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Wilcal Feb 25, 2016 9:59 PM

[QUOTE=blackcat23;7349055]Proposed Convention Center Hotel will feature 40-story and 28-story towers

1,100 guest rooms, 20,000 sq. ft. of retail. Architect is Gensler, developer is the Lighthouse Group.

Does the "small commercial" building mean the one which houses Hooters? If so, the building was okay (too bad), the occupants, not so much. Good riddance to them.

King Kill 'em Feb 25, 2016 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DistrictDirt (Post 7348725)
How old is he? He has to retire at some point.

or die. :shrug:

King Kill 'em Feb 25, 2016 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChargerCarl (Post 7348778)
>implying all developers aren't driven by money

Well all developers need to make money but most aren't in it solely for the money I'd say. He of course is, but most at least care that what they're putting out improves a community. "Greedy Developers" like Palmer make all developers look bad and give misinformed suburban NIMBYs an mental image of a Bond villain when they here the word "developer".

colemonkee Feb 25, 2016 10:32 PM

Another Gensler designed tower, huh? I hope they change things up a bit. Don't really want to see another Metropolis re-hash. Would love to see some of the texture treatments they displayed in the Paul Hastings underground retail area for a while last year.

ConstructDTLA Feb 25, 2016 10:50 PM

Updated my list, current as of today.

Have anything else to add or change?

Edit:

Removed & Added to next post.

King Kill 'em Feb 25, 2016 10:58 PM

Stationer's Tower was cancelled? NOOOOOOO!!!

Also, has anyone pointed out that you have Frankentower 1 as breaking ground 1/2015 instead of 1/2016

ConstructDTLA Feb 25, 2016 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by King Kill 'em (Post 7349259)
Stationer's Tower was cancelled? NOOOOOOO!!!

Also, has anyone pointed out that you have Frankentower 1 as breaking ground 1/2015 instead of 1/2016


Thanks for pointing that out! :cheers:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1526/...d795d549_b.jpg

King Kill 'em Feb 26, 2016 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by blackcat23 (Post 7348641)
http://urbanize.la/post/geoff-palmer...ments-revealed

First glimpse of Ferrante, Geoff Palmer's 1,500-unit project across the freeway from Da Vinci.

http://urbanize.la/sites/default/fil...?itok=d1toy1kf

Video Link

Valyrian Steel Feb 26, 2016 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by blackcat23 (Post 7348641)
http://urbanize.la/post/geoff-palmer...ments-revealed

First glimpse of Ferrante, Geoff Palmer's 1,500-unit project across the freeway from Da Vinci.

http://libertynews.com/wp-content/up...-with-fire.jpg

ninjaz Feb 26, 2016 2:44 AM

For goodness sake, can these Palmer projects be stopped? Ugh

ChelseaFC Feb 26, 2016 2:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilcal (Post 7349152)
Does the "small commercial" building mean the one which houses Hooters? If so, the building was okay (too bad), the occupants, not so much. Good riddance to them.

I was wondering the same thing. That's the only 'small commercial building' on that parcel, but the aerial map in the article wasn't updated to include it within the project boundary.

NativeOrange Feb 26, 2016 4:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ChelseaFC (Post 7349477)
I was wondering the same thing. That's the only 'small commercial building' on that parcel, but the aerial map in the article wasn't updated to include it within the project boundary.

Looking at the initial motion linked on Urbanized first article, it states that the project would be developed on three parcels. The LA County site shows that the parking lot is 2 parcels, while the Hooters is the third. Everything else on this block is taken up by Circa and that tiny side street to Hooters.

So I think it's pretty safe to say that it was a slight error on Urbanized.LA's part.

http://clkrep.lacity.org/onlinedocs/...01-19-2016.pdf

^First sentence in the third paragraph.

DJM19 Feb 26, 2016 6:39 AM

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Originally Posted by King Kill 'em (Post 7349259)
Stationer's Tower was cancelled? NOOOOOOO!!!

Also, has anyone pointed out that you have Frankentower 1 as breaking ground 1/2015 instead of 1/2016

Apparently the city did not like the design in the context of the existing historic buildings.

LosAngelesSportsFan Feb 26, 2016 6:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DJM19 (Post 7349621)
Apparently the city did not like the design in the context of the existing historic buildings.

Not the city, one person

Mojeda101 Feb 26, 2016 7:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LosAngelesSportsFan (Post 7349631)
Not the city, one person

I find it hard to believe one man would be able to stop a project that would be over a hundred million in costs and would generate a profit in the millions. He never intended to build it and was simply a cry for attention for someone to buy the lot. I called it two years ago and It's been quoted on SSC :cool:

Basically someone from C garage of Historic Districts thought the first 10 floors of the Stationers building believe it should somewhat resemble the urban canyon art deco theme it has always had. Personally I wouldn't care either way. I'm all for diversity in the historic core. NYC does it, Chicago does it, Philadelphia, Boston, detroit, etc... They all do it. Why can't we?

Resident Feb 26, 2016 7:57 AM

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Originally Posted by King Kill 'em (Post 7349259)
Stationer's Tower was cancelled? NOOOOOOO!!!

It's not dead, and it is a real project.

As it stands it is being held up because a certain person in the Historic department of the planning department feels that the lower 10 floors should look like the adjacent buildings. The tower will either proceed with the changed lower floor or certain people can be convinced that it should be built how it is planned now.

Easy Feb 26, 2016 8:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Resident (Post 7349656)
It's not dead, and it is a real project.

As it stands it is being held up because a certain person in the Historic department of the planning department feels that the lower 10 floors should look like the adjacent buildings. The tower will either proceed with the changed lower floor or certain people can be convinced that it should be built how it is planned now.

Many of the people on this forum have advocated for a city commission that would ensure that projects meet certain architectural standards (to stop Palmer and TCA). This is just a small taste of how such a commission would bog down the already overly cumbersome process of getting things built.

black_crow Feb 26, 2016 8:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Resident (Post 7349656)
It's not dead, and it is a real project.

As it stands it is being held up because a certain person in the Historic department of the planning department feels that the lower 10 floors should look like the adjacent buildings. The tower will either proceed with the changed lower floor or certain people can be convinced that it should be built how it is planned now.

Ok, that doesn't sound like cancelled at all.

Thank you for the update.

Easy Feb 26, 2016 9:52 AM

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Originally Posted by black_crow (Post 7349668)
Ok, that doesn't sound like cancelled at all.

Thank you for the update.

It sounds like Hellen submitted a plan that was rejected. He is not revising his plan nor resubmitting the old plan so the city has nothing to approve or disapprove. Sounds pretty dead to me.

Easy Feb 26, 2016 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Resident (Post 7349683)
It sounds like you don't know what you are talking about and making all kinds of wrong assumptions (the kind of thing that made me create an account).

I mean, you are literally saying someone who stated something quite definitively with information above is wrong and then pulling things out of your a**......

Don't get mad at me or blame SSP. This is in the latest DTNews update update:

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SPRING STREET APARTMENTS: Plans from developer Joseph Hellen for a 40-story residential tower at 525 S. Spring St. have stalled following disagreements between Hellen and the city on the high-rise’s design. The Historic Core structure would have had about 360 one- to three-bedroom residences, but its sleek, modern facade was a point of contention for the city Office of Historic Resources, said Simon Ha, a principal at Steinberg Architects who had been working on the project. Faced with the prospect of significant changes to implement more historical features into the design, Hellen has chosen not to move forward, Ha said. He added that it is unclear if Hellen will come back with a new design later. The plan also included the reactivation of three small theaters, the Roxie, Cameo and Arcade, that front Broadway.
http://m.ladowntownnews.com/developm....html?mode=jqm


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