Can someone explain the benefit of a 40,000 seat arena? I love the idea of the hotels and the entertainment district, but just don't see the point of a 40,000 seat arena. I think they should either do the big dome like was previouly planned or not do an arena at all. Some may argue we are after an NBA team, but that isn't at all likely to happen. There simply isn't enough interest in the NBA to support a team.
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Legion Field is, for the most part, crumbling. Not just the stadium itself, but the surrounding area. People don't feel safe going there anymore... and that, in part, has hurt those attendance numbers of the events I've listed above. Some of those fears are well-founded and some are just perpetuated by stereotypes and negative publicity in the media. Either way, it's a struggle to host any decent event at Legion Field outside of the Magic City Classic. Then of course, there's the problem that our current 17,000-capacity arena is too small for alot of events anymore. Many bigger events (basketball and such) require a minimum of 19,000. So that leaves us with an overly-large outdoor stadium in a bad part of town with ZERO entertainment, hotels, etc. nearby and an ever-growingly obsolete arena attached to the BJCC. It's abundantly clear to me that the hotels, entertainment, expansion of convention space, and upgrades to current facilities MUST happen. The dome/arena thing can continue to be debated if they like. But these other things are necessary if the downtown area expects to continue to progress at an even respectable rate. Man oh man do I wish we could just have the FBI come in and rip every politician out of this city and region and bring in some outsiders that aren't so corrupt and ultraconservative just for the sake of being ultraconservative. |
Thanks for the response.
I whole-heartedly agree with your last paragraph. Birmingham has got to move forward and bring in some entertainment to the downtown area. I love the fact that the Beale Street developers will be working with the City of Birmingham on this development. However, it seems like this compromise is going to turn out to be one in which no one is really happy. Those wanting fiscal conservatism are still going to dump a lot money in to a new arena and those wanting the dome to attract other events and such are going to a get an arena that is not really large enough to attract events that aren't already held in Birmingham. Oh well, at least the entertainment district looks like it is going to get done. |
At least SOMETHING might finally be about to come through...
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High end in Five Pts.
Hotel Highland to target upscale market Birmingham Business Journal - March 9, 2007 by Lauren B. Cooper Staff Renovations continue on the old Pickwick Hotel in Five Points South. Its new name will be the Highland Hotel and will feature a martini bar, developers say. View Larger Developers of the renovated Pickwick Hotel in Birmingham's Southside will call their new boutique offering The Hotel Highland @ Five Points South. Currently undergoing a $7 million renovation, the historic property is being transformed into a high-end boutique hotel by Atlanta-based Long and Cox Properties Inc., Denver-based Richfield Hospitality Inc. and Birmingham's Peggy Dye & Associates. Long and Cox announced in November the hotel had been purchased and was to be renovated, but at the time its name and many of the details were not disclosed. Slated to open early May, the 63-room property is being transformed into a high-end destination hotel, with modern guestrooms, a martini bar and a state-of-the-art fitness room. "The new ownership of the hotel is making a significant capital commitment to the property," said Tom Conran, Richfield's vice president of development, in a prepared statement. "We are very excited to be a part of such an ambitious project and our team is confident that the emergence of The Hotel Highland @ Five Points South will quickly become a destination of choice as the only upscale boutique hotel in the Five Points South area of downtown Birmingham." Mark Hucek, corporate director of sales and marketing for Richfield, said although the hotel will be geared towards an upper-middle-class traveler, prices for rooms will be competitive for the area, ranging from $159 for a regular room to $179 for a suite. This is the third life for the building, which was originally built as a medical office building in 1919 and later renovated into a hotel in 1984. When the building became a hotel, it was placed on the National Register of Historic Places. Touting a chic and luxurious atmosphere, all 63 guestrooms will be renovated to include marble and granite bathrooms, new modern furniture and LCD TVs. Twenty-eight rooms are suites, which additionally will receive small appliances. The hotel's martini bar will front 20th Street with a street entrance and will be located where the Pickwick had its breakfast room. The breakfast room will move to the hotel's courtyard area, company officials said. Garnering recent culinary attention from national newspapers, such as The New York Times and The Washington Post, the Five Points South area is home to numerous white-tablecloth restaurants, those known for attracting both local and national upscale clientele. All of renowned chef Frank Stitt's restaurants - Highland's Bar and Grill, Chez Fonfon and Bottega Restaurant and Café - are located in Southside. Other celebrated eateries include Hot and Hot Fish Club, Ocean and its sister restaurant 26. "If you look at the Five Points area, individuals drive in from Atlanta to have dinner and then they go home," Hucek said. "We believe this area is having a second resurgence with these restaurants. Hopefully, (the hotel) will help that area rebound even further." David Parker, general manager of Highland's Bar and Grill, said he is excited about having a boutique hotel nearby that he can recommend to out-of-town customers, not to mention the possibilities it will bring for the area. "Anytime you have existing restaurants and businesses renovating, it encourages everyone else," he said. "It's one of those things, if you clean one window you want to clean another. We're all in historic buildings down here and they need a lot of love and tenderness." Interior designer for the new hotel, Peggy Dye & Associates, has been based in Birmingham since its founding in 1981. Since then, Dye has designed for numerous hotel brands, including Holiday Inn, Residence Inn, Homewood Suites, Embassy Suites and Marriott Renaissance, and currently is working on 20 different hotel projects across the country, she said. Richfield Development said Dye, as an equity partner in the hotel, will consider The Hotel Highland her "showplace." Developer Long and Cox specializes in development of properties in the hotel and lodging industry. According to Richfield Hospitality's Web site, the Hotel Highland's management company oversees more than 5,000 rooms across the country for brands such as Hilton, Starwood, Intercontinental and Choice, in addition to several boutique and independent hotels. lbcooper@bizjournals.com (205) 443-5635 |
Big News on NBC13 regarding the BJCC Dome. NBC13 is reporting that a group of private investors, including someone out of Salt Lake City, showed up to City Hall and laid out a plan where said investors would pledge 1.5 billion dollars towards the dome/convention center development. The development would include a 75,000 seat dome, retail, restaurants, luxury hotel, and even a residential area. The City Council has requested a meeting this week to further discuss the proposal. The reporter stated that this group of investors has the 1.5 billion ready to spend, whether it be Birmingham or some other city.
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What?! Link?!
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It was breaking news on the 11:30 news break, so I doubt there is a link yet. I think they are doing a full story on one of tonight's broadcast.
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From BHM News
The Birmingham City Council wants the BJCC to meet later this week with a consultant who said today that she has $1.5 billion pledged by investors who want to build a 70,000-seat dome and an entertainment district at the BJCC. Carol Forge Hatcher made a presentation at the City Council meeting, and said she had not been given a full audience with the Birmingham-Jefferson Convention Complex Board. The council passed a resolution urging the BJCC board to meeting with Hatcher. Board chairman Clyde Echols said the BJCC welcomes any proposals from developers interested in helping build the proposed expansion and has given Hatcher plenty of opportunities to share her plans. Last year, the full BJCC board heard a presentation from Hatcher about a proposed $500 million hotel she wanted to build adjacent to the complex. She said that her project was not being taken seriously because she was black. The board requested more information on who her financial backers were and didn't hear from her again until a few months ago when the BJCC began serious discussions about an entertainment district with Performa Entertainment Group, the Memphis developer of Beale Street, Echols said. Hatcher then called and said she was working with The Nexus Group, a Utah developer interested in building the BJCC entertainment district. While at its Salt Lake City retreat last month, BJCC Executive Director Jack Fields and board attorney Tom Stewart met with Hatcher and The Nexus Group and toured some of their developments there, Echols said. "The BJCC has been fair in dealing with Ms. Hatcher," Echols said. Fields said he told Hatcher before meeting with her group partners in Utah that the BJCC had already signed a letter of intent with Performa to develop the entertainment district. He said Hatcher is welcome to build a hotel at the BJCC because the complex needs lots of extra hotel rooms to meet demand. Joseph Bryant and Roy Williams |
This a very interesting development and definitely worth pursuing. I think if this were totally funded by the private sector, most of the conservatives would be on board. I think most of the more liberal leaders would be for it as well. If this person and group of investors are legitimate, I say let's look very hard at this situation. You can't just push away a $1.5B investment opportunity without even investigating it.
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I say, Who is this masked lady with $1.5 billion in her hip pocket?
Can I hear $1.75 billion? |
It may be in the suburbs (actually Hoover to be exact), but I read in an article today that in April, developers plan to break ground on a 10-story Embassy Suites that would be located on John Hawkins Parkway (ie, Highway 150) and right near the Riverchase Galleria.
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BTW... has anyone heard anything recently about the Fed. Reserve development?
I was doing some digging around looking at some of the other Lexington Collection Hotels and found this one in Orlando. http://www.lexingtonhotels.com/Image...erty1_hero.jpg Certainly no guarantee the Birmingham version would look like this, but it looks pretty neat to me. |
I think this is a terrific idea. The area around the Civil Rights District has long been neglected by investors and redevelopment teams. Besides the money they're looking to put into the project, I really like the idea. Something like this could also spur on some restaurants or other retail to spring up nearby. Hopefully no one messes this up or tries to stand in its way... I can't imagine any reason why they would, but you never know in this city.
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It is interesting that there were no serious plans to developed the Civil Rights area until recently. There were plans to place phase II of the Metropolitan Gardens HOPE VI development adjacent to the area but they are now slated for construction near Lakeshore Parkway. It's good considering they will still be within the city limits but I'm still disappointed the city couldn't address the developer's concerns about the property - and yes, I partially blame Kincaid's poor leadership.
Both projects could have complimented each other nicely and would have done nothing but boost the image of the Civil Rights Institute and 4th Avenue Historic District -- something that I believe should have happened a long time ago, especially since Atlanta seems to be moving forward with plans to build their own Civil Rights museum. But I digress. In any case, I'm glad to see this plan coming together. It will be a welcome addition to the downtown landscape. |
This is a Metro Birmingham project, but it sounds pretty cool anyway...
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Brasfield & Gorrie gets UAB hospital contract
Posted by Birmingham News business staff March 20, 2007 17:16PM The executive committee of the University of Alabama System board of trustees awarded an $87.7 million contract Tuesday to Brasfield & Gorrie for the outside construction work of UAB Hospital's Women and Infants' Facility and radiation oncology center. The cost also includes a design-build management fee and architectural design of the interior. Site work already has started and construction is expected to begin later this spring. Brasfield & Gorrie submitted the low bid in January. The executive committee will vote again when the hospital gets bids for the interior construction. The women's facility and radiation center will be on the city block between 5th and 6th Avenues South and 17th and 18th streets. Anna Velasco Filed at 5:20 p.m. |
Found a good one from The Birminghamster from a few days ago :hmmm:
http://www.birminghamster.com/images/halfdome_lg.jpg Board Opts For Half-Dome Salt Lake City, UT (JM) - The Birmingham Jefferson Convention Complex Authority, while on their annual retreat in Salt Lake City, Utah, formally adopted a resolution calling for plans to be developed for a reduced vision of their former proposal for an 80,000-seat multi-purpose covered event facility as part of an expansion of the BJCC. The current proposal, dubbed a 'Half Dome', would have 40,000 seats, all on one side of the field. This would make it easier to use the facility for major conventions, concerts and other events while also providing room for future expansion should the board ever be able to purchase the necessary adjoining property. Critics were quick to compare this half-dome proposal with one that was publicized seven years ago for Vulcan Park, but organizers say that the current proposal is so disimilar as to render comparisons fruitless. "It's half-apples and half-oranges," said BJCC director Jack Fields. Jefferson County Commission president Bettye Fine Collins, who is a member of the BJCC board, insisted that, even though the half-dome is not primarily a sports arena, it would be designed to allow for a football configuration. It is expected that UAB would become one of the tenants for the new facility. Recently-appointed athletic director Brian Mackin said he had not seen the specifics and that UAB was still pursuing an on-campus field for home games. "But for the big games when Mississippi State or one of the big boys comes to town, it would be very handy to have a venue with 40,000 seats on the visitor's side." There is every indication that the city of Birmingham will half-honor its commitment, as well as Jefferson County. With each of those entities contributing half of the cost (which is expected to be about half of the previously-projected cost of an 80,000 seat stadium), all that remains is for the State of Alabama to contribute its half so that Brantley Visioneering can be contracted to develop a project schedule. |
that is ugly. what kind of football game would be in there. they need to rethink:hell:
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