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Xelebes Aug 14, 2016 5:12 PM

What Is The Weather Today? (No Mercury Jockeying!)
 
So, the old thread is about to reach its maximum and there is a pattern I notice too much of in these series of threads: people relying on websites or other sources other than their own contributions to describe the weather they must be dealing with and as a consequence turning towards databases to go with the tedious task of trying to rank or compare everything with which is not their own experience or discovery. People are not posting their own work with their own weather stations. So let's say screw it, forget the numbers. Look outside your window and tell us what you see. Go outside to experience the weather first hand and report back to us what you experienced. What preparations did you have to take? What were you able to accomplish under the weather conditions you experienced?

So, for the time being, we are going to let the previous thread reach its conclusion. And then in this thread, we are going to eschew relying on numbers to talk about the weather. You can post pictures you have taken and discuss about those pictures. We can discuss how the built form is responsive to the weather and the failures you notice.

This thread might be a challenge, or it might turn out to be even more fun. No more preposterous claims with vainglorious attempts at using statistics to substantiate such claims. More talking about what you are actually experiencing.

For example, I've looked out the window. It is warm and going to get hot and pleasant today, enough to do anything under the sun should I choose. The clouds are a bunch of cirrus wisps that leave the sky nice and open for the sun to beat down. It is going to be a very pleasant day to sit back with a beer, by a beach or out to the cabin. Suffice to say, I am going to enjoy today.

Now it's your turn.

CalgaryCheese Aug 14, 2016 5:30 PM

In Calgary, pleasant and sunny. A little chilly now but will get warmer as the day goes on. Lots and lots of sunshine!

SignalHillHiker Aug 14, 2016 6:22 PM

Warm, cloudy, but bright with partial sun. T-shirt and shorts are fine but you can tell that won't be enough after supper. Surprisingly still, at least where I am (dog sitting for a friend), but could be windier elsewhere.

http://i65.tinypic.com/ifsmls.jpg

TownGuy Aug 14, 2016 6:25 PM

I don't see what's wrong with numbers to be honest, I find it kind of interesting, if that's what people want to post what's wrong with it? If you don't like it skip the post.

VANRIDERFAN Aug 14, 2016 6:34 PM

Sunny and dry here in Regina. Went for a bike ride and there was a pleasant SW breeze to keep me cool. After a week of storms the farmers of the prairies would like a month of drought to get the crop off in good shape. There is potential to have bumper crop like 2013.

Architype Aug 14, 2016 6:52 PM

It's going to be too warm again today (it was warm/hot and humid yesterday). Mostly blue sky, warm, almost hot, a few clouds off in the distance in various directions, a slight gentle breeze. It's often much warmer here than at the airport.

mcminsen Aug 14, 2016 7:28 PM

A virtually cloudless day in Vancouver, so far. I will dress for the "heat" and will seek shade whenever possible as I'm out and about. I expect it to be pretty warm in the direct sun but comfortable in the shade. All windows and doors are wide open with the fans going (like most in Vancouver, I don't have air conditioning). I will be having a cold supper so as to not heat up the apartment.

I had a friend from Manhattan visiting this past week and he found the weather here a huge relief from the sweltering heat in New York. As a senior, I don't celebrate heatwaves so this summer in Vancouver has been pretty nice for my own liking.



Homer St., downtown Vancouver, Aug.14 '16, my pic
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/nLqf4W.jpg

kwoldtimer Aug 14, 2016 8:46 PM

Ottawa had a temperature today. Several of them, in fact. Also a humidex and a percentage of humidity. Apparently that's all you are allowed to know.... :shrug:

MonctonRad Aug 14, 2016 9:04 PM

I predict this thread is going to get very boring very quickly. With that, I'm off to the old weather thread.........

Xelebes Aug 14, 2016 9:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TownGuy (Post 7530607)
I don't see what's wrong with numbers to be honest, I find it kind of interesting, if that's what people want to post what's wrong with it? If you don't like it skip the post.

It's not the numbers that are the problem but the need to try and compare them and make preposterous claims which choke a thread. But I will make a compromise: you can post yourself images or videos of you measuring things like taking a picture of the thermometer you have on your window, or you walking outside with a ruler to measure that hailstone or the depth of snow. I think it captures well what you do with the outdoors if you bother to do that.

Edit: I did originally create a thread on a writers forum with this theme. Words, no numbers. It was actually fun. Well, except for the engineers who struggled a bit.

geotag277 Aug 14, 2016 9:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer (Post 7530697)
Ottawa had a temperature today. Several of them, in fact. Also a humidex and a percentage of humidity. Apparently that's all you are allowed to know.... :shrug:

If anyone cared about those details, why wouldn't they simply go on to Environment Canada's website and check them for themselves?

The fact is the old thread was absurd. It involved people posting numbers, some banal commentary on how X > Y therefore X is better than Y, and people copy and pasting forecasts which are readily available from other sources.

At the end of the day, that kind of commentary was attracting only a certain kind of contributor in general, and the interesting posts by guys like mcminsen were just lost in a sea of absolute garbage.

I think by actually forcing people to talk about weather outside of the banal commentary, the quality will be much higher, ie. more mcminsen-style posters who actually makes an effort to post pictures and describe the situation on the ground.

I think the one exception should be extraordinary weather events, such as record cold, record highs, and things that are actually interesting from a meteorological perspective. Outside of that, let's raise the level of discourse.

SKYSTHELIMIT Aug 15, 2016 2:47 AM

As mcminsen stated, hot sunny day here in Vancouver. Headed down to Hastings Park to catch the ponies with a few friends. Did all right, won on all three races and picked the winner on the last field of 10. I too have no a/c and up on the 26th floor it can get steamy in the afternoon. Beautiful week ahead!

Jets4Life Aug 15, 2016 7:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 7530706)
I predict this thread is going to get very boring very quickly. With that, I'm off to the old weather thread.........

Good. You just described the majority of your posts.

Trans Canada Aug 15, 2016 8:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TownGuy (Post 7530607)
I don't see what's wrong with numbers to be honest, I find it kind of interesting, if that's what people want to post what's wrong with it? If you don't like it skip the post.

If you don't like this thread, why not skip it?

+1 to this thread. If I was in Canada right now I'd describe my weather. Probably summery.

TownGuy Aug 15, 2016 9:09 AM

Right...

Skip an entire thread instead of a couple posts.

Jets4Life Aug 15, 2016 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TownGuy (Post 7531025)
Right...

Skip an entire thread instead of a couple posts.


Calgary weather has been consistantly warm. However, this is the most rain I ahve ever experience in the decade since I moved from Winnipeg. I hae to admit that I do enjoy the Calgarians being annoyed at the amount of bugs in the city. It's a fraction of what you can expect in Manitoba, so It has no effect whatsoever on me.

kwoldtimer Aug 15, 2016 12:07 PM

Awoke in Ottawa this morning to ... weather.

speedog Aug 15, 2016 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jets4Life (Post 7531031)
Calgary weather has been consistantly warm. However, this is the most rain I ahve ever experience in the decade since I moved from Winnipeg. I hae to admit that I do enjoy the Calgarians being annoyed at the amount of bugs in the city. It's a fraction of what you can expect in Manitoba, so It has no effect whatsoever on me.

Can't agree, I've lived in Calgary for 37 years now and aside from July/August being the wettest I can recall, they have also been the coolest for high daytime temperatures as well. A great year for the farmers assuming they'll be able to get their crops off of the fields successfully. Everything is very nice and green for this time of year in Calgary, I last watered my yard sometime back in early June - the really big problem is trying to find a small window of opportunity whereas the lawn is actually dry enough to mow it.

SignalHillHiker Aug 15, 2016 12:51 PM

Same as yesterday. Skies bluer. Wispy, high-altitude clouds again, but also some close, fluffy ones.

north 42 Aug 15, 2016 1:42 PM

..........

This is as pointless as a statistics thread with no numbers, no thanks!

Daveography Aug 15, 2016 2:56 PM

https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8524/2...062c0740f3.jpg

MolsonExport Aug 15, 2016 3:52 PM

https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6023/5...089b6085_b.jpg
clouds

rousseau Aug 15, 2016 4:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer (Post 7531053)
Awoke in Ottawa this morning to ... weather.

No weather here. Not in any quantifiable way, anyway.

Architype Aug 15, 2016 5:43 PM

Vancouver: No weather here either, just sunny and cloudless (liberal) skies, no wind, looks like another hot day and rest of week coming up. Our summer was late this year.

Denscity Aug 15, 2016 6:57 PM

Went for a run at 8am and was already warm enuf in the shade and warm in the sun. Now it's hot in the sun at noon with a slight breeze and we're heading for baking hot later in the afternoon.

lio45 Aug 15, 2016 10:03 PM

Warm.

mcminsen Aug 15, 2016 10:16 PM

Unusually clear in downtown Vancouver. Just a wall of blue behind the North Shore Mountains without even a few puffy clouds. Warm in the sun, cool in the shade, fresh ocean breeze, moderate humidity, no bugs. Ideal for most people and it looks from the forecast that there's a lot more on the way. Come November I will be remembering these halcyon days of late summer.



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Coal Harbour, Vancouver, Aug.15 '16, my pic
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/160...924/Kc9TlS.jpg

TorontoDrew Aug 16, 2016 3:36 AM

The description of this thread sounds like a grade 1 teacher telling the kids to write a report on the weather..

According to Environment Canada it's currently 23 degrees and cloudy outside right now in South Riverside. I don't feel like stepping outside right now to describe how it looks or feels. Busy playing Fallout 4 where I can tell you it's currently raining with radioactive lightening. looks like pants and a t-shirt kind of day.
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Loco101 Aug 16, 2016 3:50 AM

I'm on vacation in Saguenay, QC and the weather was beautiful today.

geotag277 Aug 16, 2016 5:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew (Post 7532022)
The description of this thread sounds like a grade 1 teacher telling the kids to write a report on the weather..

Actually I would more say it is the childish responses to the new rules, such as this one and others, that are more inductive of the actual members of the Grade 1 class room throwing a temper tantrum.

Why is it so hard to put forth a little tiny bit of effort, and post a picture of your city on the day to illustrate the weather, and say a few others about it beyond the numbers?

Again, people being so adamant about keeping the zero effort posting alive will only attract and reinforce the zero effort posters who are attracted to that kind of thing, again, drowning out the quality posts of people who do make an effort with a sea of garbage like this.

TorontoDrew Aug 16, 2016 4:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geotag277 (Post 7532091)
Actually I would more say it is the childish responses to the new rules, such as this one and others, that are more inductive of the actual members of the Grade 1 class room throwing a temper tantrum.

Why is it so hard to put forth a little tiny bit of effort, and post a picture of your city on the day to illustrate the weather, and say a few others about it beyond the numbers?

Again, people being so adamant about keeping the zero effort posting alive will only attract and reinforce the zero effort posters who are attracted to that kind of thing, again, drowning out the quality posts of people who do make an effort with a sea of garbage like this.


Well done! You are always a beacon of light on this forum. Mr Positive posting himself. lol

Cyro Aug 16, 2016 4:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MolsonExport (Post 7531190)

nice formation..

Although, I'll have to raise you with this particular weather related event near the Peg..

I'd like to call it, "Shroom Experience on the Prairies"

http://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_..._620/image.jpg
winnipeg.ctvnews.ca

lio45 Aug 16, 2016 5:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geotag277 (Post 7532091)
Actually I would more say it is the childish responses to the new rules, such as this one and others, that are more inductive of the actual members of the Grade 1 class room throwing a temper tantrum.

Why is it so hard to put forth a little tiny bit of effort, and post a picture of your city on the day to illustrate the weather, and say a few others about it beyond the numbers?

Again, people being so adamant about keeping the zero effort posting alive will only attract and reinforce the zero effort posters who are attracted to that kind of thing, again, drowning out the quality posts of people who do make an effort with a sea of garbage like this.

In fact, a picture alone doesn't tell that much -- a nice clear day with only evergreen trees visible in it (most of the areas around Van seem to be like that) and perfectly blue sky could actually be a minus 20C winter cold snap day...

And it's a lot more effort than just sharing a temp with numbers (which I generally, myself, don't do, unless the weather is unusual enough -- good or bad -- that it's worth mentioning).

Denscity Aug 16, 2016 6:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lio45 (Post 7532605)
In fact, a picture alone doesn't tell that much -- a nice clear day with only evergreen trees visible in it (most of the areas around Van seem to be like that) and perfectly blue sky could actually be a minus 20C winter cold snap day...

And it's a lot more effort than just sharing a temp with numbers (which I generally, myself, don't do, unless the weather is unusual enough -- good or bad -- that it's worth mentioning).

I don't know that Van pic looks pretty warm. And remember evergreen trees grow all the way down to California in the west. In the east evergreens seem to denote "up north".
But yes sun doesn't always mean warm.

Architype Aug 16, 2016 6:15 PM

In Vancouver, it's another nice warm mostly cloudless day, almost perfect, just a small breeze, but feels like it will be too hot my midday.
:) :)
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Denscity Aug 16, 2016 6:15 PM

Don't know if its early or not but apples are ready here in Castlegar. It is mid August after all but because of our hot Spring everything is early this year.

SignalHillHiker Aug 16, 2016 6:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daveography (Post 7531139)

:haha:

Same here. It's a weird sort of cloud cover. Mostly cloud, but sunny?

Xelebes Aug 16, 2016 7:00 PM

And yes, it is still sunny here in Edmonton. It is drying up slowly which is going to be awesome for harvest. The air is humid and so you feel the heat but it isn't going to make you stop. Just walked around for lunch and I liked it.

travis3000 Aug 16, 2016 9:01 PM

Yeah not a fan of this thread. Weather is all about statistics and numbers. It's like describing spring without flowers and budding... can't do it. Relying on official Environment Canada data from a main weather station is not a bad thing and actually should be encouraged. I'll be back in the other thread.

lio45 Aug 16, 2016 9:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denscity (Post 7532627)
And remember evergreen trees grow all the way down to California in the west. In the east evergreens seem to denote "up north".

I'm well aware of that (and for your info, you can find evergreens pretty far south even out East; I have some of these pines growing on some of my properties in FL) ... my point was that if there are only evergreens in a scenery pic, you can't tell if it's a +35C summer day or a sudden cold snap -15C winter day with no snow on the ground, or anything in between.

On the other hand, if you see at least one deciduous tree with green leaves in the pic, it's pretty much guaranteed the temperature at the time of the pic wasn't significantly subzero.

lio45 Aug 16, 2016 9:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denscity (Post 7532627)
I don't know that Van pic looks pretty warm.

The very coldest winter days in Quebec usually have a sky that looks exactly like that...

mcminsen Aug 16, 2016 11:27 PM

http://free-extras.com/img/pics/glit...ummer-7418.gif

Bliss.



English Bay Beach, Vancouver, Aug.16 '16, my pic
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/rmvbZR.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/Ck1vQy.jpg

Denscity Aug 17, 2016 12:38 AM

Castlefornia/Higher than Miami today.

Xelebes Aug 18, 2016 2:08 AM

Today has been cooler than yesterday. Warm but not hot. I can fall back to what is really comfortable for me, wearing a light coat and such. Not much of a breeze at all though so the coat didn't protect me from the breeze much. Wind is especially aggravating for me.

mcminsen Aug 18, 2016 3:08 AM

From the Vancouver Sun today:

"Warning issued as heat wave to hit Metro Vancouver

It looks like Metro Vancouver is in for its first real heat wave of the summer."

http://vancouversun.com/news/local-n...etro-vancouver

*************

I was out and about in the sun all afternoon today around downtown Vancouver and the False Creek seawall and it was not hot. Warm certainly, but the brisk ocean breeze was keeping things pleasant. I'm sure it was and will be hotter further inland and away from the water.



False Creek Seawall, Vancouver, Aug.17 '16, my pic
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/Rv4qcj.jpg

Xelebes Aug 18, 2016 7:13 PM

A bit fresh out at lunch but was awesome for me, given that is what I prefer.

Airboy Aug 18, 2016 9:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xelebes (Post 7535271)
A bit fresh out at lunch but was awesome for me, given that is what I prefer.

Liked the cooler breeze today. but after sweltering the last 6 days in Indianapolis and Cincinnati it felt a whole lot colder.

looking forward to a summery weekend in Banff for a long bike ride.

speedog Aug 18, 2016 10:49 PM

How about frost warnings tonight for areas just to the north of Calgary, barely past mid-August. Nuts.

mcminsen Aug 19, 2016 1:09 AM

I was pounding the pavement today away from the water so it felt hot, at least by Vancouver standards. The coolish evenings are most welcome. Seems like we're locked into this for a while, which is fine by me.




Vancouver, Aug.18 '16, my pics

Cambie at Broadway
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/36vM3T.jpg


41st Avenue in Kerridsale
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/TnLsg5.jpg

Architype Aug 19, 2016 4:30 AM

The trees are turning in Vancouver already, so 60s postcard like.

Today was borderline comfortable in Vanc..

:)


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