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JMKeynes Feb 21, 2018 3:25 PM

NEW YORK | 270 Park Ave | 1,425 FT | 70 FLOORS | DEMO
 
Only in New York!

This is why it's called "The City"!

https://therealdeal.com/2018/02/21/j...massive-tower/

tdawg Feb 21, 2018 3:27 PM

Jinx! Can't wait for renderings.

vandelay Feb 21, 2018 3:32 PM

Let's hope it's something that suits that august address.

DrNest Feb 21, 2018 3:34 PM

That's exciting news. I look forward to seeing some renderings for this project when they're available.

Steely Dan Feb 21, 2018 3:41 PM

it seems a little kooky that they would tear down a 52 story tower only to rebuild a 70 story tower on the site.

that's an awful lot of money and trouble for 18 additional floors.

tdawg Feb 21, 2018 3:44 PM

Thanks mods for fixing my post. It's not really odd when you consider that the new tower will be 500 feet taller and offer an additional 1 million square feet (2.5 million total).

Steely Dan Feb 21, 2018 3:49 PM

also, at 707' tall, i believe the current chase HQ tower would be the tallest skyscraper ever voluntarily demolished in the history of our world.


(obviously the WTC twins were much taller, but that was hardly a voluntary demolition)

Kumdogmillionaire Feb 21, 2018 3:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 8093296)
it seem a little kooky that they would tear down a 52 story tower only to rebuild a 70 story tower on the site.

that's an awful lot of money and trouble for 18 additional floors.

Yeah, for a financial institution this is comical. Just adds more fuel to the fire of hatred towards bankers and billionaires... This is frivolous.... whatevs, should be fun to watch

chris08876 Feb 21, 2018 3:50 PM

This rezoning is going to skyrocket the amount of potential super talls.

Although you'd think they would just stack it atop of the existing tower.

Busy Bee Feb 21, 2018 4:03 PM

This is fantastic but it has to be the first case of such a solid quality albeit banal modernist box of this height to be taken down anywhere ever. Crazy

jackster99 Feb 21, 2018 4:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 8093314)
This rezoning is going to skyrocket the amount of potential super talls.

Although you'd think they would just stack it atop of the existing tower.

^I think its entirely possible that is what they are doing, and the author of the article just misunderstood/his source was misinformed.

If I recall correctly, when the news first broke about 425 Park Avenue, and even in later articles, that was also referred to as a demolition.

NOPA Feb 21, 2018 4:10 PM

This is definitely not the first development under the Midtown Rast rexoning I expected!

The current 1961 Skidmore, Owings & Merrill tower is handsome enough as is. If the new tower were to be 1,500+ I wouldn’t be surprised, however to tear down a 700 fitter to add just 18 floors is kind of crazy?

Let’s hope the design is A+

chris08876 Feb 21, 2018 4:12 PM

Yeah I'm hoping its just an error or misinterpretation because just from a cost perspective it would skyrocket the costs. The building itself does its function well. If anything, a conversion to more suitable Class-A space, stacking atop, and renovation/fixing up legacy components would seem suitable. Maybe even a recladd. It could be done.

Unless its cheaper to just demo it and start fresh? IDK what the cost would be for a conversion, but damn, it'll really add to the hard costs starting fresh.

Plus, I wonder what would happen to those existing employees. A renovation/addition seems more likely, because where would they relocate 6000 employees anyways.

Busy Bee Feb 21, 2018 4:15 PM

This is gonna totally short dick Bear Stearns next door. Strategy?:haha:

TonyNYC Feb 21, 2018 4:18 PM

Although you'd think they would just stack it atop of the existing tower.
^I think its entirely possible that is what they are doing, and the author of the article just misunderstood/his source was misinformed.

If I recall correctly, when the news first broke about 425 Park Avenue, and even in later articles, that was also referred to as a demolition.



It could be but it's probably easier to have a complete tear down and go with something entirely new then to do what they did at 425 Park. At 425 Park , they tore it down to it's bones and started from there.. limiting it's options going forward in design and build.

The Singer building(612FT) held the title of tallest buildings ever voluntarily torn down.. 277 Park will be come the title holder very soon!

Within a decade or so.. Midtown East is gonna rival any business district in the world with supertalls! Gonna be fun to watch it transform starting with 1 Vanderbilt and 277 Park. BTW- 277 Park at 1200FT not enough for me.. hoping it reaches closer to 1400-1500Ft!!

yankeesfan1000 Feb 21, 2018 4:19 PM

I would not expect this to be a full tear down. The time frame given is five years, assuming that's correct, this will be some sort of 425 Park Ave situation, where it's a partial demo.

Sort of sad, this is one of the best international style buildings in the city. Somewhat related, the building diagonally across the street is for sale and is from a similar era I expect that to get redveloped soon as well.

Zerton Feb 21, 2018 4:55 PM

I like the current black modernist building. Hopefully they are adding to the existing building rather than tearing it all down.

ardecila Feb 21, 2018 4:58 PM

Worth noting that the building includes a ten-story midrise annex along Madison Avenue that could be torn down, and the existing tower is a pretty flexible Modernist box.

Lots of possibilities to add onto the existing building or reconfigure it (not just stacking more floors on top) to add a ton of SF.

HomeInMyShoes Feb 21, 2018 5:05 PM

700 foot demolition is not an everyday event. Super cool from a logistics and planning
perspective.

JMKeynes Feb 21, 2018 5:15 PM

Another day, another super tall for the

Greatest City in the World!!!!


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