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scalziand Jan 20, 2013 8:55 PM

CHONGQING | Jialing Fanying International Commerce Center | 1,535FT / 469M | 99 FL
 
Diagram Page:
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=27601

CTBUH Page:
http://skyscrapercenter.com/chongqin...-center-1/148/

SSC Thread:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=455805

Gaoloumi Thread:
http://www.gaoloumi.com/viewthread.p...age%3D1&page=1

http://skyscrapercenter.com/class-im...TGroup%7E0.jpg
http://skyscrapercenter.com/chongqin...-center-1/148/

Construction progress:

11-12:
http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/8161/91741489.jpg
phm68634117

12-12:
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9702/24844007.jpg
boss

1-13:
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...psbfd80fe7.jpg
了了哥哥

babybackribs2314 Jan 20, 2013 9:18 PM

Wow. You don't often see 1,500'+ buildings with such brazen lack of architectural thought. China may have several dozen 1,000'+ buildings rising but the overall quality of the architecture is sorely lacking. You would think that flagship buildings deserve stellar designs... if this even gets built, that is.

scalziand Jan 21, 2013 12:06 AM

I think the current design is still better than what was originally proposed- a giant hand.

Well, it still looks a tiny bit like a hand- the lower setback would be the thumb and the higher part would be the fingers; it's just been made somewhat abstract. The original design had actual fingers.

http://imageshack.us/a/img92/7691/ci...wtellaklo4.jpg

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giallo Jan 21, 2013 9:48 AM

The glazing looks pretty stellar to me (at least in the SSC renderings), and I don't think the design looks bad. It's not insanely-innovative or anything, but the shape's ok.

As far as China's supertalls go, the ones that have been built recently in GZ, SZ, TJ and SH are all above average to spectacular. Guangzhou's supertall stock is very impressive, and so is Shanghai's. Sorely-lacking is not a phrase that comes to my mind.

NYguy Jan 21, 2013 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scalziand (Post 5981169)
I think the current design is still better than what was originally proposed- a giant hand.


They should have built the giant "hand", lol. It's more interesting than that current rendering.

Crawford Jan 21, 2013 7:33 PM

I don't think the design is that bad; the problem, to me, is the setting.

What is the point of a suburban supertall? If you build a giant tower in the middle of a park/campus environment, you lose the whole appeal, at least to my liking.

I guess I'm more of an urbanist nerd than a skyscraper nerd, becuase these types of towers do nothing for me. There's no context whatsoever. It could be off a highway exit in Texas, or in Dubai, or on the face of the Moon for that matter.

NYguy Jan 21, 2013 7:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 5982075)
I guess I'm more of an urbanist nerd than a skyscraper nerd, becuase these types of towers do nothing for me. There's no context whatsoever. It could be off a highway exit in Texas, or in Dubai, or on the face of the Moon for that matter.

I always say that, towers built in such locations may as well be on the moon. It could be two miles tall, and I really wouldn't care. I know a lot of skyscrapers are built outside of cities, but for me skyscrapers represent cities. They are best when joined together to form a skyline, which is usually how we envision cities.

But, if they insist on buildiing such towers, designs could make them more interesting. This one just doesn't cut it for such a tall building.



hunser Jan 21, 2013 7:50 PM

^ I have to agree there. So many Chinese supertalls are being built on huge plots where a large plaza (or greenery!) surrounds them. Even in superdense Hong Kong the ICC is far from the urban area.

It's really a pity, because some Chinese towers tend to have a great design. In fact I love the Ping An in Shenzen or the CTF in Guangzhou.

giallo Jan 22, 2013 1:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 5982075)
I don't think the design is that bad; the problem, to me, is the setting.

What is the point of a suburban supertall? If you build a giant tower in the middle of a park/campus environment, you lose the whole appeal, at least to my liking.

I guess I'm more of an urbanist nerd than a skyscraper nerd, becuase these types of towers do nothing for me. There's no context whatsoever. It could be off a highway exit in Texas, or in Dubai, or on the face of the Moon for that matter.

That I can agree with.
I'm sure there's some master-planned office/residential/retail district to be built around these supertalls, but yeah, it's really awkward-looking having them surrounded by empty green space.

MolsonExport Jan 28, 2013 1:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 5982075)
I don't think the design is that bad; the problem, to me, is the setting.

What is the point of a suburban supertall? If you build a giant tower in the middle of a park/campus environment, you lose the whole appeal, at least to my liking.

I guess I'm more of an urbanist nerd than a skyscraper nerd, becuase these types of towers do nothing for me. There's no context whatsoever. It could be off a highway exit in Texas, or in Dubai, or on the face of the Moon for that matter.

You're darned tootin'!
:tup:

scalziand Jun 26, 2013 2:35 AM

http://imageshack.us/a/img46/8626/0n0f.jpg
Classic023

Design-mind Jun 26, 2013 2:51 PM

Is this from one crane crashing into the other or is it from weather or overload?

scalziand Jun 26, 2013 4:08 PM

No idea. To be honest, I didn't even notice that the crane was down when I posted that picture.:runaway:

scalziand Feb 24, 2014 6:02 PM

Hints of activity on the site again.
http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/7159dd...218g0xcgza.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=328

Perklol Feb 27, 2014 6:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scalziand (Post 6177886)

Is there a smog problem in this town??

toxteth o'grady Mar 6, 2014 2:30 AM

There's a smog problem in the whole country.

And they think they're going to use drones to eat it.:slob:

mt_climber13 Mar 6, 2014 3:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babybackribs2314 (Post 5981013)
Wow. You don't often see 1,500'+ buildings with such brazen lack of architectural thought. China may have several dozen 1,000'+ buildings rising but the overall quality of the architecture is sorely lacking. You would think that flagship buildings deserve stellar designs... if this even gets built, that is.

1500' is the new 500'.

toxteth o'grady Mar 6, 2014 2:29 PM

I don't think they're building it so much as doing a cut-and-paste of the tower in Guangzhou.

scalziand Mar 27, 2014 3:18 PM

http://i.imgur.com/yJ5PVYe.jpg
爱上长徽龙君

Fabb Mar 29, 2014 7:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6481388)
I don't think they're building it so much as doing a cut-and-paste of the tower in Guangzhou.

Right.
Only Guangzhou's IFC looks much better with its X-bracing and semi-transparent cladding.
This one is just boring and seems half as tall as it really is.


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