SAN ANTONIO │ Encore Riverwalk │ 75 FEET | 5 FLOORS │ U/C
 

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Yas!

"Riverwalk" :haha:

Jokes aside, this is great news! Even without the retail this is definitely a good looking project (though the retail would be a huge bonus, of course). I'll be sad to see one of those old commercial buildings on the site go, but overall downtown comes out ahead.

It needs the retail for me to like it. Otherwise it's a place where a bunch of people drive in and out and never spend any time around it.

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Is this still the location of Encore, or is it going in next door where Heritage Plaza used to be??

Fencing is now up. That area of downtown is going to be busy with it's neighbor going up at the same time.

Groundbreaking ceremony to celebrate new Encore SoFlo residential development
 

WHEN: Wednesday, June 7, 9:30 a.m.

WHERE: Encore SoFlo 326 S. Flores St., San Antonio, TX 78204

(Site location is bordered by South Flores Street, Old Guilbeau Street, Main Avenue and Stumberg Street.)

FAA permit lists the height as 75 feet:

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...13912092&row=0

How is that possible? It's only 5 stories.

Parking lot is 6 and probably 12-13 feet for each floor, nvm.

Nice pdf with good renderings. Looks very modern, nice.

http://www.odenhughesllc.com/wp-cont...ings-SDSet.pdf

This should have had retail AT LEAST fronting Flores... that street is a little too busy for residential patios.

Other than that, it's great infill. :)

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Past by the site this morning. I don't know how to rotate the photo this is from my mobile. I'm new at this.
https://dl-mail.ymail.com/ws/downloa...vwvgV3QYEmzl84

I'm looking froward to seeing... something. :cheers:

I think that's still on your phone. You have to upload your photo to the internet first. You can use this website to host it for free. Select the BBcode copy link (for forums and message boards) to post it on the forum.

https://imgur.com/

Parking garage is going up.

[IMG]https://preview.ibb.co/iRxh0m/Construction.jpg[/IMG]

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Is this one going to include ground level retail from the get-go or is it just a possibility later down the road?
Also, isn't there a project that is also under construction just on the other side of S. Main from this project?

i don't see any indication of retail in the plans. Big mistake.

No retail was included in this one, stupidly. On such a busy street like Flores, you'd think they'd put retail there.

Yes.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=211650

A few photos I took when I drove by yesterday. Garage is up. They even had some people working on the site on a Sunday morning.


https://i.imgur.com/MOjr11q.jpg?1

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The Ken's Goodyear building at S. Flores and Chavez was torn down last Friday. The rest of that block is a surface lot. Anyone know of any plans for that block? I know it's not the HEB parking lot as that's a block over off of Dwyer Ave. [IMG]https://image.ibb.co/kETXp6/Capture.jpg[/IMG]

That's going to be a temporary parking lot for HEB while they build the garage. I'm hoping they turn that lot into something else. Retail. It would greatly benefit the area.

Cool, thanks! :tup:

Base of crane tower in place.

https://image.ibb.co/kFTGPG/Encore.jpg

Am I the only one who finds it a bit odd that this development is being called “Encore Riverwalk” when it’s, um, not on the Riverwalk?

Yes, you are the only one. (Just kidding)

That's quite a massive garage right there next to the Riverwalk.

I just looked at the plans on Page 1. This complex reminds me of an apartment complex I lived in in Austin in the late 80s (wow). It was a nice place to live as an upperclassman at UT, but it wasn't immediately walkable. You had to drive to go anywhere. So my point is that while these apartments will be nice for the residents (parking, pool, nice apartments I assume), they'll have to walk several blocks for any meaningful retail. If a few ground level retail fronts were included in the building, even one per side or corner, that would be four things like a diner, deli/store, cleaner and even a small bank branch or a Subway.

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The short crane is up.

https://s22.postimg.cc/rjt9k0z29/20180607_112918.jpg
A quick shot of how this project is progressing.

Whenever I go by here, I see that they’ve built a surface lot at the NE corner of Flores and Cesar Chavez, so just south of this new complex. Not sure if it’s related to this project or not.

I was hoping it was temporary, but it looks like they spent quite a bit of money on landscaping, and I doubt they’d do that just to tear it all down.

That new lot is for HEB workers as HEB builds it's new parking garage right to the east of the new parking lot. Hopefully once the parking garage is done HEB does something nice with the land they just built that new parking lot on.

Don't forget a small "locals" bar. Everyone loves a cool little bar!

Shhh! You're supposed to sneak the bar in after 60% of the units are filled. :cheers:

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There was a small strip center built at the entrance to my neighborhood last year and most of the long-time residents went crazy about it (in a bad way). Wife and I were happy as a Fuzzy's Tacos and a small bar opened up...within walking distance! Perfect!!! :cheers:

Bird Scooter Tour 6-23-2018
 

A few pics from my Bird Scooter Tour today.
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It has no retail, a surface level parking lot with an F-U fence, AND it removes a street. What a waste.

No street was removed and the parking lot is temporary and it’s an H-E-B parking lot, not the parking lot for this development. It is temporary as H-E-B cobstructes their new parking garage nearby.

Thank you for clearing this up sirkingwilliam:cheers:

The latter post is a fine example of people not finding out the FACTS FIRST, before spewing it out into social media. One wonders, is this how FAKE NEWS came to be part of our daily lives now.

But, moving on..... love this new downtown development:cheers:

This post is a fine example of someone on social media saying, "I was wrong."

I based my response on images posted by others which I guess I misread:
Will the next post be you apologizing for overreacting before even giving someone a chance to make amends for a mistake?

And correct me if I'm wrong, but there seems to be no retail, which is a waste of opportunity in a downtown. A huge waste... I mean, look at the size of that block with no retail.

I agree, you obviously misinterpreted the pictures posted. No worries, it happens.

However, I don’t think it’s a waste that there’s no retail. Not every residential development has to have retail, if it did, then you’re just creating a lot of unnecessary vacancies that will not get filled or take a lot longer to fill. Empty store fronts is not a pretty visual. The developers obviously did their due diligence and probably saw there wasn’t enough demand for retail to outset any costs or loss of residential space.

If building retail meant a higher profit potential, they’d have built it into the development.

Again, would it have been nice to have retail, sure. But the absence of retail is not a waste in my opnionX

I respectfully disagree. On a lot that big and that close to downtown (it actually is downtown) to not even have one retail space on one of the corners is a waste.

And I don't mean to sound snarky, but I don't know how else to communicate this in response to your POV, so I apologize for the seeming snarkiness in advance. It isn't obvious that the developers did their due diligence if they "probably" saw there wasn't enough demand. If you show me their study results, I'll believe it's a fact. Even then, it's not just about how much demand there is now; its about how much demand there will be when they create it, and when others create more after seeing their results. As it is, this is just going to create more traffic and more need for the residents to go elsewhere. Maybe they only studied San Antonians' opinions, and as most people on this forum have indicated they are aware of, San Antonio is a very car-centric city in which most people just aren't aware of another way to live because they haven't experienced it. Whereas people who might move there from New York, Chicago, Boston, San Francisco, Miami, Seattle, or any other more expensive city whose people get transferred to less expensive city such as San Antonio, would likely prefer to have a cafe and dry cleaner in their building. If 500+ people live in this building, that's plenty of daily business for a diner, corner store, etc.

Forgive me, but I get tired of people making excuses for the lack of retail in urban residential buildings. Anybody who has ever lived in one of the cities I mentioned is well aware of the need and demand for it. Yeah, it might sit empty for a few months, but the building will be there for 100+ years. That's 100+ years without retail. That's the loss of a golden opportunity to create a more livable setting and eventually triple the rent on the retail establishment as so often happens in those cities I mentioned. That's a waste. That's many different kinds of wastes.

Anyway, that's my blah blah. Please take it in a good light. :cheers:

If it's going to be here for that long, they should have built out of concrete. Tilt-wall would have been quick and economical for a project like this. They would have been mostly done already!
Suspended slabs would have been cool, but a bit more expensive.

A 100 years out of wood, probably not. Just look at any old apartment complex that's been around for 40+ years...they look like crap! Granted, maybe the management company will be proactive and do maintenance to take care of the building before things fall apart...

So there will be no retail in that entire large city block until at least the year 2058.

No offense taken. That is your opinion and I respect it, however, I just can not understand your obsession with every urban development having big ground floor retail. It’s not realistic nor is its absence in a residential development unique to San Antonio. Also, that building will not be there for 100 years, that’s a claim I will whole hardedly disagree with you on.

You're right.