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mSeattle Nov 15, 2006 5:13 AM

SEA ~ First Hill Projects & Photos
 
1200 Madison St
Council Land Use Action to Contract Rezone a 7,122 sq. ft. portion of property from HR to NC3 160' to allow a 13-story, 40-unit apartment and medical services office building with 3,928 sq. ft. of retail and 4,797 sq. ft. customer service office (bank) at ground level. Parking for 403 vehicles will be located in below-grade garage.

http://www.seattle.gov/dpd/luib/3004404.jpg

mSeattle Nov 15, 2006 5:36 AM

I meant to make is "First Hill Projects & Pictures"

mhays Nov 15, 2006 7:35 AM

1200 Madison is basically Phase II of 8th & Madison a few blocks away. Similar mix of uses by the same developer.

Seasun Nov 15, 2006 7:59 AM

Speaking of First Hill...the site mentioned above is at the north edge of the Swedish Hospital campus - at the south edge of the campus demolition is just getting going for the new Orthopedic building. For info check out http://www.swedish.org/body.cfm?id=1910&oTopID=23 which also includes a camera link for the construction cam junkies out there. http://sellen.oxblue.com/soi/

James Bond Agent 007 Nov 15, 2006 8:45 AM

Thread title edited per request.

mSeattle Nov 15, 2006 9:05 AM

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Originally Posted by James Bond Agent 007
Thread title edited per request.

Thanks 007!

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Originally Posted by Mhays
1200 Madison is basically Phase II of 8th & Madison a few blocks away. Similar mix of uses by the same developer.

Speaking of M Street (8th & Madison) I don't like the look so much at the top. Maybe they haven't unveiled all the exterior parts. Maybe it'll grow on me.

Capitol Hill Nov 15, 2006 5:31 PM

Hey, Seasun, did you see the 3-D modelling of the construction? Somebody either had some time on their hands, or that was needed to show somebody something specific. I don't know why, it's a pretty straight forward project, but it is interesting to watch.

mSeattle Nov 15, 2006 7:15 PM

It's a box.

Seasun Nov 16, 2006 7:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Capitol Hill
Hey, Seasun, did you see the 3-D modelling of the construction? Somebody either had some time on their hands, or that was needed to show somebody something specific. I don't know why, it's a pretty straight forward project, but it is interesting to watch.

Yes - I saw the modeling. Since I'm in the construction biz and like 3d modeling I find it very useful to model the construction sequence for many reasons. Even if the building geometry is relatively simple some of the reasons "4d modeling" is so useful are:
  • demonstrating to the customer you know the job and how you would build it (often in the marketing phase)
  • coordinating temporary facilities like cranes and manlifts that go through the building - sometimes it's hard to see what systems or spaces they affect if you're just looking at plan views.
  • bringing a standard CPM bar chart type schedule to life - many owners and architects (probably some contractors) don't understand or would take days to understand the logic in a CPM schedule and even then the logic could be wrong. Schedule simulation models really help show when an air handler (for example) is hanging in space without the supporting structure or the opposite problem - a large air handler just appears in a room after the room is closed in - faulty logic.
  • besides the time aspect of things mentioned above - when the contractor models the building we catch lots of conflicts in the design. It doesn't take a very complex project to have plenty of conflicts that slow down the construction process.
  • In summary, if the 4d simulations make the construction process more efficient and the contractor more competitive it really doesn't matter so much how curvy or large the building is - money, time and quality aspects of the project are improved.

mhays Nov 16, 2006 7:05 PM

You beat me to it Seasun!

Capitol Hill Nov 16, 2006 7:42 PM

Hey, thank you for explaining that to me. Now I'm intrigued to see the modelling of other large projects computer modelling, if they exist.

mSeattle Nov 20, 2006 1:31 AM

Walked by the site of the 23-level proposal at Boylston and Union and saw that demolition of the old structure has started. Don't know if this means the new tower is a go.

mhays Nov 20, 2006 6:04 AM

Boylston & Union? Closest tower proposal I'm aware of is Boylston & Seneca. Is that what you're thinking? Boylston & Union doesn't see to have an appropriate developable site anyway.

mSeattle Nov 20, 2006 7:45 AM

Ok, must be Seneca. I don't remember the names of streets well in that area.

Capitol Hill Nov 20, 2006 8:42 PM

Finally started demolition, huh? It seems like that site has been fenced off for more than a year. Any renderings?

mSeattle Nov 20, 2006 8:58 PM

Found a web page for First Hill community/development information. I think it's the First Hill Improvement Association - http://www.firsthill.org/

Also, with a name I was able to find this rendering of the 23-level tower!

Skygarden
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/275...arden01bv8.jpg
http://www.aiaseattle.org/2005HA/sub...idential_1.htm

James Bond Agent 007 Nov 21, 2006 3:30 AM

^
Wow, looks great! I'll add it to the Seattle Compilation thread!

mhays Nov 21, 2006 4:35 AM

Maybe it's really starting, maybe it's not, but it's exciting to think about. I like the design.

mSeattle Nov 21, 2006 5:27 AM

Yea I like the design too. It has the 3 C's = Colors, curves, and crown.

blackc5 Nov 21, 2006 6:22 PM

Great find, I really like the look of that building also. Nice transitions.


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