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giallo Nov 13, 2018 1:18 AM

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Originally Posted by whatnext (Post 8376671)
Interesting. According to this list, some other BC towns should fall later than Victoria, can one be included: Sechelt or Sooke? It would be nice to capture the last piece of Canada to succumb to winter :haha::

https://www.plantmaps.com/interactiv...t-date-map.php

Tofino as well, I imagine.

Nicko999 Nov 13, 2018 1:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TownGuy (Post 8376338)
No, it doesn't. Winter in Montreal is significantly colder. You're implying snow is the only difference. There are months it is double as cold.

Here are their daily means (I wanted to use McGill and the Annex, but couldn't find 1981-2010 data for McGill, so both cities are showing their colder airport numbers)

Toronto (Pearson)
Dec -2.2C, Jan -5.5C, Feb -4.5, Mar 0.1C

Montreal (Trudeau)
Dec -5.4C, Jan -9.7C, Feb -7.7C, Mar -2C


Our permanent snow cover starts on average early/mid-December and lasts until March so you just proved my point.

Outside of those months, Montreal is similar to Toronto's climate. Yes, outside of the warm months, we are about 1C maximum 2C colder before the first big dump of snow but that is not noticeable (growing season is the same length as an example).

A good example of that is December 2015. We had our first snow on Dec 27th, after which we plunged into a deep freeze. Up until Dec 27th, we were within 1C of TO in mean temperature for that month.

Look at this November so far:

Mean temp:

Toronto: 4.8C
Montreal: 4.1C

Milder, yes but hardly noticeable difference.

TownGuy Nov 13, 2018 2:29 AM

Ah ok so your point is quite literally that it is similar outside of winter. That is true but winter is 1/4 of the year so in the end it makes for quite a different climate overall. Seems like you're trying to brush it off.

Metro-One Nov 13, 2018 3:29 AM

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Originally Posted by giallo (Post 8376997)
Tofino as well, I imagine.

Tofino can be a weird one, it sometimes gets the odd cooler night and can freeze before Victoria, despite being milder overall during the winter.

The best ones to watch for late first freezes are:

The Southern Gulf Islands (currently coldest recorded low this season is 5.1.... and their last freeze was February 23.)

Gonzales Point (essentially Victoria proper, with current coldest recorded low this season at 3.9... and their last frost on February 26.)

And also Gibsons, Vancouver Harbour, White Rock, Esquimalt, etc...

Architype Nov 13, 2018 3:49 AM

^ To find places that did not freeze yet, they also may still exist at weather stations within Metro Vancouver, such as Vancouver Harbour. The freeze list, and minimum temperatures are inherently more difficult to define and categorize when referring to a larger geographical area such as Metro Vancouver because of the many variations within the larger area.

Coldrsx Nov 13, 2018 4:12 AM

8-10C tomorrow? Warmer than September!

Nicko999 Nov 13, 2018 6:23 AM

4C and sunny! Still a solid 2C below normal... what a shitty and awful last month and a half it has been. It better warm up soon.

The low was hit at 1AM (-3C), it warmed up to -1C this morning. Fucking brutal.

The warmspot was Solander Island, BC at 13.5C.

Marty_Mcfly Nov 13, 2018 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicko999 (Post 8377260)
4C and sunny! Still a solid 2C below normal... what a shitty and awful last month and a half it has been. It better warm up soon.

The low was hit at 1AM (-3C), it warmed up to -1C this morning. Fucking brutal.

The warmspot was Solander Island, BC at 13.5C.

Oof......do I tell him, or should someone else?

http://i67.tinypic.com/2jba2jl.png

Those overnight lows make me want to hibernate.

Marty_Mcfly Nov 13, 2018 1:35 PM

Charlottetown falls

Hard Frost List (updated)

Definition: 4 or more consecutive hours of temperature of -4C or lower

1) - Prince George BC - September 13 (7 hours below, min. temp -6.1C)
2) - Whitehorse YK - September 16 (5 hours below, min. temp -5.2C)
3) - Yellowknife NWT - September 27 (8 hours below, min. temp -7.8C)
4) - Saskatoon SK - September 30 (7 hours below, min temp. -8.3C)
5) - Calgary AB - October 3 (6 hours below, min temp. -6.8C)
6) - Regina SK - October 4 (7 hours below, min temp. -7.1C)
7) - Winnipeg MB - October 4 (5 hours below, min temp. -6.4C)
8) - Lethbridge AB - October 8 (6 hours below, min temp. -4.9C)
9) - Edmonton AB - October 9 (10 hours below, min temp. -5.0C)
10) - Iqaluit NU - October 9/10 (15 hours below, min temp. -6.9C)
11) - Thunder Bay ON - October 13 (5 hours below, min. temp -5.8C)
12) - Sudbury ON - October 18 (9 hours below, min. temp -6.6C)
13) - Saint John NB - October 23 (7 hours below, min. temp -7.6C)
14) - Fredericton NB - October 23 (6 hours below, min. temp -6.6C)
15) - Quebec City QC - October 23 (5 hours below, min. temp -5.0C)
16) - Moncton NB - October 23 (4 hours below, min. temp -4.4C)
17) - Sherbrooke QC - October 27 (7 hours below, min. temp -4.8C)
18) - Kamloops BC - November 9 (9 hours below, min. temp -6.9C)
19) - Kelowna BC - November 9 (6 hours below, min. temp -5.8C)
20) - London ON - November 10 (5 hours below, min. temp -4.7C)
21) - Windsor ON - November 10 (4 hours below, min. temp -5.1C)
22) - Ottawa ON - November 11 (9 hours below, min. temp -6.4C)
23) - Charlottetown PE - November 13 (4 hours below, min. temp -4.8C)

St. John's NL
Corner Brook NL
Halifax NS
Sydney NS
Montreal QC
Kingston ON
Toronto ON
Vancouver BC
Victoria BC

MonctonRad Nov 13, 2018 1:56 PM

Waiting for the next fall/winter storm to arrive here in Moncton. :(

Snow is imminent (likely within the next hour), transitioning to rain this afternoon. Likely 2-3 cm of the white shit before the changeover, then probably 20-25 mm of rain overnight, with temperatures rising to about +9C around midnight before falling again. This should wash the snow away, which has been typical of the last two storms (earlier last week).

High winds again, maxing out at 50 km/hr, gusting to 80. It is the windiness of these storms which bugs me the most but (miraculously) I haven't personally lost power (yet). I however note that a large 60' spruce tree in my backyard seems to have developed a new noticeable list. I'm eyeing it suspiciously (especially since the presumed trajectory of it's fall would be onto my neighbour's house).

There is yet another nor'easter expected on Friday. This one may be mostly a snow event and may finalize our plunge into winter.

Still too early for this shite. What happened to our mild fall forecast???? :hell:

Marty_Mcfly Nov 13, 2018 2:12 PM

^The warnings for Wednesday/Thursday storm are starting to pile up here. It could be a pretty destructive storm, and people tend to get caught off guard by these types of storms, so I'm trying to let everyone know to be prepared.

It happened two years ago during that insane late-winter wind storm that ripped through the city during the Brier. Meteorologists forecasted the gusty winds, but when it was all said and done everyone kept saying "why was there no warning??" despite there being ample warning. Usually if it isn't a blizzard or hurricane people don't pay attention to it.

Latest GFS model has the storm spinning off the coast Thursday 5am with a central pressure of 947 mb, which is in the range you often see in category 3-4 hurricanes. Winds won't be category 3-4 hurricane strength, but the forecast is predicting 120-140 km/hr gusts for the northeast coast including St. John's, and I wouldn't be surprised if those areas saw higher gusts, especially out near Bonavista.

MonctonRad Nov 13, 2018 2:23 PM

:previous:

Indeed.

I noticed the wind forecasts for the Avalon. It could be quite a blow for you guys.

It'll be windiest for us tomorrow too, along the back end of the storm. It looks like there will be rapid intensification in the Gulf.

HomeInMyShoes Nov 13, 2018 2:36 PM

-6C this morning, going up to 3C today. Which is just slightly above the normal of -1C. The week looks nice for mid-November as well with 5, 1, -9, -8, -3, 0 for forecast highs this week.

flar Nov 13, 2018 6:35 PM

There was a dusting of snow this morning. Thankfully it has melted. Not ready for that yet.

Acajack Nov 13, 2018 7:03 PM

It's been quite snowy in Canada's capital region since late October. Nothing that would leave a snowpack or anything, but a trace here, a day with flurries, then a few cm there. Then it melts within a day or two.

Nothing unheard but certainly uncommon for this early in the cold season. Some years there is a barely any snow to speak of before Dec. 10-15.

This morning's snowfall was the biggest so far. Probably about 5 cm.

Marty_Mcfly Nov 13, 2018 11:45 PM

https://scontent.fyqm1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...48&oe=5C83133E
https://www.facebook.com/BrianWalshM...type=3&theater

:runaway:

Nicko999 Nov 14, 2018 5:36 AM

3C and cloudy/rain this afternoon. Just another crappy day.

Low of 1C this morning. The island got mainly rain (save for parts of the West Island where it snowed) but Laval got a good 5 cm this morning. Funny because I didn't see accumulated snow all day.:haha:

The warmspot was Standard and Beiseker, AB at 16.9C.

Chadillaccc Nov 14, 2018 5:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicko999 (Post 8378688)
The warmspot was Standard and Beiseker, AB at 16.9C.

Calgary CMA hittin that November warmth hard ;)

Marty_Mcfly Nov 14, 2018 1:44 PM

Montreal, Toronto, and Kingston fall. Just coastal cities left now.

Hard Frost List (updated)

Definition: 4 or more consecutive hours of temperature of -4C or lower

1) - Prince George BC - September 13 (7 hours below, min. temp -6.1C)
2) - Whitehorse YK - September 16 (5 hours below, min. temp -5.2C)
3) - Yellowknife NWT - September 27 (8 hours below, min. temp -7.8C)
4) - Saskatoon SK - September 30 (7 hours below, min temp. -8.3C)
5) - Calgary AB - October 3 (6 hours below, min temp. -6.8C)
6) - Regina SK - October 4 (7 hours below, min temp. -7.1C)
7) - Winnipeg MB - October 4 (5 hours below, min temp. -6.4C)
8) - Lethbridge AB - October 8 (6 hours below, min temp. -4.9C)
9) - Edmonton AB - October 9 (10 hours below, min temp. -5.0C)
10) - Iqaluit NU - October 9/10 (15 hours below, min temp. -6.9C)
11) - Thunder Bay ON - October 13 (5 hours below, min. temp -5.8C)
12) - Sudbury ON - October 18 (9 hours below, min. temp -6.6C)
13) - Saint John NB - October 23 (7 hours below, min. temp -7.6C)
14) - Fredericton NB - October 23 (6 hours below, min. temp -6.6C)
15) - Quebec City QC - October 23 (5 hours below, min. temp -5.0C)
16) - Moncton NB - October 23 (4 hours below, min. temp -4.4C)
17) - Sherbrooke QC - October 27 (7 hours below, min. temp -4.8C)
18) - Kamloops BC - November 9 (9 hours below, min. temp -6.9C)
19) - Kelowna BC - November 9 (6 hours below, min. temp -5.8C)
20) - London ON - November 10 (5 hours below, min. temp -4.7C)
21) - Windsor ON - November 10 (4 hours below, min. temp -5.1C)
22) - Ottawa ON - November 11 (9 hours below, min. temp -6.4C)
23) - Charlottetown PE - November 13 (4 hours below, min. temp -4.8C)
24) - Montreal QC - November 13 (13 hours below and counting, min. temp -10.7C)
25) - Toronto ON - November 14 (4 hours below, min. temp -5.3C)
26) - Kingston ON - November 14 (6 hours below and counting, min. temp -7.7C)

St. John's NL
Corner Brook NL
Halifax NS
Sydney NS
Vancouver BC
Victoria BC

le calmar Nov 14, 2018 2:17 PM

It was -10C this morning, it feels like January outside. I didn’t check the historical data, but I am pretty sure that’s the coldest weather I have experienced in the first half of November in a very long time (I would not be surprised if it is a record).


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