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mousquet Apr 26, 2012 6:37 AM

PARIS | Duo | 115 & 175 m (377 & 574 ft) | 25 & 39 floors
 
This is part of the Paris Rive Gauche redevelopment plan, i.e. located in the area of the 13th arrondissement currently redeveloped. On the edge of the city.
http://www.lemoniteur.fr/155-projets...gauche-en-2018

Developers: Ivanhoé Cambridge / Hines
Design: Ateliers Jean Nouvel

A developer from Montreal, QC and another from Houston, TX in da same house, they would invest €500 to 600 mi in there.
  • 63,000 m² (678,000 sq ft) of offices
  • 15,000 m² (161,000 sq ft) for a hotel
  • 10,000 m² (107,000 sq ft) of 'activités' (?? whatever they mean by 'activities')
  • 2,000 m² (21,000 sq ft) of retail

More accurately, the project is in the Masséna-Bruneseau neighborhood that looks like nothing exciting for now, right there along the ring highway and those rail tracks.
Architect Yves Lion's firm is in charge of planning the redevelopment of Masséna-Bruneseau, this is promoting their work.

http://www.lefigaro.fr/assets/infogr...0202-paris.jpg

So the 'tour de bureaux de 180 m de hauteur' was standing for this project Duo, the design was still unknown back then. The 2 other buildings are residential, I think those 2 are correct renders.
Yves Lion's plan would specify 3 more highrises (designs not known yet) in that neighborhood, as shown by better renders on his site.

Oh, of course some unfriendly legal appeals are expected as well but the project is gladly supported by the local government, so it's likely to get built. Work is said to begin in early 2014, it would be completed in 2018 then.

Tom Servo Apr 26, 2012 7:38 AM

HELL YEAH! :tup:

RobertWalpole Apr 26, 2012 10:38 AM

Very cool!:cheers:

kingkirbythe.... Apr 26, 2012 12:16 PM

Like 'em.

Fabb Apr 26, 2012 2:13 PM

The "black hat" on top of the lower building looks ridiculous.
Overall, the project doesn't look too bad, even though it's trying too much to be unconventional.

mousquet Jul 3, 2012 6:51 AM

In the end, with all respect due to Jean Nouvel, his laureate Duo somewhat appears awkward compared to Christian de Portzamparc's proposal for the same lot of Masséna-Bruneseau, at least given the renderings we've seen so far.
Make up your own opinion.
It's worth taking a look at the additional renderings in the article for more details of that nice design. It included some residential units at the top of a tower, above 2 hotels, whereas the 2nd tower was all offices.
The article says the socialist administration of Paris didn't like it, turning down the residential option in particular, while they constantly pretend crying over the oppressive lack of housing in metro Paris.

Minato Ku Aug 9, 2012 9:31 PM

Some pictures of mock-up of Duo towers.
Pictures taken by tristero

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8288/7...13c6517a_c.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8424/7...9f0f245b_c.jpg
Other high-rises are planned in the area
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8423/7...0bd96331_c.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8286/7...62d38943_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7262/7...a12bfdca_c.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8291/7...c865e5b3_c.jpg

mousquet Aug 10, 2012 11:21 AM

:stunned: Tristero posted 56 pics of that mock-up, that's the Paris Rive Gauche redevelopment area in the 13th arrondissement.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8431/7...75a509cc_b.jpg

You can see bobo Paris chose to remain a flat land, highrises are rejected along the Périphérique on the border with the adjacent suburb. Lots of those low-rises in the inner part of the redeveloped area are already built.
It's a little off-topic but since we got there, see the table at the top of the dedicated PSS thread if you're curious (click on that downward arrow button to fully extend the table). Blue squares are the completed buildings, maroon is U/C and green is approved/proposed projects. It's all modern low-rises, by far the biggest modern development within central Paris at the moment. There are some good original things, some others look disappointing.

easy as pie Nov 29, 2012 7:10 PM

for how long we've been hearing of the crise du logement in paris, it's fantastic finally to see some serious residential development beginning to take shape. demand being what it is, the city could easily absord 10,000 new units a year, if the politics would allow it. obviously, i guess, most/all new development will occur at the margins and the inner suburbs, so it's important that these projects go as tall and dense as politically possible.

mousquet Dec 8, 2014 10:29 PM

A better and likely more realistic rendering found by pss-archi Maza in a L'Obs telegram.

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/729492paris2.jpg

I like this project cause it's nearby these 2 residential midrises I recently advertised at the south-east end of the avenue de France that takes part in the Rive Gauche master plan, neighboring inner suburb Ivry-sur-Seine that I want to see better off.

It's along the rail tracks to the Austerlitz station and the ring freeway known as the périphérique segregating Central Paris from the inner suburbs, but the latter has simply no future while the essential Austerlitz rail tracks should end up covered with some brand new urban fabric.

This is nicely mixed-use. Some large office space (that area of metro Paris generally needs more of that), a 4-star business hotel and some supposedly affordable commercial space for people from the neighborhood at the ground floors, quite significant for the south-east side of the metro area. No luxury penthouses yet, for the local left wing keeps opposing that kind of things. :shrug: Well they just can't afford it, so they're naively sick with jealousy while they don't even have any serious reason to be jealous. That's what I can't understand to them. They actually have nothing much to envy to the richer, but they can't realize yet. :rolleyes:

I'm thankful to the Rive Gauche planners anyway. I think this will be built no matter what the local idiotic NIMBYs may try. It's too important. More highrises should join these. I hope Ivry takes the greatest possible advantage from this in the end.

mousquet Mar 8, 2015 8:03 PM

:) So, get ready for war once more, people. The most epic Parisian nimbys have been mobilizing their troops against these already.
See shadows casted over the city (according to their amazing propaganda).

http://paris.eelv.fr/files/2012/04/tours-geantes.png
Video Link


Holy crap, wow! Did you guys know? We're getting towers 5 miles tall over here! :awesome:

mousquet Nov 9, 2015 10:12 PM

Obligatory! The regular hostile legal appeal from local old farts who're taking this to court, trying to ruin this project, too.
That will teach you a bit of French, right? That's still good for you...

Quote:

Paris : nouveau recours contre les tours Duo

http://s3.lprs1.fr/images/2015/11/09...1780182c-1.jpg
Nichées dans un secteur industriel entre les voies ferrées d’Austerlitz, le périphérique et l’échangeur d’Ivry, les tours Duo culmineront à 122 et 180 m au sud-est de la capitale.

Il ne désarme pas. Patrice Maire, le président de l’association de défense du patrimoine Monts14, ne veut pas des tours de grande hauteur programmées autour de la capitale. Et il va à nouveau le rappeler à la municipalité qui soutient ces projets.

Le militant associatif devrait adresser ce mardi à la maire de Paris un «recours gracieux» pour contester le permis de construire accordé le mois dernier au dossier «Duo». Cet ensemble de deux tours asymétiques, de 122 et 180 m de haut, conçu par Jean Nouvel, doit voir le jour d’ici à 2020 dans le quartier Masséna (XIIIe) en limite de la ZAC Paris-Rive gauche.

Une autre procédure en cours

Comme d’autres associations, Monts14 avait déjà attaqué, dès 2011, la révision simplifiée du plan local d’urbanisme de la capitale autorisant certaines constructions de très grande hauteur (Duo, Triangle...). Déboutés par le tribunal administratif en première instance, les anti-tour ont déposé un appel, toujours à l’instruction.

«Cette fois, j’attaque le permis de construire lui-même. Parce qu’il a été délivré sur la base d’une enquête environnementale erronnée sur la visibilité réelle des tours, notamment dans la perspective du Panthéon», insiste Patrice Maire.

Ce nouveau recours n’inquiète visiblement pas le groupe Ivanhoë-Cambridge, promoteur du projet. Le groupe immobilier québécois vient d’ailleurs d’accélérer la prévente des bureaux des futures tours Duo dont la construction débutera mi-2016.
http://www.leparisien.fr/paris-75/pa...Fp%3D128459969

It says the developer, Canadian Ivanhoë-Cambridge wouldn't mind about the laughable NIMBYs on their harmful mission, and would even be selling the office space in there at faster rate. Construction is supposed to start by next summer. Mid 2016, they say.

mousquet Mar 7, 2016 11:54 AM

Woah, this should be pretty good.

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/62632398.png

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/92900073.png

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/45885994.png

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/82886188.png

If the neighboring suburb of Ivry is ok to follow the trend, I predict some cool further development.

I would suggest people to check on the new district for themselves on their next visit by the way. It's both modern and friendly with a bunch of café-restaurants and shops along the avenue de France, that's the main corridor of the district I'm calling a success cause it's been carefully planned. It's just too bad the height of the buildings had to remain that moderate on the avenue because of blind and enraged NIMBYism. They're getting a bit taller only at the very edge of the inner city where these 2 towers will sit, at the southern end of the avenue, nearby Ivry. Again, hopefully Ivry itself doesn't miss the given opportunity to build something bigger.

mousquet Oct 15, 2016 9:02 AM

I can't tell how helpful that kind of advertising videos can be, but this includes more renderings anyway.

Video Link


I usually don't pay attention to people in those videos, trying to guess what the building could eventually feel like in real life, but some would keep noting that almost everyone in there looks like some formatted dummy, which is dull and not really convincing... Assuming advertisers need to get better at their own job, communication.

LondonParis Oct 15, 2016 10:11 PM

Amazing !! Can't wait to see those scraping the sky of Paris !!

mousquet Oct 15, 2016 10:31 PM

^ Agreed, but they'll work really fine if and only if Ivry agrees on following this high-rise hint.
So I hope they don't act silly to the other side of the border. I mean of the périph.

There is "potential" for sure, as all over these suburbs. But I'd rather have more shiny buildings than just potential.

kickser Oct 16, 2016 7:27 AM

Amazing tower complex, it´s one of the modern designs that i really like. I like how the tops look like they are about to fall down every second. :)

LondonParis Oct 16, 2016 6:30 PM

Images from the video

http://www.autreimage.com/content/pr...Garden_red.jpg

http://www.autreimage.com/content/pr...HD_001_red.jpg

LondonParis Oct 16, 2016 6:33 PM

http://www.autreimage.com/content/pr...ccueil_red.jpg

http://www.autreimage.com/content/pr...alerie_red.jpg

http://www.autreimage.com/content/pr...vedere_red.jpg

Design-mind Oct 16, 2016 9:04 PM

With every new rendering this these towers are getting more awesome! Hold off the NIMBY's this is awesome!


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