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koops65 Jan 13, 2017 1:11 AM

Canadian Commercial Real Estate Thread
 
Toronto's Trump Tower on sale for $298 million

Toronto’s Trump International Hotel & Tower is finally up for sale, and the beleaguered building may lose its presidential brand under new ownership.

The sale includes 211 hotel units, 74 condo units and most of the tower’s retail and commercial space, including the America restaurant on the 31st floor.

The property’s court-approved receiver has set a minimum sale price of $298 million for the 65-storey tower.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/toronto...lion-1.3239219

whatnext Jan 13, 2017 1:14 AM

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Originally Posted by koops65 (Post 7676356)
Toronto's Trump Tower on sale for $298 million

Toronto’s Trump International Hotel & Tower is finally up for sale, and the beleaguered building may lose its presidential brand under new ownership.

The sale includes 211 hotel units, 74 condo units and most of the tower’s retail and commercial space, including the America restaurant on the 31st floor.

The property’s court-approved receiver has set a minimum sale price of $298 million for the 65-storey tower.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/toronto...lion-1.3239219

Oh to have $300 mil, just to change the TR in the building signage to a D!

vid Jan 13, 2017 1:36 AM

That sounds pretty cheap to me... Only $298 million for a building that size, on property that centrally located?

They would probably have been more successful if they weren't associated with an orange racist pig.

mistercorporate Jan 13, 2017 1:41 AM

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Originally Posted by vid (Post 7676376)
That sounds pretty cheap to me... Only $298 million for a building that size, on property that centrally located?

They would probably have been more successful if they weren't associated with an orange racist pig.

It's zoned commercial, everyone wants to dump their condos lol.. That being said, the building and rooms are beautiful inside and the location's great.

vanman Jan 13, 2017 1:46 AM

Why does this warrant its own thread in the Canada section?

dleung Jan 13, 2017 1:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mistercorporate (Post 7676384)
It's zoned commercial, everyone wants to dump their condos lol.. That being said, the building and rooms are beautiful inside and the location's great.

They're beautiful if one has the interior design taste of a Kardashian.

WhipperSnapper Jan 13, 2017 1:48 AM

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Originally Posted by vid (Post 7676376)
That sounds pretty cheap to me... Only $298 million for a building that size, on property that centrally located?

They would probably have been more successful if they weren't associated with an orange racist pig.

It's a foreclosure and that's the minimum sale price. I agree with mister corporate. The building is a liability. They couldn't sell the units during the past 15 years. Any buyer is probably going to have to sink millions to tens of millions to rethink the space.

niwell Jan 13, 2017 1:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dleung (Post 7676392)
They're beautiful if one has the interior design taste of a Kardashian.


I think the Kardashian's have much better taste actually! The interior is simply horrific.

WhipperSnapper Jan 13, 2017 1:54 AM

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Originally Posted by vanman (Post 7676390)
Why does this warrant its own thread in the Canada section?

Why not?

WhipperSnapper Jan 13, 2017 1:56 AM

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Originally Posted by niwell (Post 7676404)
I think the Kardashian's have much better taste actually! The interior is simply horrific.

Horrific is the house of the billionaire developer. Sofie Kaczynski tastes.

TorontoDrew Jan 13, 2017 2:10 AM

Hopefully some Saudi Billionaire buys it and has it moved to his country. They finally got the light feature working and it's as annoying as the President Elect.

TorontoDrew Jan 13, 2017 2:12 AM

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Originally Posted by niwell (Post 7676404)
I think the Kardashian's have much better taste actually! The interior is simply horrific.

Actually the units a pretty nice inside. Trying to hard to be a house in the Hamptons though.

koops65 Jan 13, 2017 2:17 AM

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Originally Posted by vanman (Post 7676390)
Why does this warrant its own thread in the Canada section?

It's a discussion about the sale of Canada's second tallest building. Which just happens to have the new US Prez's name on it. I wasn't sure where else to put this news...

Innsertnamehere Jan 13, 2017 2:38 AM

My understanding is that this only buys the unsold units and hotel rooms - of which there are of course quite a few. The amount of unsold hotel rooms would provide controlling interest in the hotel, allowing for a rebrand. As the building is a condo, ownership is not under a single entity. This sale is simply for what the developer couldn't sell already.

lio45 Jan 13, 2017 2:41 AM

The units look decent to me.

https://www.trumphotels.com/uploads/...gallery-04.jpg


The sale includes 74 unsold condos still?!?

ue Jan 13, 2017 2:42 AM

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Originally Posted by koops65 (Post 7676439)
It's a discussion about the sale of Canada's second tallest building. Which just happens to have the new US Prez's name on it. I wasn't sure where else to put this news...

The Toronto section? This is a very stereotypically Toronto view on their national relevance of what would be simply thought of as local news if it were Vancouver or Montreal. I don't recall Vancouver getting its thread in the Canada section for its own Trump Tower issues and protests.

WhipperSnapper Jan 13, 2017 2:43 AM

Let's not underestimate the number of unsold units. They will have a massive controlling interest in the corporation and possible have enough votes to dissolve it. The number of unsold units is around 80%.

lio45 Jan 13, 2017 2:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere (Post 7676463)
My understanding is that this only buys the unsold units and hotel rooms - of which there are of course quite a few. The amount of unsold hotel rooms would provide controlling interest in the hotel, allowing for a rebrand. As the building is a condo, ownership is not under a single entity. This sale is simply for what the developer couldn't sell already.

It includes unsold condo units, but from the wording, the commercial and hotel parts of the tower are not meant to be divided ownership (of course, nothing prevents the buyer from turning the retail zones into retail condos, and the hotel zone into condotel rooms)

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Originally Posted by koops65 (Post 7676356)
The sale includes 211 hotel units, 74 condo units and most of the tower’s retail and commercial space, including the America restaurant on the 31st floor.


memph Jan 13, 2017 2:46 AM

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Originally Posted by vid (Post 7676376)
That sounds pretty cheap to me... Only $298 million for a building that size, on property that centrally located?

They would probably have been more successful if they weren't associated with an orange racist pig.

About $1m per condo/hotel room? Doesn't seem that cheap to me unless the units/rooms are very big and luxurious.

lio45 Jan 13, 2017 2:49 AM

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Originally Posted by memph (Post 7676474)
About $1m per condo/hotel room? Doesn't seem that cheap to me unless the units/rooms are very big and luxurious.

"... and most of the tower’s retail and commercial space, including the America restaurant on the 31st floor."

I don't know how much retail and commercial space there is in there, but obviously many millions' worth at the very minimum.


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