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Hypothalamus Jan 17, 2014 6:05 PM
NEW YORK | 281 5th Ave | 705 FT | 52 FLOORS
 
DNAinfo New York:

40-Story Condo Development Headed to Fifth Avenue, Report Says
By Mathew Katz on January 17, 2014 9:07am

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The Kushner Real Estate Group hopes to build a 40-story condo at this spot.

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MIDTOWN — A huge new residential development could soon come to Midtown, according to a report.

Jon Kushner, a developer with the Kushner Real Estate Group, purchased three buildings at the corner of Fifth Avenue and West 30th Street in the hopes of building a high-end condo there, according to a report in Bisnow.

The condo at 281 Fifth Ave. would be 40 stories and about 135,000 square feet, Kushner said, according to the report.

KRE purchased the buildings in 2012, according to city records. At three floors, the building is easily among the smallest on the block and could be build much higher under current zoning.

The proposed condo would be designed by HWKN Architects, the report said. The spot is currently a shuttered deli.

Headquartered in New Jersey, KRE owns over 100 properties and has expanded in New York in recent years.

scalziand Jan 17, 2014 8:07 PM
Gee, and we used to consider Skyhouse in the background of that picture a sliver tower. How times have changed.

Submariner Jan 17, 2014 8:29 PM
Is this to be built solely on the deli land or does it include the buildings to the right of it?

chris08876 Jan 17, 2014 8:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Submariner (Post 6411303)
Is this to be built solely on the deli land or does it include the buildings to the right of it?
To the right of the deli. The developer bought the three buildings on the corner.

Submariner Jan 17, 2014 8:35 PM
^ Interesting. Thanks for the clarification. None of those buildings are particularly nice so there is no architectural loss there.

chris08876 Jan 17, 2014 8:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Submariner (Post 6411316)
^ Interesting. Thanks for the clarification. None of those buildings are particularly nice so there is no architectural loss there.
Its a good thing developers all over Manhattan are cleaning some of these decrepit structures. While I am a fan of older buildings, save the ones for the most part that are beautiful. This is just a eyesore on the corner.

I'm wondering how many feet or meters a 40 stories and about 135,000 square feet could yield. Not sure how to do that math.

Submariner Jan 17, 2014 8:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 6411325)
Its a good thing developers all over Manhattan are cleaning some of these decrepit structures. While I am a fan of older buildings, save the ones for the most part that are beautiful. This is just a eyesore on the corner.
Yeah. There are tons of fantastic old buildings that deserve to be preserved, but there is even more architectural diarrhea that needs to be razed ASAP.

Hypothalamus Jan 17, 2014 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Submariner (Post 6411303)
Is this to be built solely on the deli land or does it include the buildings to the right of it?
The development will included the lots of...

281 5th Avenue
279 5th Avenue
2 East 30th Street

I'd imagine they'd want to get 277 5th Ave also, but haven't heard anything about that.

NYguy Jan 18, 2014 1:16 AM
Yeah, nothing to miss there.

Hypothalamus Jan 26, 2014 10:10 PM
As of January 25th, 2014...
Photo Credit: EastMillinocket @ WNY

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©EastMillinocket

More photos at WNY

chris08876 Jun 2, 2014 6:07 PM
Kushner Cousin Sells NoMad Lot For Record-Setting $99M

http://ny.curbed.com/uploads/281-fifth-avenue-thumb.jpg

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Not many can say they set into motion one of the city's most expensive residential transactions to date over a relaxing cup of morning coffee, but according to a press release, it's true for Jared Kushner's cousin Jonathan Kushner of KRE. KRE, along with development partner Ironstate, have agreed to sell a parcel of three NoMad lots at 281 Fifth Avenue to Jersey home developer Victor Homes for the outlandish sum of $99 million, or $750 per buildable square foot. The Journal refers to the sale that closed on Friday as "one of the highest rates paid for a residential site in Manhattan." Prior to the sale, the development firms had planned a 40-story, 132,000-square-foot ultra-luxury tower at the 30th Street and Fifth Avenue corner. Victor Homes, who last year completed a luxury high-rise at nearby 241 Fifth Avenue, is likely to follow up with similar plans.
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Monday, June 2, 2014
http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2014/0...etting_99m.php

sparkling Dec 22, 2014 4:31 PM
51-Story Condo Tower by Rafael Vinoly Planned for NoMad

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs...fth-Avenue.jpg

Jessica Dailey
Monday, December 22, 2014
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As expected, developer Victor Homes will construct a condo tower at 281 Fifth Avenue on the corner of 30th Street, but the tower will be even taller than previously reported. When Victor bought the site in June for $99 million, reports speculated that the developer would likely follow through with the previous owner's (Kushner Real Estate Group) plans for a 40-story, 132,000-square-foot tower. But new information about the project, spotted by New York YIMBY, indicates that the building will be 51 stories and 250,065 square feet. The numbers come from a pitch for investors through the EB-5 program (through EB-5, foreign investors who put at least $500,000 into a project get permanent green cards), which includes a few semi-renderings that show a slender, cantilevering tower with some oddly-placed cutouts. It will be designed by starchitect Rafael Vinoly, who also designed a little building called 432 Park Avenue.
http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs...ilding%202.png

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If the renderings look familiar, you might be thinking of this mystery tower (↑) that was rendered in a video back in October. The locations are slightly different—this tower is off of Fifth Avenue and bound by 28th and 29th streets—but the similarities are certainly intriguing.

The project is being developed by Victor Group and the American Immigration Group. No building new permits have been filed for the tower, but demolition permits for the existing building were approved last week.
http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2014/1..._for_nomad.php

NYguy Dec 22, 2014 5:27 PM
Not too crazy about the design, but it appears to be in the 900 ft range from the renders.

chris08876 Dec 22, 2014 5:41 PM
In a way it kinda works height wise. Design I'm sure we will get better renderings in the future, but given the location, its average at best. If it would of been something in the supertall range, given the presence of the ESB, I would like something a little more intriguing. At least it doesn't appear to be an eyesore for now.

Crawford Dec 22, 2014 5:48 PM
It looks like lower Fifth Avenue is going to be lined with 900 ft.+ towers.

We have already three in development, at 29th Street, 30th Street, and 43rd Street, and still waiting on news for the Extell assemblage at 46th Street.

Ploppalopp Dec 22, 2014 5:49 PM
I agree about the design being not too impressive, but it could easily be a lot better. The problem that I see with this building is that there are too many flat surfaces (observation deck protrusion and setback halfway up the tower) instead of rounded or slanted ones. Also, it would probably look much better with a pointy roof or a V shaped roof that follows the pattern of the braces that go all of the way up the tower.
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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 6853246)
In a way it kinda works height wise. Design I'm sure we will get better renderings in the future, but given the location, its average at best. If it would of been something in the supertall range, given the presence of the ESB, I would like something a little more intriguing. At least it doesn't appear to be an eyesore for now.

photoLith Dec 22, 2014 6:41 PM
This thing is awful, not only does it block ESB prominent position but its also ugly. If it was a sexy curved tower than I would like it better, but its a blocky ugly pos right now.

NYguy Dec 22, 2014 7:35 PM
It's already been pointed out that these are two different renders for two different locations, but I'm not a fan of either...


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/158607202/original.jpg

chris08876 Dec 22, 2014 8:29 PM
Its tentative. I suspect the design will change. Still in its early stages.

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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 6853258)
It looks like lower Fifth Avenue is going to be lined with 900 ft.+ towers.

We have already three in development, at 29th Street, 30th Street, and 43rd Street, and still waiting on news for the Extell assemblage at 46th Street.
I hope we see more of this. Its good to fill in those gaps near the ESB. The lower 30's and even upper 20's need a little more height to slowly build the mass that is Midtown further South.

SkyscrapersOfNewYork Dec 22, 2014 8:57 PM
I am so tired of Vinoly...Honestly based on what hes been showing lately hes a second rate architect, id rather see foster,koolhaus,shop or hadid work on this sight..hell get david chils even.


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