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The stuff in the foreground is where single people live; they aren't gonna be in 3-4,000 sq. ft. tract homes. I mean, yeah, it's better than McMansions in cornfields, but it isn't like Dallas falls short on that score. And I suspect these apartments will age about as well as McMansions. Dallas actually builds a crapload of multifamily. I believe they're #2 in multifamily construction starts, behind only NYC. But it's almost entirely the typology in the pic. |
Who care about transit usage? Queens probably has lower transit usage than Calgary and is 5x denser
Most Dallas suburbanites live in places that look like Plano, not ‘McMansions on cornfields’ Still scratching my head about what’s wrong with that pic. Transit? Check. Dense? Check. New construction next to urban center? Check If this were on Long Island you would be celebrating it |
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It's nice for what it is...but it ain't like some uber urban neighborhood in Boston or NYC and will never be. |
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Plano is literally "McMansions in (former) cornfields". It's exactly what I'm talking about. The pic looks awful because it's suburban style apartments on treeless streets and a barely used transit line a few miles north of downtown Dallas. And it's specifically being used to argue that Dallas has high density and transit share (it has neither). And no, I wouldn't be celebrating this on Long Island, and don't understand the relevance. Again, not remotely apples-apples; this is the Manhattan of Dallas (that whole North Dallas favored corridor). |
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Toronto from somewhere to the northwest:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...b8985d43_h.jpg Untitled by Franklin McKay, on Flickr |
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I'm one of those annoying Texans that loves this state way too much (I try to be as conscious and as not-annoying as possible), but I gotta be honest; Dallas is the most sterile and boring big city in Texas. I live in Austin, raised in Corpus, and have spent a lot of time in Houston, but I just can't wrap my head around Dallas. No one that I've ever met has ever even used DART and the city focuses too much on being flashy rather than fostering an urban environment for everyone. Very clean city, great architecture, but the city is a yawn. It's infrastructure is far beyond any city in Texas, but nothing about Dallas feels natural
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I guess if there weren't a lot of negativity about cities on SSP, there wouldn't be an SSP.
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Like, really. Because We all know Atlanta is head and shoulders above Dallas and Houston in terms of skyline size, density, proposed development, etc. Talk about glass houses. Envious, much? |
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#2 To call this the "Manhattan of Dallas" is just the definition of ignorant when ignoring neighborhoods like Uptown, West Village, and other downtown adjacent neighborhoods. |
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And there's no traditional urban fabric anywhere in Dallas. That's the point. |
OK. Sure.
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Atlanta's tallest skyscraper, BofA (1023 ft) is taller and better looking than Dallas' tallest, also BofA (only 921 ft), as well as Houston's tallest, JP Morgan (1002 ft). And in the past 30 years, Atlanta has added 18 new towers to its top 25 tallest buildings. In the past 30 years, Dallas has added one new tower to its top 25 tallest lineup. Houston, meanwhile, has added four. Indeed, Atlanta has added 13 more top 25 towers in the past 30 years than Dallas and Houston combined. ... Atlanta Heads Shoulders Houston Dallas |
^ dallas' relative skyline stagnation is a bit perplexing to me. the area has been growing like a weed, and yet has so little skyscraper construction to show for it.
the metroplex has added over 2M people over the past 20 years, but dallas has only built 2 towers over 400' during that time, with nothing rising above 700'. by contrast, chicagoland has basically been stagnant population-wise over the past 20 years, yet chicago has built roughly 100 towers over 400' during that time, with 14 of those rising above 700' (3 more to start soon). and then you have metro toronto which has been growing like a weed over the past 20 years, and toronto has built over 170 towers over 400' during that time, with 19 of those rising above 700'. population growth and skyline growth are sometimes directly correlated with each other, but certainly not always, as dallas and chicago prove. |
But on the multi family construction front, Dallas is tops in the USA
This is helping create many new urban spaces and clusters of density across the metroplex I’m sure if Dallas has Toronto’s prices, they’d be building less affordable towers instead of multi family But Dallas draws its growth from domestic middle class migrants. Toronto from upper class foreign migrants |
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and dallas' skyline has been remarkably stagnant for a good long while now, especially given it's very aggressive population growth. |
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Yeah, I am not a Dallas hater by any means(although I am well aware of its faults) and I am still in awe of the lack of buildings being built downtown.
Someone with a good guess or actual answer care to answer? I am beyond perplexed. I know most migrants to the metro are looking for a cheap suburban 3/2 and all the suburban development that comes with those types of areas. However, as Steely pointed out, there has been barely any large development downtown. Even with the city favoring a certain type of development, you would figure they would get more than TWO towers over 400 feet in the time span that so many American cities have been booming in that department. Hell, even little ole stagnant Norfolk has built our 3rd/4th/7th/8th/11th tallest in the last 20 years. And we are currently building our new 4th tallest as I type. |
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