C$7bn (£3.8bn) and C$8bn a year. A young, party-loving population with liberal attitudes to drugs has created strong domestic demand, while the province's mild climate and a ready supply of well-educated horticulturalists has led to supply of a premium brand of cannabis called "BC bud", produced mostly in hydroponic "grow-ops".

The drug's superior quality – "one puff and you're anaesthetised," reported one academic – also found favour with customers in the US, encouraging an imaginative corps of smugglers. Customs agents have found shipments in church vans, hollow logs and even kayaks. One enterprising crew emulated the prisoners of Stalag Luft III, digging a 110m tunnel "under the wire". The bigger problem for Canada, though, was the return trade. The US drug distributors preferred to pay in kind, with cocaine and guns.

Many commentators think Vancouver's violence is just a skirmish on the fringe of the much larger war in Mexico, where 6,000 were murdered last year as the state tried to reassert control over territories seized by drug lords. The result has been a 50 per cent rise in the price of cocaine in Canada, and correspondingly higher profits to fight over. But not everyone is convinced. Experts at Simon Fraser University argue that the problem is home-grown, and that it's exacerbated by police efforts to bang up mob leaders. "All you do is create vacancies as you put people in jail," said Ehor Boyanowsky, an associate professor of criminology. "Suddenly there's an opportunity."

In the short term, say the academics, Vancouver's problem is one of unco-ordinated enforcement. By one count, as many as 11 different agencies, including the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and local police forces, were responsible for suppressing the drugs trade. The courts are almost as confused. Canadian justice is more tolerant than America's. No one has been successfully prosecuted for simple possession of marijuana in years, and Amsterdam-style hash cafés operate in a grey zone, only occasionally being shut down. Because of judicial leniency, officers prefer to see their targets collared in the US. The "Great Escape" gang were under surveillance on both sides of the border, but were arrested in Washington.

In the long run, many British Columbians, on both left and right, accept that legalisation and regulation are the answer. Just the sales tax on C$7bn of drugs would pay for several hospitals and schools, policing costs could be reduced, property crime by addicts to pay for their drug habits would be slashed, and the gang wars could be quickly reined in. "But the international politics are unbelievable," said Dr Rob Gordon, director of Simon Fraser's school of criminology. "The DEA [US Drug Enforcement Administration] starts to foam at the mouth at the idea of there being a huge, legal marijuana farm just north of the border. Under George Bush, the concensus was that if Canada ever moved to exercise its economic sovereignty, they would shut the border down by searching every vehicle."

Until then, the best hope may be that one gang or another comes out on top, allowing it to impose stability, much as the Hell's Angel's bike gang used to do up to 15 or 20 years ago. Professor Boyanowsky said: "Those were the good old days."


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...r-1663008.html

98fb Apr 11, 2009 10:00 PM

I beleive they found a man in East Van couple days ago, Van is at 30 now!

DowntownWpg Apr 14, 2009 7:03 PM

Winnipeg Travel Advisory: brought to you by a realistic Winnipegger!

We came extremely close to three homicides by hatchet yesterday, broad daylight, right downtown.

In the MB & Sask section, they're talking about what is "World Class" in Winnipeg. I'd contend that the average Winnipegger is "world class" at recognizing the hostile and violent situation that we are in, and escaping dire situations with your life (most of the time). In short, we're world class at avoiding getting murdered by knives & hatchets!

P.S., the attack on Donald Street took place about a five to seven minute walk from the future site of the Human Rights Museum.... be sure to bring the family & kids for some Downtown Winnipeg tourism when it opens! (just be sure to wear a pair of good running shoes).


Hatchet-wielding teens involved in three robberies

A female credit union employee struck on the head by hatchet-wielding teenaged girls on Monday morning downtown was the third victim that day, Winnipeg police said this morning.

The employee was taken to hospital in stable condition.

The first attack occurred on McGee Street at about 6:35 a.m., when a woman was approached by two teenaged girls, one of whom was carrying a hatchet. The woman was assaulted and robbed of her purse.

Two hours later, another woman was walking near Vaughn Street and Ellice Avenue when police believe she was approached by the same two teens. After the girls threatened the woman, and demanded her valuables, she fled uninjured.

A short time later, a loans administration officer with Crosstown Civic Credit Union, fought teenaged girls who were trying to rob her on Donald Street. One of the attackers struck the woman in the head with a hatchet.

At least three passersby stopped to help the woman, disarming the teens who fled the scene.

Reports Monday afternoon said that as many as six teenaged girls had attacked the credit union employee.

Police said this morning that two 15-year-old female suspects have been charged with five counts of robbery with a weapon. They have been detained at the Manitoba Youth Centre.

Police said the investigation is continuing and more charges are pending.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...-42968272.html

Kris22 Apr 15, 2009 2:06 AM

^DowntownWpg, although I agree these attacks are disgusting, this is a thread about homicides...you really are blowing things out of proportion. If you read the article you yourself posted, you'll see that every person attacked was either uninjured or in stable condition. Hardly "extremely close to three homicides." I don't understand why you feel the need to report attacks in homicide threads.

vid Apr 15, 2009 7:11 AM

Someone robbed a drug store with about a dozen people in it the other day. That could have been a mass murder! Better stay out of Thunder Bay!

1ajs Apr 15, 2009 8:03 AM

hah we had a transit bus just get stolen tonight its now stoped and a k9 unit has been brought in this is crazy unny to listen to over the net scanner

Only The Lonely.. Apr 15, 2009 4:26 PM

Passenger steals city bus (Source)

Winnipeg Free Press - April 15, 2009

Police are looking for a man who took a bus - literally.

At about 2 a.m. today, a city Transit driver alone on the bus at Main Street and James Avenue was confronted by an "unruly" passenger, police said.

"He refused to get off the bus," a police spokeswoman said. "The bus driver eventually did leave the bus. The male started driving away."

The bus was located in the North End a short time later. It was undamaged. No arrest have been made.

koops65 Apr 15, 2009 4:58 PM

:previous: Someone should make a thread about crime in general, unrelated to homicides, where stuff like this can be posted.

98fb Apr 15, 2009 10:48 PM

Women found dead in Richmond, Metro Van at 31

LeftCoaster Apr 15, 2009 10:54 PM

women or woman?

DowntownWpg Apr 16, 2009 8:49 PM

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Originally Posted by koops65 (Post 4196896)
:previous: Someone should make a thread about crime in general, unrelated to homicides, where stuff like this can be posted.

Good point. Next time a horrible crime event happens in Winnipeg, I'll create a thread here titled "Winnipeg Travel Advisories." It can be used to post heads-up for people planning or considering a visit to Winnipeg.

Might be a handy thread for outsiders, so as to get a sense of what times of year to avoid and other helpful tips (like being sure to wear running shoes at all times, as I mentioned).

I'm predicting an ugly summer.

Glad to be at your service,
DowntownWpg

P.S., Winnipeg probably doesn't seem as scary lately, due to the rampant chaos that Vancouver has seemingly become. Not that Winnipeg's getting better, but Vancouver is taking much of the crime spotlight off us. Geez, I hope Van is able to get a better grip in time for the Olympics, or it'll be a national embarrassment IMHO.

good_dude Apr 18, 2009 7:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DowntownWpg (Post 4199468)

P.S., Winnipeg probably doesn't seem as scary lately, due to the rampant chaos that Vancouver has seemingly become. Not that Winnipeg's getting better, but Vancouver is taking much of the crime spotlight off us. Geez, I hope Van is able to get a better grip in time for the Olympics, or it'll be a national embarrassment IMHO.

Actually Winnipeg is getting better so far. We are 6 homicides this year, down from 10 this time last year.


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