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llamaorama Sep 30, 2019 2:45 AM

Most liberal cheap/affordable cities?
 
See title.

I would say Minneapolis or Madison.

Sun Belt Sep 30, 2019 3:29 AM

Wouldn't just about every midwestern city fit the requirements of your question?

SIGSEGV Sep 30, 2019 4:15 AM

Lots of college towns probably...

Crawford Sep 30, 2019 10:55 AM

Are college towns that cheap? Ann Arbor is extremely expensive for Midwest standards.

dc_denizen Sep 30, 2019 11:37 AM

Yellow springs, oh

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2...34183121_zpid/

Sun Belt Sep 30, 2019 1:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 8702196)
Are college towns that cheap? Ann Arbor is extremely expensive for Midwest standards.

True. The college towns I've lived in all had elevated housing prices compared to the surrounding cities in their region.

photoLith Sep 30, 2019 1:16 PM

My rent in Oakland, Pittsburgh is 475 a month. Oakland is the student ghetto basically of Carnegie Mellon, university of Pittsburgh, etc. it's probably the cheapest urban non bombed out neighborhood in the city. So Pittsburgh is still pretty affordable I'd say but I've always found cheap shit apartments to live in. I like saving money so i can travel all the time so don't mind living in a craphole.

SIGSEGV Sep 30, 2019 1:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Belt (Post 8702241)
True. The college towns I've lived in all had elevated housing prices compared to the surrounding cities in their region.

Yes, they're expensive relative to podunk places. And some have fucked up housing markets (like Ithaca). But they're cheap compared to bigger places with comparable quality of life.

iheartthed Sep 30, 2019 3:28 PM

How are we defining "liberal"? I would be surprised if any big city in the Midwest, except maybe Columbus and Indianapolis, is not overwhelmingly Democratic.

pj3000 Sep 30, 2019 3:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dc_denizen (Post 8702207)
Yellow springs, oh

Yellow Springs, Ohio might be liberal, but it isn't all that cheap.

If you're seeking liberal AND cheap, then Golden Showers, Pennsylvania is where it's at.

BnaBreaker Sep 30, 2019 6:32 PM

Maybe Lawrence, Kansas?

JManc Sep 30, 2019 6:40 PM

Small College towns are fun if you're under 30. Other than that, I always thought Chicago is pretty damn affordable (to rent) for a huge city that still highly progressive/ liberal. It's pretty much on par with Houston with cost-of-living-wise.

sopas ej Sep 30, 2019 7:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pj3000 (Post 8702412)
yellow springs, ohio might be liberal, but it isn't all that cheap.

If you're seeking liberal and cheap, then golden showers, pennsylvania is where it's at.

lol!

Sun Belt Sep 30, 2019 8:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JManc (Post 8702665)
Small College towns are fun if you're under 30. Other than that, I always thought Chicago is pretty damn affordable (to rent) for a huge city that still highly progressive/ liberal. It's pretty much on par with Houston with cost-of-living-wise.

I thought the exact same. I still cannot believe the pricing I saw in March, in one of the most desirable residential districts within walking distance to the El.

I kept saying, don't they realize what they could actually get?! Then I was like, oh yeah, it's Chicago and it's 28 degrees in March, yeah I'd rather live in Florida for the same price and with lower taxes.

Even with that said, I was/am seriously considering a move to the very windy and frigid city of Chicago.

Sun Belt Sep 30, 2019 8:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pj3000 (Post 8702412)
If you're seeking liberal AND cheap, then Golden Showers, Pennsylvania is where it's at.

That's a nice area, however, I prefer the greater Dezinformatsiya, PA area. The green tree covered hillsides next to the abandoned mills and churches is beautiful.

Steely Dan Sep 30, 2019 8:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Belt (Post 8702804)
it's Chicago and it's 28 degrees in March

the average overnight low temp in chicago in march is 31 degrees.

the average daytime high at that time of year is a balmy 47 degrees.

which i understand still sounds fucking polar to a southern californian, but chicago's winter weather is cold enough as it is, there's no need to exaggerate it.

Sun Belt Sep 30, 2019 8:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SIGSEGV (Post 8702275)
Yes, they're expensive relative to podunk places. And some have fucked up housing markets (like Ithaca). But they're cheap compared to bigger places with comparable quality of life.

Not just "podunk places", they're elevated even in elite places.

Sun Belt Sep 30, 2019 8:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 8702822)
the average overnight low temp in chicago in march is 31 degrees.

the average daytime high at that time of year is a balmy 47 degrees.

which i understand still sounds fucking polar to a southern californian, but chicago's winter weather is cold enough as it is, there's no need to exaggerate it.

I'm not exaggerating it. Those were the actual daytime temps when I was there in March, 2018.

I know it was an abnormally cold snap, [which I loved to be honest]. I'd rather it be super cold, flurries, than some wishy/washy, cold but not enjoyable drizzle nonsense.

Steely Dan Sep 30, 2019 8:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sun Belt (Post 8702840)
I'm not exaggerating it. Those were the actual daytime temps when I was there in March, 2018.

I know it was an abnormally cold snap, [which I loved to be honest].

oh, i didn't realize you were speaking of a one-off experience.

yes, we can and do get winter-like cold snaps in march from time to time, but that's not the normal.

on the other side of the coin, we can also be in the 60s in march during a warm spell, but again not the the normal.

Sun Belt Sep 30, 2019 8:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan (Post 8702843)
oh, i didn't realize you were speaking of a one-off experience.

yes, we can and do get winter-like cold snaps in march from time to time, but that's not the normal.

on the other side of the coin, we can also be in the 60s in march during a warm spell, but again not the the normal.

Yeah it was one time experience on a leisure trip to Chicago. I've been there a few times before, but never once on leisure.

This time, was the first time I specifically went there to take in and enjoy the city of Chicago. It was cold, grey, windy and I loved it, but that's coming from perfect weather most of the year.

Like I said, I went out of my way on the trip to investigate pricing. I probably walked through your neighborhood, or somewhat close to it. Took the Red Line and walked back to the Loop, while my cheeks froze off.


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