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flight_from_kamakura Mar 23, 2008 9:29 PM

Historic Vancouver Photos
 
the second hotel vancouver.


it used to stand on the southwest corner of granville and georgia, built 1911-1913 and demolished in 1947 (i think).

profile:

view from the hudson's bay building (vpl archives):
http://pix.nofrag.com/8/2/3/728b6c67...6c7f2e846d.jpg
http://b.imagehost.org/0354/View_of_...hurch_1916.jpg

view from georgia medical & dental building (vpl archives):
http://pix.nofrag.com/2/2/a/29a187b9...d4d6bd329c.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/3/e/0/a7652b2b...cb579c0a25.jpg

view from robson street (vpl archives):
http://pix.nofrag.com/6/f/0/34021dd6...43f8464400.jpg

georgia street driveway entrance (city archives):
http://b.imagehost.org/0320/Driveway...eets_1910s.jpg

interior (bc archives):

lobbyway
http://pix.nofrag.com/6/e/6/1794dff8...40bc9437f9.gif
http://pix.nofrag.com/8/7/0/87553e1b...c89541006a.jpg

entry to the main dining room
http://pix.nofrag.com/4/c/9/ef54fc66...49057af5c2.gif

inside the "grill room"
http://pix.nofrag.com/0/f/0/81dcbd2d...1c61269179.gif

billiards room
http://pix.nofrag.com/2/f/5/7d41224a...99ffd375c7.gif

entryway to the ballroom
http://pix.nofrag.com/8/2/c/4cd21a64...d4bbb37e0e.gif

flight_from_kamakura Mar 23, 2008 9:42 PM

old city hall.

it stood on the corner of northwest corner of main and pender, built around 1890, it served as city hall until the deco building on cambie was finished. not sure of the demolition date, but i'm told it was sometime in the 1960s (all photos from vpl archives).

before the carnegie library was built, there was a public market lot adjacent to city hall:
http://pix.nofrag.com/a/5/d/dfd0bbfc...770ed13cf2.jpg

notice the horse troughs and so forth:
http://pix.nofrag.com/b/0/0/0895fbf3...a10a150194.jpg

troughs gone, fire escape added:
http://pix.nofrag.com/8/1/7/56f9f8c8...1f6a9a0888.jpg

addition built below the fire escape:
http://pix.nofrag.com/a/2/3/dc1903ad...6fe9f9153a.jpg

beautiful street profile:
http://pix.nofrag.com/8/8/2/2c9398b5...21dfb98c45.jpg

a mini-civic centre at the edge of the core:
http://pix.nofrag.com/4/f/f/824f316e...b0cb2d465a.jpg

at the dawn of the automobile era:
http://pix.nofrag.com/c/4/5/baf20fc5...896ddd11ed.jpg

it was damaged some time around 1930 and lost its clock tower:
http://pix.nofrag.com/f/4/8/b4f7b8fd...09d1bd8732.jpg

and then in the 1940s, a new public market:
http://b.imagehost.org/0320/Old_City..._Sts_1930s.jpg

flight_from_kamakura Mar 23, 2008 9:52 PM

old vancouver art gallery.

everyone's talking so much about the new vag building, we've forgotten that the current building IS the new vag building (it's only been there since 1983 when erickson finished the new courts complex, freeing up the old one for the gallery). from 1931 to 1983, the vag building was housed in a beautiful example of low rise institutional deco, that sat at 1145 w. georgia, which is just adjacent to the site of the ritz-carlton residences project.

it's a real shame they couldn't save this one.

street profile
http://b.imagehost.org/0323/vag_1.jpg
http://b.imagehost.org/0323/vag_2.jpg

entrance
http://b.imagehost.org/0323/Entrance...treet_1931.jpg

and some lovely interior shots:
http://b.imagehost.org/0323/vag_interior_1.jpg
http://b.imagehost.org/0323/vag_interior_2.jpg
http://b.imagehost.org/0323/vag_interior_3.jpg
http://b.imagehost.org/0323/vag_interior_4.jpg

SpongeG Mar 23, 2008 9:55 PM

looks like an archway across georgia

vancouver just couldn't leave good enough alone

flight_from_kamakura Mar 23, 2008 9:58 PM

cpr terminus, vancouver station.

granville square and waterfront station sit of the site of van horne's old cpr terminus, a beautiful, almost story-book gothic building. it was built with the line and demolished when the cpr decided to build the ports and extend granville street, and that generally, vancouver had already outgrown it. a shame they couldn't have repurposed it somehow, as this thing would look amazing at the foot of granville street.

http://pix.nofrag.com/f/f/0/e3d5673d...ec70233668.jpg

aerial view
http://pix.nofrag.com/4/b/c/81c51299...b428da9738.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/b/4/a/9f26a5e4...2f97b1b611.jpg

street view
http://pix.nofrag.com/8/1/7/a5b38423...ebf6bad8fa.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/c/7/e/d0cb5ea5...fde9625909.jpg

rear view (looking south from the tracks)
http://b.imagehost.org/0807/2446.jpg

and check out these remarkable images (1914) of the construction of waterfront station
http://pix.nofrag.com/3/3/6/2311407f...7dca307da5.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/5/0/5/c9184394...65c3f40dcd.jpg

Overground Mar 23, 2008 10:00 PM

There's parts of that hotel that I like and some I don't. The portico on Georgia is cool though.

Personally I wish they would have kept the square like this. As you can see from shadows there used to be buildings on the south side of Robson that would have created a traditional, enclosed square. Something this city lacks. With landscaping and or paving the square, I think it would have been better than what we currently have.
http://i32.tinypic.com/2nqv8k2.jpg

pic from VPL

flight_from_kamakura Mar 23, 2008 10:09 PM

the georgia medical and dental building.

there's a thread on here about the demolition of this one in 1989, and though iit had low ceilings, etc, it's still a shame that it was demolished. personally, i think that what replaced it is an abomination. anyway, nearly every town in north america saw one of these deco medical buildings built, and vancouver's was one of the great ones. all photos from the vpl archives.

profile


looking northwest:
http://pix.nofrag.com/b/8/a/65d2b639...e9e92870bf.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/7/b/b/95062496...57b0b9f95a.jpg

looking east:
http://pix.nofrag.com/e/7/9/68ea20fa...ec0d3d2107.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/d/7/1/72972d26...3c3971e14c.jpg

street view:
http://pix.nofrag.com/1/c/4/46924ffe...c6ecfbd8c6.jpg

interior


lobby and elevators:
http://pix.nofrag.com/a/2/5/5aa50445...ccc79393f9.jpg

doctor's office waiting rooms:
http://pix.nofrag.com/b/4/1/edeaffbc...9a2e0299c2.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/f/6/e/0c7e3f23...0898e79151.jpg

"macdonald's pharmacy":
http://pix.nofrag.com/7/1/3/01210e89...6909acd9b4.jpg

two views of the beautiful deco auditorium:
http://pix.nofrag.com/3/7/5/e2c92fa7...f5e1a3a674.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/1/c/5/5ade78bf...b12e1dcc27.jpg

and vancouver's first underground parking!:
http://pix.nofrag.com/f/7/d/9b09e2cc...cf1e3c9faa.jpg

Smooth Mar 23, 2008 10:21 PM

Thanks for posting all those pics. I've seen many of them but not all in one place. Another gem that was lost is the Birks Building on Georgia and Granville, where the hideous London Drugs sits now.

flight_from_kamakura Mar 23, 2008 10:23 PM

great northern way station.

completed in 1917 and demolished in 1965, great northern station (colloquially known as union station) once stood adjacent to the pacific central station. it's pretty depressing to think that on the site of the failed tech park/new st. pauls hospital site, this thing once sat.

profile (from vpl archives):
http://pix.nofrag.com/4/b/3/e0638627...c4e0650155.jpg
http://e.imagehost.org/0961/Union_St...depot_1922.jpg

profile (from gnw in fraser valley website):
http://pix.nofrag.com/e/c/6/501f45ee...53d9ccd99a.jpg

street view of the facade and some old time buses (from vpl archives):
http://pix.nofrag.com/a/e/8/1cfd6361...67bde1ffca.jpg

interior, facing toward the street entrance (from gnw in fraser valley website):
http://pix.nofrag.com/c/7/b/0601174c...d37015b364.jpg

view of the parks and the two stations (from gnw in fraser valley website):
http://pix.nofrag.com/7/e/1/58116a30...68e5b1aa65.jpg

wonderful symmetry (from vpl archives):
http://pix.nofrag.com/c/8/5/023ecf1f...bde03c1ff0.jpg

you can see where the warehouses along venables close the plaza (from vpl archives):
http://pix.nofrag.com/c/9/d/115c6642...bbb3ec6144.jpg

Rico Rommheim Mar 23, 2008 10:26 PM

Vancouver had the nicest skyscrapers and buildings back in the early 20th century! Very striking!

What exactly replaced the Georgia dental?

flight_from_kamakura Mar 23, 2008 10:36 PM

birks building.


it used to be that the bay, the hotel vancouver and the birks building anchored vancouverites' sense of place. south along granville was the great white way, west was institutional, north was commercial - and these three buildings sort of functioned as all three. this one was demolished sometime in 1974, though thankfully the adjacent vancouver block survived. another loss for a city with precious little to lose. all photos from the vpl archives.

looking southeast:
http://pix.nofrag.com/2/4/2/f9ddf089...9fe7d6dd0a.jpg
http://b.imagehost.org/0320/Birks_Bu...914_and_19.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/f/c/2/f2f90d3e...45eb2ee636.jpg

looking west:
http://pix.nofrag.com/f/0/4/b55fe48f...f46da9f426.jpg

you can get a sense of the scale and impact of this thing by its profile:
http://pix.nofrag.com/9/a/c/5a66677e...0ec73e686f.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/6/8/9/80371b9b...421213dfff.jpg

street view (incidentally, notice the trolley bus is riding ahead of a tram!):
http://pix.nofrag.com/9/8/f/1a52f40e...a142d698a0.jpg

street view (the building on the left - but where's the awning??):
http://pix.nofrag.com/7/5/6/7ef15ffb...2f18228e59.jpg

deasine Mar 24, 2008 12:07 AM

wow Vancouver looked pretty nice back then. It's a shame we didn't keep some of those buildings... and even for those we kept, it's a shame how we don't preserve them.

hollywoodnorth Mar 24, 2008 12:51 AM

amazing thanks :)

SpongeG Mar 24, 2008 1:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim (Post 3434437)
Vancouver had the nicest skyscrapers and buildings back in the early 20th century! Very striking!

What exactly replaced the Georgia dental?

this one - you know that greeny thing

http://www.cs.ubc.ca/labs/imager/ima...vancouver2.jpg
picture found on google

Overground Mar 24, 2008 2:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpongeG (Post 3434384)
looks like an archway across georgia

vancouver just couldn't leave good enough alone

That's a decorative arch built in 1927 for the visit of the Duke of Windsor(future King Edward VIII)...the famous one that abdicated.

Looks like they had a pretty good flag pole back then in front of the Courthouse.

vanhattan Mar 24, 2008 2:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flight_from_kamakura (Post 3434381)
old vancouver art gallery.

everyone's talking so much about the new vag building, we've forgotten that the current building IS the new vag building (it's only been there since 1983 when erickson finished the new courts complex, freeing up the old one for the gallery). from 1931 to 1983, the vag building was house in a beautiful example of low rise institutional deco, adjacent to the site of future ritz-carlton hotel.

it's a shame they couldn't save this one:
http://pix.nofrag.com/5/5/0/1e615b25...d1e063ec7e.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/9/8/3/88cf770f...bb031a8dc2.jpg

some loverly interior shots:
http://pix.nofrag.com/2/5/d/860136ac...3ed2c96d14.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/d/8/f/a3fcfac8...4dd5916164.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/d/f/f/c9f3c58c...89a6ccb48b.jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/c/9/2/bb41d377...e653d2c3e9.jpg

OMG, this art gallery was fabulous! Thanks so much for the photos! Since this was the first and there is talk of building another, I vote that this building serve as inspiration for the next. A truely modern classic building would get my vote. Deco influences would also be great, if done properly.

officedweller Mar 24, 2008 3:02 AM

Interesting about the trolley bus and tram - I wonder if there were two sets of wires (temporarily) or whether the tram ran off the same live wire as the trolley bus (and the trolley bus had the extra ground wire)


Check out the display windows of The Bay, kinda wish they were restoring it to the full height windows and entrance awnings in the current restoration - but that wouldn't provide much shelter for the bus passengers waiting.

If you check out the 3rd Hotel Vancouver (the present one) in the BC archives, you'll see that it has been redone inside too - originally it was all art moderne / art deco - despite the exterior being chateau style. It was eventually gutted over the years and replaced with a more traditional look. The current interior main lobby dates to the mid-1990s.

flight_from_kamakura Mar 24, 2008 5:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overground (Post 3434394)
Personally I wish they would have kept the square like this. As you can see from shadows there used to be buildings on the south side of Robson that would have created a traditional, enclosed square. Something this city lacks. With landscaping and or paving the square, I think it would have been better than what we currently have.

agreed.

old robson square.

(all images from vpl archives)

view of the square from east side of howe street, at grade:
http://pix.nofrag.com/d/c/6/fe954d74...b60bf04541.jpg

from south of robson, overhead view:
http://pix.nofrag.com/9/7/c/ffd41475...3054970462.jpg

so, opposite the square on the northeast corner of howe and robson, you had the york hotel, with retail at the street level:
http://pix.nofrag.com/a/d/a/32812522...bdc19b739e.jpg

then, on the southeast corner of howe and robson, you had the court house block (offices):
http://pix.nofrag.com/2/d/d/0da5fd84...32e459622c.jpg

across the street, effectively closing the square was the sprott-shaw building on the southwest corner, and the clement block from midblock, which also had some retail at street level:

the best photo i can find of the sprott-shaw building, later ckmo radio building (on the left)
http://pix.nofrag.com/e/8/5/75adebdc...6dcfc45a08.jpg

clement building (dance school upstairs)
http://pix.nofrag.com/6/f/d/62b77356...7af5eb55b6.jpg

view of the southeast corner of hornby and robson (sprott-shaw at the end), with partial view of the entire block:
http://pix.nofrag.com/4/a/7/45fc7f9e...a18f2aec8f.jpg

mr.x Mar 24, 2008 5:09 AM

these are awesome! thanks for sharing!

VanExPat Mar 24, 2008 5:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flight_from_kamakura (Post 3434448)

the resemblance between the Strand, and the Metropolitan in winnipeg is astonishing.
http://www.mts.net/~astrang/NEWMET.jpg

**EDIT: I just answered my own question. Both were part of the Allen Theatre Chain, until later renamed. ***


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