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The ATX Jun 26, 2018 6:49 AM

Austin | Hanover Republic Square | 516 Feet | 44 Floors | Complete
 
This is a real project now, so it gets its own thread. The height and floor count in the thread title are from the marketing flyer vision, so the numbers will change.

Here's the tower info that AusTxDevelopment first posted about:

Quote:

Originally Posted by AusTxDevelopment (Post 8102254)
I didn't see a dedicated thread for this, so I apologize if it has already been posted. CBRE is marketing the 5th & Lavaca site for sale including a concept for a 40-story apartment tower. It's the site that the back of the Plaza Lofts face - the side with no windows. 301-303-305 West 5th Street. Below are some screen shots of the brochure.

http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/...psdnxkancd.jpg

http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/...pst1ozmyf6.jpg

http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/...psorbmckog.jpg

http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/...psdezk7dat.jpg

http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/...psbahtv4at.jpg

http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/...psku1xlx8y.jpg

Source: http://www.cbre.us/people-and-office...roperty-search


Two Demo permits have been filed to make way for this "mixed use" project.
This one is for 301 W. 5th:

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...pertyrsn=91742

Here's the location on Streetview:

https://i.imgur.com/Rqf8Gjo.png


Here's the Demo permit for 303 W. 5th:

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...pertyrsn=91748

Here's the location on Streetview:

https://i.imgur.com/23UveLb.png


Here's 427MM's post about the developer:

Quote:

Originally Posted by 427MM (Post 8231385)
Hanover (Ashton, Northshore) has it under contract. Hope they are moving dirt within nine mos--that site is in a sad state today.


Geckos_Rule Jun 26, 2018 6:09 PM

Doesn't look half bad, and it's reasonably tall. It will add great density to that area.

Not to mention it doesn't mess with the Roosevelt room. I love that bar.

The ATX Jun 26, 2018 6:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geckos_Rule (Post 8233509)
Doesn't look half bad, and it's reasonably tall. It will add great density to that area.

Not to mention it doesn't mess with the Roosevelt room. I love that bar.

We don't have an actual rendering yet. That's just a vision from earlier this year.

jomoarch Jun 26, 2018 9:54 PM

Would be interesting to see if the original proposed 44 story residential building for 300 Colorado just relocated a couple blocks over to this lot. They both have the same corner footprint on a 1/4 city block.

We vs us Jun 26, 2018 10:07 PM

It's funny -- Roosevelt's isn't part of this tract. If/when this gets developed, Roosevelts will be a single story lot in between two larger buildings.

Ideal for a bar, honestly.

Jdawgboy Jun 27, 2018 4:46 AM

I really wish whatever tower they build, that they incorporate those entertainment use buildings. Granted, those spaces are currently empty however I think it's important that new developments make room for more than just retail or restaurant space.

The ATX Jun 29, 2018 9:17 PM

A third Demo permit was filed today. This one is for 305 W. 5th:

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...ertyrsn=670084


Here's the former Rebel Saloon at 305 W. 5th:

https://i.imgur.com/C0BzqPK.png

The ATX Jul 13, 2018 12:33 AM

One of the three demo permits to clear the site was approved. It's for the building along the Lavaca St. side of the project.

https://i.imgur.com/ib0Yt2p.png
https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...pertyrsn=91742

The ATX Jul 13, 2018 12:48 AM

427MM was correct. This is a Hanover development. So we can be sure that it will be all or mostly residential.

https://i.imgur.com/nMyHlp0.png

The ATX Jul 20, 2018 1:43 PM

If anyone is interested in the history of the buildings being demolished, there are four HLC backup files with extensive histories of the buildings. The demo is being discussed at Monday's meeting. But there is no hint of what Hanover's tower proposal will be. :(

http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=302313
http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=302314
http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=302312
http://www.austintexas.gov/edims/doc....cfm?id=302311

The ATX Jul 27, 2018 4:44 AM

Approval for the Demo of all the buildings passed on consent at this weeks HLC meeting. I was hoping for some discussion that might provide info on the tower. But we'll have to keep waiting. :( I suspect (hope) something like the 300 Colorado residential proposal is planned for the site.

The ATX Aug 8, 2018 3:25 PM

The site plan was filed today for "a residential tower with ground floor restaurant space and structured parking with associated improvements." No details yet as usual with a new filing.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...pertyrsn=91742

The ATX Sep 3, 2018 1:12 AM

Based on the permits, it appears that demo could have started. Has anyone noticed if it started?

The site plan application was rejected, but it's back on track now. In about two weeks the formal site plan filing should be made public which should contain the actual height and floor count.

clubtokyo Sep 3, 2018 2:52 AM

Wow and right near where the republic will be, our beloved city is really starting to get dense and I love it. Does anyone think Austin might be the densest city in Texas in the future? Where do we rank now?

Echostatic Sep 3, 2018 4:47 AM

Based on my very quick wikipedia calculations for major texas cities:

1. Dallas - 3,958.5 pop/sq. mi.
2. Houston - 3,857.2 pop/sq. mi.
3. San Antonio - 3,280.2 pop/sq. mi.
4. Austin - 3,191.4 pop/sq. mi.
5. Fort Worth - 2,554.6 pop/sq. mi.
6. El Paso - 2,542.6 pop/sq. mi.

I think we'll end up around 3700 pop/sq. mi., maybe 3850.

We vs us Sep 3, 2018 1:25 PM

It’s funny that the full site won’t include The Roosevelt. It’ll be a weird little tooth-gap in the middle of that block.

Kind of amazing how quickly this thing is speeding along. Comparatively speaking.

MichaelB Sep 3, 2018 3:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by We vs us (Post 8302117)
It’s funny that the full site won’t include The Roosevelt. It’ll be a weird little tooth-gap in the middle of that block.

Kind of amazing how quickly this thing is speeding along. Comparatively speaking.

Thats; great! I love that there will be contrast and texture...

AND the Roosevelt will stay!

That's wonderful!

paul78701 Sep 4, 2018 4:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Echostatic (Post 8302020)
Based on my very quick wikipedia calculations for major texas cities:

1. Dallas - 3,958.5 pop/sq. mi.
2. Houston - 3,857.2 pop/sq. mi.
3. San Antonio - 3,280.2 pop/sq. mi.
4. Austin - 3,191.4 pop/sq. mi.
5. Fort Worth - 2,554.6 pop/sq. mi.
6. El Paso - 2,542.6 pop/sq. mi.

I think we'll end up around 3700 pop/sq. mi., maybe 3850.

I believe Austin has more residents in it's downtown (around 15k) than any other Texas city. That is way impressive considering our relative size compared to 1-3.

I'm not sure what the numbers for West Campus are these days, but I think it was getting close to 20k around 10 years ago. (I could be mis-remembering.) So I'm guessing West Campus may be close to 25k or so now. Add in the densification going on east of downtown (and whatever the population is there now), and those are some pretty good numbers.

The core of Austin is probably more dense than any part of Texas. It certainly feels more urban than any other part of Texas.

JoninATX Sep 4, 2018 4:41 AM

It's quite an impressive number.

drummer Sep 4, 2018 6:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul78701 (Post 8302679)
I believe Austin has more residents in it's downtown (around 15k) than any other Texas city. That is way impressive considering our relative size compared to 1-3.

I'm not sure what the numbers for West Campus are these days, but I think it was getting close to 20k around 10 years ago. (I could be mis-remembering.) So I'm guessing West Campus may be close to 25k or so now. Add in the densification going on east of downtown (and whatever the population is there now), and those are some pretty good numbers.

The core of Austin is probably more dense than any part of Texas. It certainly feels more urban than any other part of Texas.

Since there was a discussion on what is "downtown" and what is called "downtown" by folks from throughout the metro in another thread (city discussions, I think), I think it's relevant to consider the populations of downtown and the neighboring urban or somewhat urban districts also. For instance, I wonder how the downtown + west campus + east 6th (etc) areas could compare to Dallas with downtown, Uptown, Oak Lawn, Little Elm, etc. etc.... Then Houston with the surrounding areas (of which I don't know the names). Just curious. The downtown number is cool to consider, of course, but the urban fabric often goes beyond the CBD proper.


Back on topic: I like this building. I also like the fact that not all of the single story places go because it does provide some diversity. The discussion about losing the warehouse district brick fronts, etc., is certainly a relevant one, so I'm glad to see something left behind here.


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