One component of diversity is the number of languages you hear on the street (although that's also an indicator of international tourism...).
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By the way, the Tenderloin is not heavily black. It’s mostly Asian and white. The black people you see on the streets don’t live there—they come from elsewhere to sell drugs. The traditional black neighborhoods are the Fillmore (a subpart of the Western Addition) and Bayview—Hunters Point. In the former much of the older rundown (and therefore lower cost) housing was torn down decades ago so the remaining black residents live in public housing. In the latter there are also huge and dangerous housing projects but also the city’s residual working class black population. |
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Where was the best place for tea leaf salad in that town you lived in in Arkansas? How many people turned out this year for the Chinese New Year parade in Norfolk? When was the last time you went to a Gujarati wedding? Obviously, these things may not interest you, and that's perfectly fine. But to answer your question of why others are interested in diversity, I think there's a decent amount of people that find it boring to be around others just like them, or the same group of people, all the time. |
While I'm not opposed to living amongst different people, I also don't see the draw to living in the Mos Eisley Cantina either. I like having a sense of community and local culture built over decades or centuries. If you don't have any clue who you are interacting with and their complex backgrounds need constant explanation, you ain't at home--you are at an airport or college campus.
Toronto is a good example of what I'm talking about. Great city but it isn't more interesting than less diverse cities in my opinion. Ask someone from Toronto about why their city is great and they'll tell you about the international cuisine and culture. That is great but what does it tell you about the unique local flavor? Contrast that to Montreal or New Orleans. I feel you would be getting a more unique city experience there because those cities are invested in their past and its locals rather than people who literally just got off the plane. I think most American cities have enough to offer in terms of diversity, even medium-sized ones. Anything more just becomes a dick measuring contest by white yuppies determining who has the most interesting brown people culture. See how ridiculous that sounds? I prefer a place more comfortable in itself than a place that needs outsiders to make the quality of life interesting. |
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They're least present in the most homogeneous geographies- exurban and rural America. They're most present in places like NYC, DC, LA and Bay Area, all regions with majority minority populations. Also, I don't understand this thread. The Bay Area is obviously diverse. No, it doesn't have a huge black population, same as everywhere in the western U.S., but has everything else. |
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And my issue was more with the implication of hypocrisy. It isn't like you need to live in a crumbling housing project or a trailer park to care about economic inequality or social justice. |
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And, yeah, you were implying hypocrisy among liberal whites. A liberal white in Brooklyn or SF would basically have to move to a housing project to live in an exclusively nonwhite milieu within same geography. |
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There's a giant housing project two blocks from 15 Central Park West, a building full of billionaires. |
I can tell you about the Bay area. I lived in the Fillmore for many years before moving to Austin (which is very liberal and very white). Due to gentrification of the the whole of San Francisco, there is a tiny fraction of blacks in the Fillmore and also a slightly larger percentage in Bayview-Hunters Point. They only allow these so they can say they're diverse. Most blacks and Hispanics tend to live in the hinterlands of Richmond, Hayward, Pittsburg, Antioch and beyond.
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San Francisco (for certain) and The Bay Area largely isn't. Nice try, though. |
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I knew the outcome of the thread before I even opened it. The lone conservatives like 'Jtown,man' will be the first one to pounce on any threads with trigger words "diversity", then left-leaning ssp will descend onto the thread to challenge him and the entire thread turns into a shitfest. And of course, you will never read a thread a thread like this without seeing Tokyo brought up (by a conservative).
Just lock the thread already. It's so exhausting now. |
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This type of person watches Jeremy Lin play 5 minutes in the 4th quarter of an NBA game, and says "The NBA is obviously full of Taiwanese-American Harvard graduates from Palo Alto". :rolleyes: |
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You claimed the Bay Area wasn't diverse, which is obviously nonsense; it's one of the most diverse places on earth. It really only underperforms in terms of blacks, but its black % is comparable to London and Toronto, and much higher than Frankfurt and Vancouver, and no one would argue these are homogeneous cities. |
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In my building, there are 12 units, and they are comprised of... me (Filipino) and my partner (white); my white apartment manager and his Filipina wife; a white lady upstairs from him; a white lady across from her; a young Latino family husband/wife/2 very small boys (of which the husband is very hot); a retired old black couple; a 40-something Latina; a young Korean family with two kids (the husband/wife are rude); a 20-something couple white guy/Korean chick who are the unfriendliest in the building... they both have Biola University Alumni license plate frames, so I think that explains it; an Italian-American girl; a young white couple; a white guy/Filipina chick couple. |
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