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statbass Mar 13, 2012 9:41 PM

[St. John's] Henry-Bell Condo Complex | 10- & 8-floors U/C | 1X25-30m Proposed
 
Henry Bell Developments Proposal - Henry Street - Duckworth Street (Marconi & Mirador).

The project will have a total of 90 units and a five-level parking garage which will have about 400 parking stalls.
It includes the renovation and expansion of the former CBC-Capitol Theatre Building, and is expected to cost in excess of $33 million.

http://www.pbase.com/image/128571789.jpg

Source & Article: The Telegram, Courtesy of the City of St.John's - http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Loca...Size-matters/1
More Photos: http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Loca...Size-matters/1


Mix - 345-347 Duckworth Street, Redevelopment of former Newfoundland Telephone Building
The existing building will be redeveloped in a mixed use development. Three floors will be added to the east section, one floor and a new section on the west. The height will be 8 stories, about 25 meters from Duckworth, and 10 stories, about 30m, from McBrides Hill.

http://www.pbase.com/image/141783459.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/142071406.jpg

Source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfou...pment-223.html

LUAR (Henry-Bell): http://www.stjohns.ca/pdfs/Land%20Us...evelopment.pdf

LUAR (NL Telephone):http://www.stjohns.ca/pdfs/AirPhotoS...neAnalysis.pdf

Marty_Mcfly Mar 14, 2012 2:27 AM

I really with the Mix wasn't the last development in the trio: that building needs to be redeveloped NOW. I'd almost wish it'd burn down right now, but if that were to happen, any new development on the site would be restricted to 4 floors.

Architype Mar 14, 2012 6:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly (Post 5626636)
I really with the Mix wasn't the last development in the trio: that building needs to be redeveloped NOW. I'd almost wish it'd burn down right now, but if that were to happen, any new development on the site would be restricted to 4 floors.

I hope it doesn't burn down, at any rate it will really have to be gutted, and will look like all new in the end.

The star of The Sea is just across on Henry Street, it's almost a part of this too, [the Manga site says it will add another 100 units], although the LUAR states 54 units.

That should bring the total units in this area close to 250 if not more.

http://www.pbase.com/image/142071406.jpg
Mix - Rear View
Source: http://www.stjohns.ca/pdfs/Land%20Us...evelopment.pdf

statbass Mar 14, 2012 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Architype (Post 5626890)
I hope it doesn't burn down, at any rate it will really have to be gutted, and will look like all new in the end.

The star of The Sea is just across on Henry Street, it's almost a part of this too, [the Manga site says it will add another 100 units], although the LUAR states 54 units.

That should bring the total units in this area close to 250 if not more.]

There will be quite a bit of density in that area once these projects get developed. With the hotel/condo proposal at the old Crazy Horse site - I think this may end up being my favorite part of downtown :D

Note: I just added the rear view of the Mix building to the first post.

Ayreonaut Mar 14, 2012 5:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly (Post 5626636)
I really with the Mix wasn't the last development in the trio: that building needs to be redeveloped NOW. I'd almost wish it'd burn down right now, but if that were to happen, any new development on the site would be restricted to 4 floors.

If I had to pick one development in the city that I am most interested in, there's no doubt it's this one. That stretch of Duckworth is rather ugly.

PoscStudent Mar 14, 2012 5:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayreonaut (Post 5627391)
If I had to pick one development in the city that I am most interested in, there's no doubt it's this one. That stretch of Duckworth is rather ugly.

It's not just ugly it's quite sketchy to walk through.

upnotout Mar 15, 2012 2:23 AM

I was on the 7th floor of Atlantic Place today and the boardroom has a great view of the CBC development. The hole they've dug is absolutely monstrous.

I'm definitely most interested in the MIX development. Based on these drawings, it could be one of the most interesting developments in St. John's. This is a fairly complex development aesthetically, with the three separate sections. I just hope that they don't start cutting costs here and there until it's just another run of the mill development. Is there anything in place to keep companies from getting approval based on a certain proposal, only to make aesthetic changes later on?

I really think that developments such as this one, the Fortis Building, and the Job Street development are really setting a high standard for architecture in the city. Look how quickly the Garden Inn was shut down. It sends the message that if you're going to come to St. John's looking to build, you'd better come with a well-conceived plan.

PoscStudent Mar 15, 2012 3:45 AM

I don't know what the city can do after the fact but proposals are approved based on their designs, particularly in the heritage district.

Trend CJ Mar 16, 2012 1:14 AM

This project currently seems stalled. Anyone know why? They dug a big hole and have an excavator there but haven't been on site in a month or more.

Architype Mar 16, 2012 5:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trend CJ (Post 5629210)
This project currently seems stalled. Anyone know why? They dug a big hole and have an excavator there but haven't been on site in a month or more.

I wouldn't expect things too fast; it's Newfoundland 2012, not New York 1931 where it took only 13½ months to build the Empire State Building. The planning process alone today seems to take several years. (I mean that in a joking way, not as a rebuff :) )

Marty_Mcfly Mar 17, 2012 2:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trend CJ (Post 5629210)
This project currently seems stalled. Anyone know why? They dug a big hole and have an excavator there but haven't been on site in a month or more.

There's not really a whole lot you can do during the winter: if you don't have things in the ground before everything freezes, work practically stops until spring. As for the old CBC building, everything's gutted inside the building, but the fire that was there may have set that back a little. I wouldn't worry at this point though, winter is usually a slow season for groundbreaking development.

techie Mar 19, 2012 9:07 PM

I'm under the impression that they've run into trouble with the excavation as it relates to the street above. I believe they are trying to figure out how to shore things up before continuing.

Copes Mar 27, 2012 4:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayreonaut (Post 5627391)
If I had to pick one development in the city that I am most interested in, there's no doubt it's this one. That stretch of Duckworth is rather ugly.

Truth. I've been waiting years for something to happen here. Every time I walk past it I get angry its taken so long. Thank god that SOMETHING is under way. I'd love to be working for Henry Bell on this project.

statbass Apr 14, 2012 8:13 PM

A bump for this thread. Does anyone know if anything has been done lately? Last I heard excavating for the parking garage and internal demo for the NL telephone building (aka Mix) was underway.

Chadillaccc Apr 15, 2012 5:17 AM

oh wow thats huge! Didn't realize both of these developments were already UC! Holy crap!

Ayreonaut Apr 15, 2012 4:42 PM

I walked past yesterday (and, well, most days), but completely forgot to check anything out. :doh:

PoscStudent Apr 22, 2012 8:25 PM

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/a...t/IMG_0563.jpg

statbass Apr 22, 2012 10:57 PM

It seems not much has been completed as of late. I guess they're still having issues with excavating the site. Hopefully we'll see some progress in the upcoming weeks.

techie Apr 23, 2012 12:31 AM

There's a drill rig on site now. I'm going to guess that's to anchor the piles that will shore up the excavation.

PoscStudent May 1, 2012 11:01 PM

Land Use Assessment Report for the Telephone Building!

http://www.stjohns.ca/pdfs/AirPhotoS...neAnalysis.pdf


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