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Thefigman Dec 6, 2006 2:37 PM

This is going to be a fun battle to watch. When's the last time anyone heard of NIMBY issues on the Vegas Strip?!?!?

buildup Dec 6, 2006 2:44 PM

I think the Milan Tower is perfect for LV. If you are going to have 4,000 room you should have a tall tower. I don't like all the fat boxy hotels in these big resorts on the strip.

BANKofMANHATTAN Dec 6, 2006 3:40 PM

Well, if they're gonna build a 1888' sex toy, at least it's in the right place. :haha:

CGII Dec 6, 2006 3:55 PM

I would honestly consider suicide if thewtb was in Vegas.

northbay Dec 6, 2006 4:43 PM

dont know about suicide but...

i like the height, but ya, they couldve been a little more original i think.

forumly_chgoman Dec 6, 2006 5:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BANKofMANHATTAN
Well, if they're gonna build a 1888' sex toy, at least it's in the right place. :haha:

I agree, from that angle .....:haha: .....it looks like a dildo


anyhow tallest in western hemisphere.....I guess you guys haven't heard of the Chicago Spire...formally Fordham Spire at 2000ft:banana: :banana:

NYguy Dec 7, 2006 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by forumly_chgoman
anyhow tallest in western hemisphere.....I guess you guys haven't heard of the Chicago Spire...formally Fordham Spire at 2000ft:banana: :banana:

You mean they put that one up already? Gee, those guys work fast....:rolleyes:

kalmia Dec 7, 2006 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thefigman
This is going to be a fun battle to watch. When's the last time anyone heard of NIMBY issues on the Vegas Strip?!?!?

it'll be lolz

kalmia Dec 7, 2006 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYguy
You mean they put that one up already? Gee, those guys work fast....:rolleyes:


I think he's thinking that this Vegas building will never catch up to the spire in Chicago. The spire in Chicago is farther along than this.

probably correct

mdiederi Dec 7, 2006 8:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalmia (Post 2494152)
I think he's thinking that this Vegas building will never catch up to the spire in Chicago. The spire in Chicago is farther along than this.

probably correct

The Milam doesn't have a spire or antenna on top, more like a crown, so they could easily add a 120 foot spire and be taller than the Chicago Spire. Milam already had a higher roof, but now Chicago Spire has just announced that they have eliminated their spire and added condos to the top making their roof higher, and I suppose they could add another spire too if necessary.

It's a new battle for the tallest in the states! :cool:

NYC2ATX Dec 8, 2006 1:59 AM

honestly if Las Vegas was going to attempt 1,888 ft., I think this is about as hideous and tastless as it can get, especially when vegas is trying to redefine its image as a classier city, this would be suicide. :dead:

texcolo Dec 8, 2006 2:51 AM

The should name it "The Steely Dan Building"

Pandemonious Dec 8, 2006 7:24 AM

It has a three pronged design in plan, similar to Burj Dubai's.. that is why they compared them. This was originally supposed to be 200 stories, but cut down I heard, and now that is confirmed. This is an S.O.M. design, which I saw develop some over my summer there. Honestly, I wasn't really a fan of this design, but it is really tall...

NYguy Dec 8, 2006 1:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalmia (Post 2494152)
I think he's thinking that this Vegas building will never catch up to the spire in Chicago. The spire in Chicago is farther along than this.

probably correct

Meanwhile, both are going nowhere fast....:D

But they are exciting proposals, no doubt about that. To think that we would actually be discussing towers that tall here in the US , just 5 years after 9/11....

vegasrain84 Dec 8, 2006 2:32 PM

To propose or not to propose
 
Some have had some questions about whether this is an actual proposal or just a vision, so I wanted to see what you guys thought. Vision or Proposal?

I can tell you a little bit about the owner of the property. Christopher Milam is president of Austin-based IDM Properties, which Hard Rock owner Peter Morton had tapped in October 2005 to build the $1.25 billion condominium project. Las Vegas-based Archon Corp. is in the process of selling the 27-acre site of the former Wet n Wild waterpark to Milam for $450 million. Milam has put down a $5 million non-refundable payment on the property. Milam has built several mixed use project across the country including a $500 million project in Austin Texas. Skidmore, Owings & Merrill and Steelman Design Group are the architects of the tower, which are the architects of some of the worlds tallest buildings, incuding Trump Tower Chicago, Jin Mao Tower, and Burj Dubai. http://www.lvbusinesspress.com/artic...q_11096974.txt


If you look at the Clark County page, it does say that several aspects of the project have been approved. From the website:http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho...s/8263203.html

"Approval of use permits #1, #2, #3, #5, #6, and #7, deviations #1, #2, #3, and #4, and design reviews #1, #2, #3, and #4 (based on the reduction of the tower height); and denial of use permit #4. This is a project of regional significance and will be forwarded to the Board of County Commissioners on December 20, 2006 for final action."

"Due to the height of the proposed building, the development will penetrate the 100:1 notification airspace surface and the Part 77 airspace surface. Therefore, final action by the Board of County Commissioners on this land-use application cannot occur until written evidence that the FAA has determined whether the proposed structure constitutes a hazard to air navigation has been received and the Department of Aviation has had an opportunity to review the determination."

As the Commision has stated, the height of the building has not been approved pending an FAA study to determine whether the building would be an aviation hazard. That study is not due until after the first of the year, and final approval is not expected until then. It has been approved pending FAA approval, and the property owner has the capital to build it, with a reputable architectural firm. But does that mean its an actual proposal?

mdiederi Dec 8, 2006 3:42 PM

http://www.gemcomm.com/cj/headline_detail.htm?id=6064

LV STRIP TO SEE $4 BILLION CASINO DEVELOPMENT AT WATER PARK SITE


The site of the defunct Wet 'n Wild water theme park on the Las Vegas Strip could soon become home of a $4 billion casino resort. Las Vegas-based Archon Corp., which has held control of the site for several years, said in a Securities and Exchange Commission filing last week that it had agreed to sell the property for $450 million.

The buyer-LVTI-is a limited liability company based in Delaware. Chris Milam, an Austin, Texas-based developer who owns LVTI, told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that the company would use private equity investors to fund the resort. While details of the resort are not finalized, it would include 4,500 suites, a sizeable casino and a retail component.

Construction wouldn't begin for 15 to 16 months, taking about three and a half years to complete, Milam said. One advantage is that the site is already vacant.

"The Wet 'n Wild site was like a gift," Milam said. "There's nothing on it that needs to be torn down, and you get frontage on Las Vegas Boulevard and Paradise Road. Five years ago the north Strip was the lonely child, but now it's where everything is happening."

Milam said LVTI would operate the resort for two years, and then sell it to an established gaming operator. Milam said the company has not been involved in any previous gaming projects. Milam, however, has been tied to a condominium project at the Hard Rock Las Vegas that never came to fruition before the property's recent sale to Morgans Hotel Group.

Milam is president of Austin-based IDM Properties, which Hard Rock owner Peter Morton had tapped in October to build the $1.25 billion condominium project adjacent to the resort.

LVTI has provided Archon with a $5 million refundable deposit. Should the deal clear a due diligence period ending July 24, a second deposit of $40 million will be due. Thirteen months after that deposit, LVTI would have to begin making payments of over $2.19 million per month.

Archon, through its Sahara Las Vegas Corp. subsidiary, has controlled the Wet 'n Wild site since 1995. In 2004 the water park's operators-Palace Entertainment-were asked to vacate the site. Archon had planned to build a 3,250-room megaresort of its own on the site, but development never got off the ground.

-Andy Holtmann

oreoman85 Dec 8, 2006 9:46 PM

Build Itttt!!!!!!!!

vegasrain84 Dec 9, 2006 4:45 PM

I finished the Milam Tower, and uploaded it this morning.. This makes Stratosphere look tiny!!

http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/images/43795.gifhttp://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/images/34728.gif

Bergenser Dec 9, 2006 4:51 PM

^ Good drawing. :tup:

vanhenrik Dec 9, 2006 5:01 PM

i hope
 
i hop thats going to be a realety if it is viva las vegas here i kome ! :-)


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