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Darkoshvilli Mar 13, 2010 8:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by entheosfog (Post 4744249)
well, let's have a definition of canyon then. I was just going by what I'd seen posted earlier.

I wasn't singling you out, just the thread in general.

1ajs Mar 13, 2010 8:30 AM

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caltrane74 Mar 13, 2010 4:15 PM

Video Link


Here is more of me strolling down wellington.... in the new canyon created by the Ritz, Rbc, Metro Hall, and Roy thompson Hall...

MolsonExport Mar 13, 2010 5:51 PM

that 2nd exchange district (Winnipeg) photo is awesome

MolsonExport Mar 13, 2010 5:53 PM

Some are canyons. Some are gullies. Some are gulches. and then there is ditchmond.

Traynor Mar 13, 2010 6:18 PM

Cal I applaud your tenacity and I am a Toronto lover too, but one block of a street does not make a canyon. The above video is an example of what could be, but filling in the rest of it with your imagination doesn't make it so. A canyon either exists or it doesn't.

Even saying Bay street is a canyon from the lake to north of Bloor is a bit of a stretch. The east side of Bay north of City Hall is a cliff for sure, but the west side never matches its consistency and height to be a real canyon. Sections of it work but others don't.

In my opinion Toronto has many short spurts that are canyon like, if you squint and don't think about what happens at the end of the next block (ahem... surface parking lot).

In my humble opinion, a canyon should stretch for many city blocks, have consistent height on both sides of the street and few if any setbacks.

WhipperSnapper Mar 13, 2010 6:32 PM

Yep, Toronto has fewer actual canyons as one who think. There are a few complete blocks and a few more partials here or there but Corbusier's philosophy and unrealized 60s/70s redevelopment has certainly left its mark. The future is very bright with projects like 550 Wellington and Boutique.

caltrane74 Mar 13, 2010 6:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traynor (Post 4744608)
Cal I applaud your tenacity and I am a Toronto lover too, but one block of a street does not make a canyon. The above video is an example of what could be, but filling in the rest of it with your imagination doesn't make it so. A canyon either exists or it doesn't.

Even saying Bay street is a canyon from the lake to north of Bloor is a bit of a stretch. The east side of Bay north of City Hall is a cliff for sure, but the west side never matches its consistency and height to be a real canyon. Sections of it work but others don't.

In my opinion Toronto has many short spurts that are canyon like, if you squint and don't think about what happens at the end of the next block (ahem... surface parking lot).

In my humble opinion, a canyon should stretch for many city blocks, have consistent height on both sides of the street and few if any setbacks.


why do you have to single me out, you could have singled out the others.. if Bay Street is not a canyon, then which of the other posted pictures is?

This is the Canada section, and in those terms, Bay street is the monster here..

francely57 Mar 13, 2010 6:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by entheosfog (Post 4744037)
One-sided apartment tower canyon...?
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3830/dscf7392.jpg

That's a nice "cliff"!



Here's a little preview for Montreal, with some of my recent pictures (2010).
I'll post more later (and more pics of MAJOR canyons) once I find my older pictures.


St-Mathieu Street looking north, February 26, 2010
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...s/IMG_9623.jpg

St-Jacques Street looking west (from the east end of the street), February 26, 2010
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...s/IMG_9574.jpg

Notre-Dame Street looking west, February 26, 2010
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...s/IMG_9583.jpg

Sherbrooke Street looking west, January 8, 2010
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...s/IMG_8422.jpg

Traynor Mar 13, 2010 6:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caltrane74 (Post 4744647)
why do you have to single me out, you could have singled out the others.. if Bay Street is not a canyon, then which of the other posted pictures is?

This is the Canada section, and in those terms, Bay street is the monster here..

Sorry if you feel persecuted, I wasn't singling you out as much as I was singling Toronto out. 90% of the proponents of Toronto's possible canyons have been either you or Ramako. Yours was just the most recent post. I was just stating my belief that Toronto is not a city of canyons, in my (admittedly personal) definition of canyon. Some of the Vancouver and Calgary and even Ottawa submissions more closely resemble what I constitute a canyon.

Toronto has a lot of tall crap, for that it is the hands down winner, but sporadic height doesn't make a canyon in my opinion.

caltrane74 Mar 13, 2010 6:58 PM

^ whatever guy.

University Ave Streetwall by me

Video Link


yonge street by me


http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8909/sany1021.jpg

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6687/sany1023.jpg

imma post some shit and make traynor look stupid..

Toronto doesn't have Canyons????

good loard..

Bay Street isnt a canyon...??

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3367/...7c52df20_b.jpg

Ramako you used one of my pictures.... .now I'm double posting that !!

ha....well what can I say, it's hot..

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3635/...bc801fdf_b.jpg

ok Traynor, im ready forya smacktalk now...

let me have it.... i gotta thousand photos ready to go...

Here is the King Streetwall forming further west there with the Toronto Film Festival

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6345/sany0058.jpg

the low rise section of Yonge Street.. I was actually posting this in the 11 to 30 thread and said oh geez.. I can post this shot in the Canyon thread too..

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5829/sany0140.jpg

Darkoshvilli Mar 13, 2010 8:05 PM

Caltrane, I guess your definition of a canyon is any street that has buildings on it?:haha:

Traynor Mar 13, 2010 8:09 PM

That statement and your photos accomplishes the exact opposite Cal. They make you look stupid.... You are only showing ONE SIDE OF EACH STREET. That makes them cliffs not canyons. Anyone familiar with Toronto will agree with this.

The other side of the street of every example you show is either lower rise, spartan, empty lots or full of setbacks. Those are all great examples of Toronto's development... but not of canyons. Please photograph from the centerline of those same streets, showing both sides, so the rest of Canada can be the judge.

Just keepin' it real. Don't take it personally. You didn't build the stuff.

caltrane74 Mar 13, 2010 8:18 PM

ok guy, its on.

I'll do a hardcore canyon update tomorrow.

I'm gonna bring pain.

mike474 Mar 13, 2010 8:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MolsonExport (Post 4744571)
that 2nd exchange district (Winnipeg) photo is awesome

+1 I'd like to see more of these.

David1gray Mar 13, 2010 9:06 PM

heres one of toronto, not sure what street this is though lol (taken by me last summer)

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...91731_5816.jpg

MonkeyRonin Mar 13, 2010 9:43 PM

Big canyons, little canyons; old canyons, new canyons; boring canyons, beautiful canyons; canyons downtown, canyons in the suburbs...plenty of canyons in Toronto to go around.

King St.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4430/96933537.jpg

Bay St.
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7801/100cc.jpg

York St.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/10/136zm.jpg

Yonge St.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7233/138nu.jpg

Richmond St.
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/7673/135zl.jpg

Carlton St.
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9659/139ibm.jpg

Victoria St.
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3139/137fv.jpg

Wellington St.
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8958/43762182.jpg

Bloor St.
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3962/140qk.jpg

Piper St.
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2835/88390649.jpg

University Ave.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5991/141oj.jpg

etc.

1ajs Mar 13, 2010 9:50 PM

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/330/alexanderal2.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/...f626e80f_o.jpg

Spoolmak Mar 14, 2010 4:51 AM

those toronto pics look like canyons to me

Darkoshvilli Mar 14, 2010 6:14 AM

The best "canyons" in Montreal are probably in old Montreal


St Jacques

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8372/stjak.png

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/748/stjak2.png


Notre-Dame

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9927/ntrdam2.png

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6483/notredam.png


McGill

http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/1731/mcgil1.png

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3791/mcgil2.png



St Paul

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/927/stpaul2.png


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