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allovertown Jun 29, 2019 9:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Capsule F (Post 8619045)
Re:Hahnemann

This isn't really that big of a deal. First, Drexel is building a med school campus in Reading, PA attached to Reading Hospital, which is a huge institution. In the meantime I don't think there will be much trouble shuttling out their students for residency.

Also, I don't actually think Hahnemann will close for long, and I think any rumors of a demo are complete fantasy. I believe the state will rescue it and provide funding (much like they do for Temple) and have it operate under a different entity. Its possible another academic institution could absorb it, or Drexel could run it with state aid.

I have no idea how med school works but if someone just started med school at drexel and was planning on a quick subway commute to hahnemann, in what world would they be ok with being bused all the way the fuck out to Reading instead?

When I was in grad school I didn't have a spare second in my day, if suddenly my classes were a 3 hr round trip away from me out in the middle of nowhere I'd have to transfer to a different school that was actually nearby.

jsbrook Jun 30, 2019 2:04 AM

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Originally Posted by allovertown (Post 8619880)
I have no idea how med school works but if someone just started med school at drexel and was planning on a quick subway commute to hahnemann, in what world would they be ok with being bused all the way the fuck out to Reading instead?

When I was in grad school I didn't have a spare second in my day, if suddenly my classes were a 3 hr round trip away from me out in the middle of nowhere I'd have to transfer to a different school that was actually nearby.

More likely move to where the school is...but I think he is saying that current residents will be adopted/absorbed by local hospitals other than Hahnemann (and some in Drexel's residency program are not involved with Hahnemann now). And some students will shift to Reading when that is built. A residency is practical training after graduating from medical school. Residents in Drexel's residency program are not taking traditional classes anymore. Third- and fourth-year medical students from Drexel University College of Medicine do still take traditional classes at the Philly campus and rotate at both Hahnemann and Abington for their medicine clerkships and subinternships, and on critical care and subspecialty services. They are supervised by Drexel residents who function as mentors and educators.

So, while Hahnemann closing will impact both students and residents currently in these programs, probably none are only doing work at Hahnemann or solely dependent on it. And once Drexel's med school campus is built in reading, students can just work with hospitals in closer proximity. Hahnemann will have already closed.

Capsule F Jun 30, 2019 3:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jsbrook (Post 8620078)
More likely move to where the school is...but I think he is saying that current residents will be adopted/absorbed by local hospitals other than Hahnemann (and some in Drexel's residency program are not involved with Hahnemann now). And some students will shift to Reading when that is built. A residency is practical training after graduating from medical school. Residents in Drexel's residency program are not taking traditional classes anymore. Third- and fourth-year medical students from Drexel University College of Medicine do still take traditional classes at the Philly campus and rotate at both Hahnemann and Abington for their medicine clerkships and subinternships, and on critical care and subspecialty services. They are supervised by Drexel residents who function as mentors and educators.

So, while Hahnemann closing will impact both students and residents currently in these programs, probably none are only doing work at Hahnemann or solely dependent on it. And once Drexel's med school campus is built in reading, students can just work with hospitals in closer proximity. Hahnemann will have already closed.

Yes, I couldn't have said it better really. For rotations (3rd and 4th year) they probably will go to an affiliate hospital. For residency there is a matching system, so that should be affected much at all. They can almost go anywhere in the country for that.

Once it is developed, med students at the Reading campus will just do rotations at Reading Hospital or St. Joes. There will be no lack.

Jayfar Jul 1, 2019 1:37 PM

Hahnemann University Hospital owners file for bankruptcy protection | Inquirer.com
An attempt to sell St. Christopher’s and Hahnemann to Drexel University, which uses Hahnemann as the primary teach hospital for its medical school, went nowhere. In late May, Drexel informed Hahnemann officials that it was not interested in acquiring the facility, stating “we do not believe that HUH has any financial value,” according to Wilen.

Drexel to not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The real estate used the by the two hospitals and affiliated companies was not included in the bankruptcy. It is owned by separate entities.

jsbrook Jul 1, 2019 1:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayfar (Post 8620762)
Hahnemann University Hospital owners file for bankruptcy protection | Inquirer.com
An attempt to sell St. Christopher’s and Hahnemann to Drexel University, which uses Hahnemann as the primary teach hospital for its medical school, went nowhere. In late May, Drexel informed Hahnemann officials that it was not interested in acquiring the facility, stating “we do not believe that HUH has any financial value,” according to Wilen.

Drexel to not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The real estate used the by the two hospitals and affiliated companies was not included in the bankruptcy. It is owned by separate entities.

Ha! You know that quote is going to be front center in Hahnemann’s brief in opposition to Drexel’s preliminary injunction or whatever they filed. I’d use it as the first line, without (or before) even an introduction header if I was writing it.

jsbrook Jul 1, 2019 2:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Capsule F (Post 8620298)
Yes, I couldn't have said it better really. For rotations (3rd and 4th year) they probably will go to an affiliate hospital. For residency there is a matching system, so that should be affected much at all. They can almost go anywhere in the country for that.

Once it is developed, med students at the Reading campus will just do rotations at Reading Hospital or St. Joes. There will be no lack.

That is good. The closure remains a shame. I do wonder what this real estate will end up being used for.

Redddog Jul 1, 2019 4:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Capsule F (Post 8619568)
I agree it is confusing, because its technically a good location. However, I believe because of its extremely accessible location right on Broad and 676. People know you can literally just drive up and dump people at the curb.

It almost "suffers" from too accessible of a location.

I'm still confused about this....Literally every gunshot wound ends up @ Temple. I can't imagine that there is a more "underserved" stat than that.

Baconboy007 Jul 1, 2019 4:12 PM

Is this some sort of core sampling?

https://imgur.com/9G8pS47

Sorry for the poor quality photo. It looks like a pile driver or some sort of big drill in the parking lot of the Trader Joes at 22nd and Market.

Frontst17 Jul 1, 2019 4:18 PM

They receive a big proportion of overdose victims

jsbrook Jul 1, 2019 7:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Baconboy007 (Post 8620929)
Is this some sort of core sampling?

https://imgur.com/9G8pS47

Sorry for the poor quality photo. It looks like a pile driver or some sort of big drill in the parking lot of the Trader Joes at 22nd and Market.

EDIT: looked at the imgur. Thought it might be before checking the imgur photo out, but this is not the MLB lot. This lot doesn't front Market. There is another tower that was rumored for this lot awhile ago. I believe Summers has talked about it. I don't have the details.

summersm343 Jul 2, 2019 4:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jsbrook (Post 8621055)
EDIT: looked at the imgur. Thought it might be before checking the imgur photo out, but this is not the MLB lot. This lot doesn't front Market. There is another tower that was rumored for this lot awhile ago. I believe Summers has talked about it. I don't have the details.

32-story tower by PMC

jsbrook Jul 2, 2019 6:07 PM

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Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 8621748)
32-story tower by PMC

:cheers: In other news, Cecil's North Broad tower is going in front of/went in front of CDR today: https://philly.curbed.com/2019/7/2/2...es-forward-cdr

Aaamazarite Jul 2, 2019 6:15 PM

Called it!

http://planphilly.com/articles/2019/...in-center-city

summersm343 Jul 2, 2019 9:14 PM

A soaring 24-story tower designed for seniors to rise in Center City

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A soaring tower designed with aging baby boomers in mind is coming to a prime Center City intersection.

A building permit filed by developer Brickstone Realty last week detailed a 300-unit residential structure, including 60 assisted-living beds, and an 84-car underground garage. The 24-story project will rise on S. 12th Street at Sansom, replacing a two-story Park America garage that will be demolished.

The building, to be ultimately owned and operated by Benchmark Senior Living, will also include 80 bike parking spots and retail space on the ground floor.

John Connor, a principal at Brickstone, said the luxury complex would be age-restricted to residents 62 years or older, tapping a growing demographic of deep-pocketed retirees.

“The Baby Boomer cycle is aging out. There's an unbelievable demand for these kinds of units,” Connor said. “It’s been successful in other formats, suburban formats...But it’s time for that industry to move into the urban experience.”

He described the project as a “highly-amenitized building” and said that Brickstone is betting big on explosive demand for luxury senior housing, including assisted living and “memory care” for more infirm residents.

The development would not be the first private age-restricted building downtown Philly, but it would be one of the larger such projects.

Connor said he sold his own suburban home after 30 years on the Main Line in favor of smaller home in downtown Philadelphia where shops and restaurants are in walking distance.

“My children were long gone,” he said. “And it’s just a completely different lifestyle.”
http://planphilly.com/articles/2019/...in-center-city

ScreamShatter Jul 3, 2019 12:14 AM

Remember how scary the gayborhood used to be like 15 years back? It's going boom boom boom right now!

mcgrath618 Jul 3, 2019 7:20 AM

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Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 8621748)
32-story tower by PMC

God, between this, the Parkway office midrise to go up at 21st and Market, 20th + Arch, and the (hopefully happening) Brandywine tower going up at 21st and Market, this area is booming on an unprecedented scale.

Urbanthusiat Jul 3, 2019 1:27 PM

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Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 8622124)
A soaring 24-story tower designed for seniors to rise in Center City



http://planphilly.com/articles/2019/...in-center-city

Wouldn't a project this big have to go in front of CDR before getting a building permit? Are there situations in which that isn't the case?

jsbrook Jul 3, 2019 1:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ScreamShatter (Post 8622276)
Remember how scary the gayborhood used to be like 15 years back? It's going boom boom boom right now!

Had already cleaned up by the time I came back to the city in 2012 (everywhere except the 1300 block of Walnut, which has actually regressed since Wawa came). But someone posted this in response to this project in a facebook group I'm in: "This location went from Trannie hookers to Senior Living in just over a decade. Open Mic Night at Fergie’s will now have more banjo and accordian." I thought it was pretty funny.

mcgrath618 Jul 3, 2019 1:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbanthusiat (Post 8622562)
Wouldn't a project this big have to go in front of CDR before getting a building permit? Are there situations in which that isn't the case?

I suppose if it’s reaaaaaaaaally skinny, it could be under the minimum square footage.

Philly Fan Jul 3, 2019 4:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jsbrook (Post 8622583)
But someone posted this in response to this project in a facebook group I'm in: "This location went from Trannie hookers to Senior Living in just over a decade. Open Mic Night at Fergie’s will now have more banjo and accordian." I thought it was pretty funny.

Except that they're actually building this for the aging Baby Boomers/Woodstock generation, so it's more likely more Stratocasters and Telecasters. :cool:


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