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-Harlington- Nov 22, 2011 6:17 PM

It is fairly high for Halifax although only a few off from previous years so not crazy high.

I think the thing that was more impressive this year was the bad start to the year

pretty much all of the 15 were in the first five or so months of the year,
there was a lot of gun play and drug involvement, which seemed to be the main motives

anything else seemed to be personal disputes, its rare to have a murder be random in here.

Halifax always did have a high crime and violent crime rate per capita though, especially for this part of the country .

Marty_Mcfly Nov 24, 2011 10:49 AM

Number 4 (possibly) for St. John's

EDIT: Police said the death wasn't suspicious...I'm assuming whoever lit this car on fire was too stupid to step away from the car when throwing the match.

Quote:

Body Found in Vehicle

The RNC is investigating after a body was found in a vehicle that was found on fire on Three Island Pond Road in Topsail. Arson investigators have been called in and the investigation is continuing. Police are expected to have further details on the matter later today.

Another vehicle fire that happened on Oxen Pond Road is under investigation by the RNC. Police describe the vehicle as an older model van that had been stolen earlier at the Avalon Mall. It was destroyed by the fire. No arrests have been made.

And the investigation continues into a vehicle fire on Western Island Pond Drive. There is no word on the extent of the damage.
http://vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?mn=2&ID=18800

Blitz Nov 24, 2011 4:32 PM

Windsor is at 26 months murder-free!

PhilippeMtl Nov 25, 2011 1:16 AM

Salvatore Montagna, ex Boss of the New York Bonanno family was killed earlier today in Montreal North Shore

http://images.lpcdn.ca/569x379/20111...-assassine.jpg


http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...200/story.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvatore_Montagna

Acajack Nov 25, 2011 2:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilippeMtl (Post 5492411)
Salvatore Montagna, ex Boss of the New York Bonanno family was killed earlier today in Montreal North Shore

http://images.lpcdn.ca/569x379/20111...-assassine.jpg


http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...200/story.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvatore_Montagna

Quite the picture there... :(

Cre47 Nov 25, 2011 3:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitz (Post 5491898)
Windsor is at 26 months murder-free!

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Wi...444/story.html

Symz Nov 25, 2011 4:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blitz (Post 5491898)
Windsor is at 26 months murder-free!

Nope, we had our first homicide yesterday. A 26 month stretch is very good though, it's too bad it came to an end.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windso...-stabbing.html

My mistake, I didn't notice the posted link above.

Wharn Nov 25, 2011 5:26 PM

Even though the homicide-free record was broken, Windsor should be extremely proud of itself. 26 months and only 1 murder is a very impressive feat for any city over 100,000 people. London, in comparison, had its sixth homicide of the year about a week ago, which took place at a tenement in a distressed part of the downtown. Very sad considering that this time last year we were at half that number. I wish people here would have the same sort of civic pride that you find in Windsor, although that being said we're still thankful this ain't Regina.

http://www.lfpress.com/news/london/2.../18984376.html

Rusty van Reddick Nov 25, 2011 6:18 PM

London has "tenements"? Really?

vid Nov 25, 2011 8:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty van Reddick (Post 5493095)
London has "tenements"? Really?

Quote:

A tenement is, in most English-speaking areas, a substandard multi-family dwelling, usually old, occupied by the poor.
A run-down apartment building full of low-income people would be a tenement. It's an uncommon word for such a building though. I don't know about London, but Thunder Bay has been putting effort into shutting tenements down over the past few years. Most in my neighbourhood have been condemned, but a few exist. One of them has fire damage and is occupied by about 20 people from the north who had nowhere else to go.

Calgary might not have this issue because it is a newer, richer city, but in poorer eastern cities, run down multi-unit housing is a problem, primarily caused by neglectful or absentee landlords (aka slumlords).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wharn (Post 5493031)
I wish people here would have the same sort of civic pride that you find in Windsor

How does civic pride affect murder rates?

drew Nov 25, 2011 9:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wharn (Post 5493031)
Even though the homicide-free record was broken, Windsor should be extremely proud of itself. 26 months and only 1 murder is a very impressive feat for any city over 100,000 people. London, in comparison, had its sixth homicide of the year about a week ago, which took place at a tenement in a distressed part of the downtown. Very sad considering that this time last year we were at half that number. I wish people here would have the same sort of civic pride that you find in Windsor, although that being said we're still thankful this ain't Regina.

I don't get this statement at all.

If we are going to reach to the idea that a city can be "proud of itself", how does "civic pride" enter into when or how a murder happens?

Murders are basically impossible to predict, or prevent. And they almost always happen between people who know each other. Do you think any would be murderer or victim is wondering at the point the violence occurs that "hey, what will the good citizens of the community think!".

Good grief. Murders suck. But don't judge a community based on the fact some douchebag decides to stab his buddy to death in a drunken stupor (this isn't based on any specific crime, just an example of a common murder scenario in Winnipeg).

Biff Nov 25, 2011 9:16 PM

^^^ i have thought about murder quite a few times, but i consider myself a huge supporter of Winnipeg and i just couldn't live with myself if i damaged the city's civic pride. So knowing that i have refrained..........for now:sly:




................i have said too much

LeftCoaster Nov 25, 2011 9:19 PM

haha yep, that's the only thing stopping me from going on a homicidal rampage... I don't want to tarnish Toronto's squeaky clean image!

Blitz Nov 25, 2011 10:13 PM

Son of a bitch, I totally jinxed it!

Rico Rommheim Nov 25, 2011 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilippeMtl (Post 5492411)
Salvatore Montagna, ex Boss of the New York Bonanno family was killed earlier today in Montreal North Shore

http://images.lpcdn.ca/569x379/20111...-assassine.jpg


http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...200/story.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvatore_Montagna

wow that's not something you see everyday...

mr.John Nov 25, 2011 11:37 PM

Sal's effort to become capo didn't end too well,more to follow it's payback time

Marty_Mcfly Nov 27, 2011 2:21 PM

Quote:

One dead in suspicious St. John's fire

A man is dead following what police describe as a "suspicious" fire in St. John's early Sunday morning.

A spokesperson for the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary said firefighters were called to a home on Springdale Street around 4 a.m.

Apart from the victim, there were four other people in the house.

Three of the people suffered injuries and were taken to hospital. A fourth person was also taken to hospital and has been detained as a person of interest in the investigation.

Police say an autopsy will be performed on the victim to determine the cause of death.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfou...fire-1127.html

Number four for St. John's. I'm assuming anyway that arson when knowing well that people were inside the house SHOULD lead to murder and attempted murder. But yet again, anything is possible with the RNC (ie. a drug dealer was stabbed, shot and left for dead last month downtown, and the men who did it were only charged with robbery with violence and aggravated assault. But not the obvious attempted murder charge)

vid Nov 27, 2011 2:43 PM

I don't think Canada has an "attempted murder" charge, because I have never seen it used either.

Marty_Mcfly Nov 27, 2011 2:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vid (Post 5494646)
I don't think Canada has an "attempted murder" charge, because I have never seen it used either.

I've only ever seen it used here when coupled with a murder charge. Like when someone stabs 2 people, and one of them die, the aggravated assault charge against the survivor is upgraded to attempted murder. I've seen a lot of attempted murder charges laid in Halifax though, so I don't know if it's a provincial thing or not.

vid Nov 27, 2011 3:41 PM

A man here went on a rampage in an apartment building, threatening and stabbing elderly people until police took him down, and his highest charge was "theft over $5,000".

Quote:

The charges include one count of Aggravated Assault, two counts of Assault with a Weapon, two charges of Uttering a Threat, one charge of Resisting a Peace Officer, and one count of Theft over $5000.

...

The condition of the 77 year old victim has been upgraded to stable condition in hospital. According to earlier reports, the stabbing victim was in serious condition.

http://netnewsledger.com/2011/10/09/...bing-incident/
Probably not a good comparison though since he is mentally deranged. (Part of Harris's "the criminally insane can live peaceful lives with elderly people and children" legacy.)


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