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Davidsam52 Jul 25, 2012 9:48 PM

Epic Photos! My new wallpaper!! :)

Duck From NY Jul 25, 2012 9:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 5777408)
Those brown buildings are housing projects.

It amazes me that there are any housing projects below 115th/120th.

UrbanImpact Jul 26, 2012 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Duck From NY (Post 5777588)
It amazes me that there are any housing projects below 115th/120th.

Aren't they market rate and not poor people?

jd3189 Jul 26, 2012 1:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlosV (Post 5776883)

Those are some of the largest pieces of steel I've seen on this tower. Guess they're finishing it with a bang.

10023 Jul 26, 2012 1:28 AM

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Originally Posted by UrbanImpact (Post 5777817)
Aren't they market rate and not poor people?

Nope, NY Housing Authority:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_E._Smith_Houses

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladeck_Houses

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaGuardia_Houses

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Houses


It's amazing they don't all get redeveloped, but I guess they don't have problems as intense as other projects that have been razed around the country. Still... riverfront, close to Downtown, the gentrifying LES and Brooklyn.

Enigmatism415 Jul 26, 2012 1:48 AM

hmm
 
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Originally Posted by UTEPman (Post 5777558)
I don't get it. How are these massive projects like Hudson Yards supposedly getting built, but they can't even find tennants for the WTC sites?

If towers 2 and 3 get capped off, this whole project will be a complete waste. Maybe that's just an over-reaction on my part, but it just pisses me off that they've spent all these years messing with this project, and they can't even seem to get it fully off the ground still.....

I am curious myself...

mheadroom Jul 26, 2012 2:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Enigmatism415 (Post 5777902)
I am curious myself...

It's more complicated than supply and demand. Commercial tenants are usually very particular. The Hudson Yards probably offers better rates. Some tenants probably like the idea of being closer to residential neighborhoods like Hell's Kitchen, the Upper West Side, and Riverside even.

Personally, I hate the Financial District. The streets are too narrow, too congested. The half a dozen massive construction projects makes it even worse. Fulton Transit center somehow makes a horrible commuting situation worse (at least for the time being).

The memorial is a disaster. Listless tourists pouring into the streets out of those horrendous buses that take up precious little space. It's like enduring a freakish Disney World with no rules and no common sense.

Forgetting about the tourists, let's complain about getting lunch. If you aren't in a nice new building with a cafe inside, you have too deal with long lines in crowded delis. Its horrible. Midtown is only a little better. My favorite places to work have always been on the far west side where there are very few commercial buildings and fewer tourists. It's much more civilized. If I were in charge of finding a space for my company - I would pick the Hudson Yards over the WTC any day for all the reasons I just listed.

Also, let's not forget that sometimes its just being superstitious. A lot of the New Yorker staff balked at the idea of moving into 1WTC with Conde Nast. I'm sure there are plenty of companies that don't want to work in a building they perceive to be a target. Take that all together, and an inability to lower rents any further, and you can begin to imagine why Silverstein and the PA are having a hard time attracting tenants.

mheadroom Jul 26, 2012 2:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Duck From NY (Post 5777588)
It amazes me that there are any housing projects below 115th/120th.

If you believe poor people only live in Harlem then I have a bridge to sell you.

When did you move here, last week?

Shepard Jul 26, 2012 5:31 AM

Let's stay on topic and stop talking about housing complexes.

jthornton17 Jul 26, 2012 6:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NYGrail (Post 5777457)
Here's some new information on the site from the WSJ, mostly how 3 World Trade is stopping construction at the 8th floor (it's sad to hear that, I actually like that tower more than 2 WTC). http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...788560162.html

as bad as the news is for 3 wtc, we might not ever see 2 wtc rise. With the econemy and still space in 1 and 4 wtc, it's obvious from this article, 3 wtc will be the next building to top out in the future. To see a line like 2 wtc has been put on the shelf, is not good.

tiarae Jul 26, 2012 11:06 AM

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hunser Jul 26, 2012 11:23 AM

A bit old but still cool...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8153/7...df317f4b_b.jpg
ESB MegaPano #3 von Tony Shi. auf Flickr

yankeesfan1000 Jul 26, 2012 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Enigmatism415 (Post 5777902)
I am curious myself...

Quick answer, almost 90% of Manhattan's commercial real estate predate 1970.

MrSlippery519 Jul 26, 2012 2:31 PM

Plenty of new steel on site this morning as well...Earth cam is showing 2 trucks with huge pieces.

mat97 Jul 26, 2012 3:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MrSlippery519 (Post 5778383)
Plenty of new steel on site this morning as well...Earth cam is showing 2 trucks with huge pieces.

Yeah you're right, but today thei don't work, why?:(

Nexis4Jersey Jul 26, 2012 4:57 PM

My World Trade Center Pictures from last week..

From Jersey City

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8423/7...a0681696_b.jpg
DSCN6488 by Nexis4Jersey09, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7253/7...6dc0dc08_b.jpg
DSCN6491 by Nexis4Jersey09, on Flickr

From Yesterday

From Jersey City

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8283/7...b642f36d_b.jpg
DSCN6567 by Nexis4Jersey09, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7252/7...6f3c34ba_b.jpg
DSCN6575 by Nexis4Jersey09, on Flickr

Seen from 21 Miles North in Dobbs Ferry - New York

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7275/7...062e3da1_b.jpg
World Trade Center and Manhattan seen from Dobbs Ferry - New York by Nexis4Jersey09, on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7278/7...79531215_b.jpg
World Trade Center and Manhattan seen from Dobbs Ferry - New York by Nexis4Jersey09, on Flickr

Enigmatism415 Jul 26, 2012 5:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mheadroom (Post 5777957)
Personally, I hate the Financial District. The streets are too narrow, too congested. The half a dozen massive construction projects makes it even worse. Fulton Transit center somehow makes a horrible commuting situation worse (at least for the time being).

The memorial is a disaster. Listless tourists pouring into the streets out of those horrendous buses that take up precious little space. It's like enduring a freakish Disney World with no rules and no common sense.

Forgetting about the tourists, let's complain about getting lunch. If you aren't in a nice new building with a cafe inside, you have too deal with long lines in crowded delis. Its horrible. Midtown is only a little better. My favorite places to work have always been on the far west side where there are very few commercial buildings and fewer tourists. It's much more civilized. If I were in charge of finding a space for my company - I would pick the Hudson Yards over the WTC any day for all the reasons I just listed.

Also, let's not forget that sometimes its just being superstitious. A lot of the New Yorker staff balked at the idea of moving into 1WTC with Conde Nast. I'm sure there are plenty of companies that don't want to work in a building they perceive to be a target. Take that all together, and an inability to lower rents any further, and you can begin to imagine why Silverstein and the PA are having a hard time attracting tenants.

I agree that for the time being the Financial District is a war-zone and not comfortably inhabitable. However, the Financial District is my favorite neighborhood anywhere on the eastern seaboard because of its narrow streets and precipitous skyscrapers. I live there currently and I love the feeling of dwelling in a labyrinth of canyons (it gives me a sense of safety and modernity). This is, of course, my personal taste, and I know that I am not alone. I love the Financial District because of its pre-9/11 past and its future, even if I loathe its current condition. Once all the construction is done, I think the neighborhood will attract businesses and tourists alike, just as the original WTC did, only now we'll have a greater influx of residents as well.

CarlosV Jul 26, 2012 7:04 PM

another scorching day here in Gotham...high 80's....no visible work since yesterday.....

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8422/7...e531b9c1_b.jpg
DSC_0590 copy by Ceva321, on Flickr

xXSkyscraperDudeXx Jul 26, 2012 7:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hunser (Post 5778274)

Amazing image!

dar124 Jul 26, 2012 8:29 PM

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Originally Posted by xXSkyscraperDudeXx (Post 5778724)
Amazing image!

:previous: +1


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