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gymratmanaz May 17, 2019 3:26 PM

X Phoenix
 
Is it time to get this started? :shrug::cheers::)

muertecaza May 17, 2019 5:57 PM

Here is the website:

https://xliving.co/communities/x-phoenix/

And the renderings:

https://i.imgur.com/6jVVMVbh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3ikVzJUh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/sadF63bh.jpg

fawd May 17, 2019 6:25 PM

This is going to be a great one!

Can't believe how far this part of Monroe St has come over the past 6 years.

azliam May 22, 2019 12:34 PM

X is now listed on UEB's website, but no webcam yet:

https://ueb.net/projects/G33/G33.html

Phxguy May 22, 2019 5:55 PM

https://azbigmedia.com/1st-phase-of-...ound-downtown/

More details on the ground-breaking. I guess this project will be 2-phased.

gymratmanaz May 22, 2019 8:09 PM

So what part of the rendering is included in Phase 1?

Obadno May 22, 2019 8:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gymratmanaz (Post 8581096)
So what part of the rendering is included in Phase 1?

Nobody knows, thats the fun.

Probably the worst possible sections of the completed project.

RonnieFoos May 29, 2019 8:02 PM

They've added a couple more renderings to UEB's site. The 5th rendering of X Phoenix sure makes it look like X's top level view towers over Wells Fargo and the Phoenix City Hall towers. I know some developers like to exaggerate their renderings, but most of UEB's renderings are usually on par with what the view will actually be. Wondering if there is any potential the 2nd phase of this could have a taller option?

https://ueb.net/projects/G33/G33.html

Obadno May 29, 2019 8:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonnieFoos (Post 8588483)
They've added a couple more renderings to UEB's site. The 5th rendering of X Phoenix sure makes it look like X's top level view towers over Wells Fargo and the Phoenix City Hall towers. I know some developers like to exaggerate their renderings, but most of UEB's renderings are usually on par with what the view will actually be. Wondering if there is any potential the 2nd phase of this could have a taller option?

https://ueb.net/projects/G33/G33.html

A full block at 20something floors will be huge on the skyline, Its going to be taller and Wider than Stewart which looks huge.

But I dont think it will tower over Wells fargo

combusean May 29, 2019 8:33 PM

Turns out the phxrising.city dude snagged the building data from DSD.

https://i1.wp.com/phxrising.city/wp-...oenix-Data.jpg

They do not have approvals to go over 372'.

RonnieFoos May 29, 2019 8:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by combusean (Post 8588546)
Turns out the phxrising.city dude snagged the building data from DSD.

https://i1.wp.com/phxrising.city/wp-...oenix-Data.jpg

They do not have approvals to go over 372'.

Yea, I didn't think so. Guess UEB exaggerated, :haha:

So it looks like phase 1 says 239' and phase 2 is 280'. And the site allows up to 540' max.

PHX-DUDE-MAN May 30, 2019 4:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonnieFoos (Post 8588568)
Yea, I didn't think so. Guess UEB exaggerated, :haha:

So it looks like phase 1 says 239' and phase 2 is 280'. And the site allows up to 540' max.

What a shame. Such prime real estate for a tall building. Its lame they are not building up to the approved height of 540'. That block is massive too so this building looks like a giant prison. Too bad 3 tall slender buildings couldn't go here. The Phoenix X is a Weird design overall in my opinion. This thing might look best as phase 1 only.

azsunsurfer May 30, 2019 2:07 PM

Maybe they decide to sell off the parcel for Phase II and have someone build something taller and slender?

TJPHXskyscraperfan May 31, 2019 7:07 AM

So why does the rendering look like both phases are the same height?

Mr.RE May 31, 2019 4:07 PM

I hope the surrounding uses get a facelift after the announcement of this project.

Obadno Jun 1, 2019 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.RE (Post 8590792)
I hope the surrounding uses get a facelift after the announcement of this project.

The block to the west has been remodeled already that’s where wenlick market and the Abby are, the south is at&t which isn’t going anywhere to the east is the bankruptcy court, also not going anywhere and to the north is sun devil auto which I think could be turned into a good spot like they did with sip in Arcadia

Jjs5056 Jul 7, 2019 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obadno (Post 8591429)
The block to the west has been remodeled already that’s where wenlick market and the Abby are, the south is at&t which isn’t going anywhere to the east is the bankruptcy court, also not going anywhere and to the north is sun devil auto which I think could be turned into a good spot like they did with sip in Arcadia

The block west still has an existing surface lot on the eastern portion where a slender residential tower would look great. If built, that + The Abbey remodel + Welnick would be an amazing block of restored buildings in an area that could use the stimulus.

The AT&T building has so much space surrounding it; I wish there was some kind of incentive for them - and buildings like Dodge Theater - to wrap at least portions with small-scale retail / retail + office / residential walkups. The bankruptcy court is another eyesore, but the parking lot could theoretically be redeveloped into, at least, a mixed use parking garage.

The Sun Devil Auto building and the one adjacent to Crescent Ballroom have such great potential for adaptive reuse, with food/bars/retail inside, and patios/food trucks outside. If X Phoenix, despite the god-awful superblock design, contributes an active streetfront along WVB, it would be great to finally see something started in this area to build off Crescent, Welnick, and The VB.

MAPAZ Jul 8, 2019 8:03 PM

X (trucks and tractors!) mark the spot
 
X (trucks and tractors!) mark the spot

https://imgur.com/a/IPBAtER

Obadno Jul 8, 2019 8:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAPAZ (Post 8626874)
X (trucks and tractors!) mark the spot

https://imgur.com/a/IPBAtER

God what an absolutely massive footprint. This bitch is going to look squat as hell :yuck:

Edit: also Bonus of dirt moving for Fillmore phase 1 in the top right corner.

RonnieFoos Jul 8, 2019 8:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obadno (Post 8626882)
God what an absolutely massive footprint. This bitch is going to look squat as hell :yuck:

Edit: also Bonus of dirt moving for Fillmore phase 1 in the top right corner.

I'm not really a big fan of this project. It's just more land and less air being taken up for precious Downtown space. It removes the alley and creates a super-massive block which is one of Downtown Phoenix's biggest issues. Blocks should not be this large in a Downtown.


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