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summersm343 Sep 19, 2012 1:03 AM
PHILADELPHIA | Marina View | 130 ft
 
Originally thought to have been only 100 feet, the developers added more apartments to the project raising the final height to 130 feet. This is an important project for Philadelphia because it fills an atrocious empty lot on the Delaware Waterfront right next to the Ben Franklin Bridge in the Penn's Landing/NoLibs area.

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Developer Ensemble Real Estate has amended its original plan for Marina View Towers - a residential project at 230 N. Columbus Avenue, near the Benjamin Franklin Bridge – by adding more units, increasing the ground-floor retail space and slightly reducing the amount of parking.There have also been some small massing and color changes to the facade of the building, but the footprint remains the same, as does the height of 130 feet at the tallest point.

The number of apartments has grown from 180 to 296. Ensemble is adding more studio apartments based on market research, said
Title: Marina View
Project: 296 rental units, ground floor retail, structured parking
Architect: BLT Architects
Developer: Ensemble Real Estate
Location: 230 N. Columbus Ave., Philadelphia, PA
Neighborhood: Penn's Landing
District: Center City
Floors: 11
Height: 130 ft

Final Render
http://planphilly.com/sites/planphil...MarinaView.jpg

Article from PlanPhilly
http://planphilly.com/news/notebook/...an-development

summersm343 Sep 19, 2012 1:06 AM
Also, this has been approved by the Planning Commission and the changes have been approved.

Pennsgrant Sep 19, 2012 2:01 AM
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Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 5836531)
Also, this has been approved by the Planning Commission and the changes have been approved.
This sprawling rectangular box wasn't part of the Penn Praxis Waterfront plan.:yuck:


http://archpaper.com/uploads/WRTCivicPlan.jpg

summersm343 Sep 19, 2012 2:14 AM
Sprawling? Huh?

My response to you.

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Please explain to me what this is walling off? The sights of the river driving down 95???

You sound like a NIMBY. There is nothing behind this building but an on Ramp to 95 and 95 itself...

Also, since there is now a 100' height limit on the Waterfront... this is the designs we are going to be getting from now on, not sleek thin modern towers like we could be getting if this city wasn't obsessed with everything being shorter than 100'
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There is a 100 ft height limit on developments along the waterfront. I don't think that you will be seeing tall thin modern towers there in the foreseeable future. How is this suburban, anyway? It's 130 ft. tall with 296 apartments. This is the type of high density development that the waterfront needs in order to grow into a real neighborhood.


Aside from all of that, the new rendering looks a hundred times better. They nixed the cheesy orange color for something that will definitely age better. Plus, the front of the building in this rendering is less walled off than that of the older rendering, and even adds some green space and beauty. The article also mentions an included retail space, which is great. All in all, this is a rare case where we can actually thank the nimbys for making a project much better.

summersm343 Sep 19, 2012 2:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Pennsgrant (Post 5836580)
This sprawling rectangular box wasn't part of the Penn Praxis Waterfront plan.:yuck:


http://archpaper.com/uploads/WRTCivicPlan.jpg
The new Master Plan is also much more realistic.

sciguy0504 Sep 22, 2012 2:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Pennsgrant (Post 5836580)
This sprawling rectangular box wasn't part of the Penn Praxis Waterfront plan.:yuck:


http://archpaper.com/uploads/WRTCivicPlan.jpg
You would barely be able to see this in that view.

KillerIman Sep 22, 2012 3:13 AM
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Flyers2001 Sep 24, 2012 1:38 PM
:)It looks a hell of a lot better than the original.

mPhilly Sep 24, 2012 7:05 PM
Anything to spruce up hideous Columbus Blvd is okay with me. Still not sure how these developers plan to fill these waterfront buildings given all the residential development in CC right now and the empty condos just to the north.

summersm343 Sep 25, 2012 2:01 AM
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Originally Posted by mPhilly (Post 5842834)
Anything to spruce up hideous Columbus Blvd is okay with me. Still not sure how these developers plan to fill these waterfront buildings given all the residential development in CC right now and the empty condos just to the north.
The empty condos to the North (Waterfront Square) have a hefty price tag at approx $1.5 mill.... a price tag this area cannot support. The developers of this development plan to aim these condos towards recent grads/young professionals with prices around $1,200 a month for a studio. Something that I believe will attract people to get this area moving.

Nightman Jan 24, 2013 9:32 PM
Anyone know what is going on with this project. It was approved. No shovel in the ground yet? We need some action on the waterfront.

summersm343 Jan 25, 2013 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightman (Post 5986500)
Anyone know what is going on with this project. It was approved. No shovel in the ground yet? We need some action on the waterfront.
Would assume work will begin in the spring or summer.

Nightman Apr 25, 2013 4:41 PM
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Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 5986768)
Would assume work will begin in the spring or summer.
Another paper tiger? It is almost May and no action. I was hoping this job would get off the ground sooner. Any updates?

Flyers2001 Apr 26, 2013 1:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightman (Post 6104606)
Another paper tiger? It is almost May and no action. I was hoping this job would get off the ground sooner. Any updates?
No updates, but the area has a lot of construction with what look to be townhomes.

Aaamazarite Feb 20, 2014 11:24 PM
Party's over

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelp...article_search

Busy Bee Feb 21, 2014 12:08 AM
From an outsiders perspective, I think you dodged a bullet there Philly.

summersm343 Feb 21, 2014 3:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 6461327)
From an outsiders perspective, I think you dodged a bullet there Philly.
Ehhhh not so sure. I would rather have an 11 floor, 296 unit apartment building than an empty large grass lot. Plus, the company that bought it, PMC, is not necessarily known for their buildings being architectural gems:

2040 Market
http://media1.rent.com/p/2040-market...-136954795.jpg

1900 Arch
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3739/1...d62883d9_c.jpg

Plus, they are planning another building right behind 1900 Arch, a 25 floor building at 23rd and Cherry, and also just bought the Marketplace Design Center at 24th and Market and plan to add a tower on top of that.... sooo this lot will probably sit vacant for a few more years.

summersm343 Feb 21, 2014 3:36 AM
All in all, this thread can be closed. This project is officially dead. PMC will likely propose an entirely different development.


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