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NYguy Dec 16, 2010 2:33 AM

NEW YORK | 30 Hudson Yards (North Tower) | 1,296 FT | 92 FLOORS
 
Taken from the Hudson Yards thread:


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...googlenews_wsj
Work Set on West Side Rail Yard

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/i...1215211239.jpg
Development firm Related Cos. is awarding a contract to demolish a 60,000-square-foot building as part of work on the West Side rail yards, above.

By ELIOT BROWN
December 16, 2010


Quote:

Seeing green shoots in the New York City office market, development firm Related Cos. is stepping up early work on a massive project planned during the economic boom over the West Side rail yards by the base of the Javits Center.

This week, Related is awarding a contract to demolish a 60,000-square-foot building on the property once used as metal products distribution center. It is clearing a development site for what Related hopes will be the among the first post-recession office towers to be built. Related is talking to about a dozen possible tenants, says Jay Cross, who is leading the rail-yards development for Related.

The company is under pressure to get moving, given its agreement with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, which owns the 26-acre rail yards. The agreement calls for the developer to begin paying hefty rental payments once an improving office market hits an availability rate of 11% availability rate. It is currently 12.6%, down from 15% a year ago.

"The efforts we are undertaking ensure we are ramped up and ready to go because it's hard to predict exactly when you are going to hit on your first and second tenant deals," says Mr. Cross. "This market is very diverse when it comes to large users, and the market seems to be very resilient."

Related is focusing its planning on starting a 1.4 million-square-foot building on the southeast corner of the rail yards that would have up to 1 million square feet of office space, topped with 25 floors of apartments, according to Mr. Cross.

This 800-foot-plus tower would sit on firm ground, while the rest of the site requires an expensive roof to first be built over the tracks.


Like many developers, Related plans to effectively give away the office space at cost to a major tenant—asking for rents of about $70 a foot—while it would look to make its money on the residential above, Mr. Cross said.

The site has long been a priority of the Bloomberg administration, which sprinkled tax abatements on the property, and the city is funding an extension to the area of the No. 7 subway line, currently slated to be completed in 2013.

But it remains an open question among real-estate people whether a large tenant would make the jump to the unproven far West Side.

"Anytime soon I'd say it's low-probability," Robert Freedman, chairman of brokerage Colliers International's New York office, said of the project. "I think the fundamentals will be solid, but it's going to take a while."

SkyscrapersOfNewYork Dec 16, 2010 2:38 AM

awesome!!!!! :D

NYguy Dec 16, 2010 2:48 AM

http://www.hydc.org/html/project/mta-rail.shtml

Eastern Rail Yard
The eastern portion of the rail yard is an approximately 13-acre site located between West 30th and West 33rd Streets from 10th to 11th Avenues. The ERY was rezoned in January 2005 to accommodate approximately 6.6 million gross square feet of mixed-use development, including office, residential, hotel, retail, cultural and parking facilities, and public open space. The zoning controls for the site require approximately 7 acres of public open space, including a significant public plaza. Additionally, it is anticipated that development of the ERY will include a major new cultural facility. The High Line connects to the southern edge of the site.


Western Rail Yard
The western portion of the rail yard is an approximately 13 acre site located between West 30th and West 33rd Streets from 11th to 12th Avenues. The WRY was rezoned in December 2009 to accommodate approximately 6 million gross square feet of mixed-use development, including office, residential, hotel, retail, cultural and parking facilities, and public open space. The developer has also made a commitment to build up a minimum of 265 permanently affordable rental units on the WRY, and an additional minimum of 166 permanently affordable units on either the WRY or ERY, in either rental or condominium buildings, for a total of 431 permanently affordable units. The High Line connects to the southern and western edges of the WRY.

The future development of both the Eastern and Western Rail Yards will require the construction of a platform over the active LIRR operations.


http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1041511.jpg

NYguy Dec 16, 2010 2:53 AM

Closer overall look at the site plan being developed by Related:


http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1041512.jpg



I believe the first tower to be site labeled EC1

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1041513.jpg

RobertWalpole Dec 16, 2010 3:43 PM

It was reported a few weeks ago that the New York-based, handbag/shoe maker, Coach, is negotiating with Related for 600,000 sf of space in a new tower at the Hudson Yards.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/busines...8I6Eta9S92mOmK



Related woos Coach
Related eyes Coach bags

November 30, 2010

Steve Cuozzo

Stephen M. Ross's Related Cos. has a leathery catch on the line for its planned Hudson Yards development project -- New York-based luxury goods maker Coach, Inc.

Sources told us booming Coach is prowling for up to 600,000 square feet of office space on the West Side for a new corporate home. "Coach has been exchanging paper" with Related regarding Hudson Yards as well as with other landlords in the area, the sources said.

Publicly-traded Coach was founded here in 1941. Its leather bags, accessories and other products are sold at 400 stores in the US and Canada, including eight in Manhattan. But few shoppers know that Coach is also a big office-space user.

The company owns its 265,000-square-foot headquarters building at 516 W. 34th St., which it once used for manufacturing and where it still maintains a small factory to produce samples.

It also has a few hundred thousand square feet at 450 W. 33rd St. and at a smaller building on 34th Street. "Now, they've outgrown their premises," a source explained.

There's no letter of intent for Hudson Yards, at least not yet. But a source described the Related talks as "still a work in progress but very serious." Financially strong Coach currently has around $1 billion in cash on its balance sheet to play with.

The 26-acre Hudson Yards site bounded by 10th and 12th avenues between West 30th-33rd Streets -- most of it above the West Side rail yard -- is to be developed by Related and OMERS, the Ontario Municipal Employees Retirement System. Last May, Related signed a deal with the MTA to lease the site for 99 years, with the partners putting in a $21.75 million deposit.

The project is eventually to include 21 million square feet of development. The master plan calls for three corporate headquarters sites, 5,000 apartments in nine buildings, "destination" retail, a luxury hotel, a new public school, cultural facilities and 12 acres of public open space.

It was understood last night that Coach and Related weren't focused only on one of the office sites, but were exploring "options" at all three.

The MTA/Related deal is contingent on several economic-climate yardsticks. As is typical of such public-private arrangements, it's full of escape clauses and trap doors allowing either side a way out. Moreover, Related must first build a platform over the tracks.

But Related has said previously that with a tenant, work could start as early as 2012. And, if history proves anything, nothing can get a huge project off the ground -- and make all the issues go away -- like a tenant commitment.



Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/busines...#ixzz18HynD1Yt

NYguy Dec 16, 2010 6:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertWalpole (Post 5095362)
It was reported a few weeks ago that the New York-based, handbag/shoe maker, Coach, is negotiating with Related for 600,000 sf of space in a new tower at the Hudson Yards.

Yeah, that was posted over in the Hudson Yards thread. I'm sure they're one of the dozen potential tenants, and i'm not surprised by any of it.

Quote:

Related is talking to about a dozen possible tenants, says Jay Cross, who is leading the rail-yards development for Related.

NYguy Dec 16, 2010 7:09 PM

Meanwhile, here's the "illustrative" rendering of the railyards development. It can be misleading, because the buildings actually haven't been designed yet.
But what it does is give a window into how the development is planned to be built out.


http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1041863.jpg



However, the buildings shown are on the lower end of the spectrum, not a true indication of the potential height of the towers.
For that, I've taken the potential numbers from the EIS of the western yards (I don't have the eastern yards in front of me)
to give a better representation of potential heights.

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1041864.jpg



And here's the rendering with the location of the first office tower to be built marked, which will be on the eastern yards.

http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1041865.jpg

Gresto Dec 16, 2010 7:37 PM

Sweet development. I wish we had that here in T.O. I especially like those two neo-Deco towers in the front and the modernist slab to their right. The glass towers? Not so much.

SkyscrapersOfNewYork Dec 16, 2010 7:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gresto (Post 5095687)
Sweet development. I wish we had that here in T.O. I especially like those two neo-Deco towers in the front and the modernist slab to their right. The glass towers? Not so much.

well none of that will be built,its just a conceptual rendering

Dac150 Dec 16, 2010 8:51 PM

From that last rendering it shows how this will be a city within a city.

Roadcruiser1 Dec 16, 2010 9:25 PM

I hope they would design a 2000ft supertall as a signature tower for the Hudson Yards Project.

XxBassHunterxX Dec 16, 2010 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 5095848)
I hope they would design a 2000ft supertall as a signature tower for the Hudson Yards Project.

Now there's an idea! :banana: :whip: :whip: :banana:

Yo Na Dec 16, 2010 10:14 PM

It would have been nice to have a distinctive supertall buuilt there that would break through the skyline, Oh well.

JSsocal Dec 16, 2010 10:14 PM

I'm not hoping for a 2000 foot tall building, but something with a little more vision then this. At least a "signature office tower." The ones proposed now are uninspiring and just plain dull. The residential buildings look fine to me, and I'm glad they differ (at least conceptually).

Dac150 Dec 16, 2010 10:21 PM

Practicality is more important to the developer and tenant rather than building a trophy.

NYC4Life Dec 16, 2010 10:33 PM

So many towers it's difficult to keep track of it all :)

Busy Bee Dec 16, 2010 10:49 PM

What's the giant turd pyramid building that I think MTA has to do with as well as the NYP if I'm not mistaken? Is there no plan to redevelop this building? Has to be one of the worst structures in all of Manhattan.

Dac150 Dec 16, 2010 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 5095980)
What's the giant turd pyramid building that I think MTA has to do with as well as the NYP if I'm not mistaken? Is there no plan to redevelop this building? Has to be one of the worst structures in all of Manhattan.

Haven’t heard any revitalization plans about this building; I doubt anything is in the pipeline. The good news is that it’ll be buried with all the new development surrounding it.

Gresto Dec 16, 2010 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyscrapersOfNewYork (Post 5095725)
well none of that will be built,its just a conceptual rendering

I see. Yes, it would've helped had I actually read the post first.:duh

Crawford Dec 17, 2010 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dac150 (Post 5095982)
Haven’t heard any revitalization plans about this building; I doubt anything is in the pipeline. The good news is that it’ll be buried with all the new development surrounding it.

That tower has zoning for 3.1 million square feet of space, and will eventually be redeveloped.

A few years ago, the previous owners (Monday Properties) floated a couple of designs that included a massive tower above the existing structure.


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