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Dac150 Feb 12, 2008 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Down_Under_the_El (Post 3347946)
Very nice!! What is the building directly east of the freedom tower going to be exactly?

A performing arts center I believe.

CoolCzech Feb 12, 2008 1:43 AM

Those renderings of the memorial feature a disturbing amount of concrete pavement. I'd prefer a look closer to that of Bryant Park:

http://www.benstrawbridge.com/links/...1-18.30.05.jpg
benstrawbridge.com

http://wirednewyork.com/fountains/br...n_28sept03.jpg
wirednewyork.com

2-TOWERS Feb 12, 2008 4:05 PM

It Is Amazing How Real Those Pictures Look. Hopefully It Will Look Exactly Like It.

Daquan13 Feb 12, 2008 8:05 PM

Great pics, NYguy!!

Can't wait to see it in person when it's all done!

jackie60 Feb 12, 2008 9:10 PM

i'm sure the concrete surface around the trees is meant to encourage people to wander through the memorial. if it were just sod they wouldn't be able to keep it alive with so much foot traffic.

DUBAI2015 Feb 13, 2008 2:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theWatusi (Post 3347963)
is there significance to the number of trees?

I'm sure that the number of trees in the whole memorial is the same number of people who died on the towers.

NYonward Feb 13, 2008 1:40 PM

NY Post

THEY WILL DO WINDOWS
LOOKING FORWARD TO WINDOWS ON THE WORLD III


February 13, 2008 -- THE new restaurant planned to replace Windows on the World won't be as big as the original. It won't be quite as high. And it's still at least five years away.

But what a thrill, this Valentine's Day week, to know that it's coming. New Yorkers who have come to doubt every announcement of "progress" at Ground Zero should know that, of all things planned there, a new, sky-high restaurant is the closest thing to a done deal.

This month, I sorely miss, as I have for the past six years, the reservation request that always gave me fits - for a Feb. 14 table at Windows on the World.

Friends said they'd settle for bad tables. But on short notice, I couldn't find them space in the broom closet, much less near a 107th floor window.

Ever since 9/11, Windows on the World's absence has been most painfully felt at holidays. That's why the Port Authority's request for proposals from eatery operators is so heartening in a week that celebrates the romantic heart.

Many will write off the planned opening in early 2013, still a long way off, as a joke. But, in fact, the new restaurant's home, now called "One World Trade Center, The Freedom Tower," is already rising. The steel has started from the earth.

The PA will not want for suitors to re-create what was the highest-grossing restaurant in the land. Who will make offers remains to be seen.

Lower Manhattan Development Corp. president David Emil was once head of Night Sky, the outfit that ran Windows pre-9/11; but he's no longer in the business, having sold most of his interest and left his executive role. However, Night Sky, which made a deal to run the Plaza's Oak Room, will surely give the RFP a close read.

RockMont Feb 13, 2008 4:15 PM

I don't think the difference in height is all that dramatic, considering how tall the building will be. Just a matter of a few feet.

Realthang Feb 14, 2008 12:23 PM

There Be Concrete
 
They're pouring the concrete for the B3 level of the North core today... :tup:

chex Feb 14, 2008 6:28 PM

nice renders, i would like there wolud be more green areas tho..

photoLith Feb 15, 2008 1:43 AM

Man is this thing ever going to rise above street level? If its been previously stated sorry, Im kinda new, but when will it start to rise above street level?

Austin55 Feb 16, 2008 9:07 PM

Can we Please have some construction Pics? Thanks.

Yes,way to much crete around those trees.
Also,whats the hieght of the lobby again?

Daquan13 Feb 16, 2008 9:56 PM

I was about to ask the same thing.

CoolCzech Feb 17, 2008 12:21 AM

www.cushmanwakefield.com

Cushman & Wakefield awarded exclusive freedom tower Leasing Agency

Cushman & Wakefield, the world’s largest privately held global real estate services firm, has been named the exclusive leasing agent for 1 World Trade Center, the Freedom Tower, by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

The Freedom Tower, currently under construction at the site of the former World Trade Center, will total over 240,000 sq m upon its completion in 2012.

“Cushman & Wakefield is thrilled and honored to have been named as the exclusive leasing agent for the Freedom Tower,” said Bruce Mosler, President and Chief Executive Officer of Cushman & Wakefield.

“This building is a symbol of New York’s – and our nation’s – resurgence, and will become one of the most successful and globally recognized icons of all time. We are proud to partner with the Port Authority to bring this historic vision to reality, and to continue to play a leading role in the revival of Downtown Manhattan.”

Tara I. Stacom, Vice Chairman, is leading the Cushman & Wakefield leasing team.

To find out more about Cushman & Wakefield,
visit

yarabundi Feb 17, 2008 1:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austin55 (Post 3359165)
Can we Please have some construction Pics? Thanks.

Same feeling here. It had been a long time since we had updates.

Puzzlecraft Feb 17, 2008 10:11 PM

Freedom Tower Progress Jan 22 - Feb 17, 2008
 
Progress looks slow but activity continues around the core.

http://www.custompuzzlecraft.com/tem...r_20080217.jpg

The left hand picture was clipped from http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/groundzero/ last January 22nd, the right hand picture today February 17, 2008. The core around the left hand crane has doubled in size. Steel support has appeared against the back wall.

Daquan13 Feb 18, 2008 5:41 PM

Note the difference between the 2 pics above.

In the right one, there appears to be more steel against the slurry wall - a sign that things ARE moving right along.

CGII Feb 18, 2008 6:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolCzech (Post 3348150)
Those renderings of the memorial feature a disturbing amount of concrete pavement. I'd prefer a look closer to that of Bryant Park:

Paris has lots of parks with cobblestone or gravel ground and big, thick trees to give shade, and they're positively beautiful. The memorial won't be dissappointing in the least.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1393/...a7dadf6c60.jpg
Mr-Pan on flickr.com

subterranean Feb 18, 2008 6:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolCzech (Post 3348150)
Those renderings of the memorial feature a disturbing amount of concrete pavement. I'd prefer a look closer to that of Bryant Park:

http://www.benstrawbridge.com/links/...1-18.30.05.jpg
benstrawbridge.com

http://wirednewyork.com/fountains/br...n_28sept03.jpg
wirednewyork.com



I couldn't agree with you more! That's the first thing I noticed when I saw those renderings. It makes the place uncomfortable and unapproachable. There's no place to relax without feeling like you're on a platter. The only reason I can come up with that they would design this like they have is that there is going to be an enormous amount of foot traffic from tourists, etc, and it will be cheaper to maintain in the short run. But one only needs to look as far as Hart Plaza in Detroit to see how poorly the concrete ages, and how uncomfortable a concrete space can be. Not to mention the movement of the concrete over time, cracking, etc, makes it look trashy eventually. The concrete may seem subdued by the aerial view because of all the trees, but at the ground level this is not a good design for the site. Personally, I would go with grass, like the photo CoolCzech posted.

STERNyc Feb 18, 2008 8:39 PM

Its a logisitics question, the grass would become trampled in no time.

Down_Under_the_El Feb 18, 2008 8:55 PM

And if you look at those pictures of Bryant Park no one is on the grass... they are all on the concrete. I think considering the amount of people coming to visit and the fact that it is a memorial not really a park lend to how it has turned out.

Lecom Feb 18, 2008 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STERNyc (Post 3362608)
Its a logisitics question, the grass would become trampled in no time.

Exactly.

Realthang Feb 19, 2008 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daquan13 (Post 3362236)
Note the difference between the 2 pics above.

In the right one, there appears to be more steel against the slurry wall - a sign that things ARE moving right along.

The black cross like things aren't steel... it's waterproofing for the slurry wall where the tie back endings are. It redirects any water to a proper drainage system. If you can find a picture of the north wall, you'll see them from one side of the wall to the other.

There are however, 6 new columns that were installed several weeks ago...

Surrealplaces Feb 19, 2008 1:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puzzlecraft (Post 3360952)
Progress looks slow but activity continues around the core.

http://www.custompuzzlecraft.com/tem...r_20080217.jpg

The left hand picture was clipped from http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/groundzero/ last January 22nd, the right hand picture today February 17, 2008. The core around the left hand crane has doubled in size. Steel support has appeared against the back wall.

Glad to see that progress is still underway :tup:

Urban Sky Feb 19, 2008 5:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyo (Post 3351440)
NY Post

THEY WILL DO WINDOWS
LOOKING FORWARD TO WINDOWS ON THE WORLD III


February 13, 2008 -- THE new restaurant planned to replace Windows on the World won't be as big as the original. It won't be quite as high. And it's still at least five years away.

But what a thrill, this Valentine's Day week, to know that it's coming. New Yorkers who have come to doubt every announcement of "progress" at Ground Zero should know that, of all things planned there, a new, sky-high restaurant is the closest thing to a done deal.

This month, I sorely miss, as I have for the past six years, the reservation request that always gave me fits - for a Feb. 14 table at Windows on the World.

Friends said they'd settle for bad tables. But on short notice, I couldn't find them space in the broom closet, much less near a 107th floor window.

Ever since 9/11, Windows on the World's absence has been most painfully felt at holidays. That's why the Port Authority's request for proposals from eatery operators is so heartening in a week that celebrates the romantic heart.

Many will write off the planned opening in early 2013, still a long way off, as a joke. But, in fact, the new restaurant's home, now called "One World Trade Center, The Freedom Tower," is already rising. The steel has started from the earth.

The PA will not want for suitors to re-create what was the highest-grossing restaurant in the land. Who will make offers remains to be seen.

Lower Manhattan Development Corp. president David Emil was once head of Night Sky, the outfit that ran Windows pre-9/11; but he's no longer in the business, having sold most of his interest and left his executive role. However, Night Sky, which made a deal to run the Plaza's Oak Room, will surely give the RFP a close read.

i know this is a page or so back...but im excited. looking forward to eating here once it reopens! :yes:

korzym Feb 19, 2008 10:01 AM

I don't know if anyone's mentioned this before, but every time I look at the memorial..tower water fall holes...I always ask myself what will happen to someone if they fall in there? People may fall in there for all sorts of reasons..fooling around, 'stunt men', suicides [I really hope not..], and just plain crazy lunatics. I see that pit/trench, but still people are inventive.

My first glance of the holes is that its a hazard. I'm all for making a memorial to commemorate the victims, but this is just one part of it I don't understand.

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/92817855/original.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/92817877/original.jpg

harryc Feb 19, 2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by korzym (Post 3364035)
I don't know if anyone's mentioned this before, but every time I look at the memorial..tower water fall holes...I always ask myself what will happen to someone if they fall in there? People may fall in there for all sorts of reasons..fooling around, 'stunt men', suicides [I really hope not..], and just plain crazy lunatics. I see that pit/trench, but still people are inventive.

My first glance of the holes is that its a hazard. I'm all for making a memorial to commemorate the victims, but this is just one part of it I don't understand.

It's a NYC test - if you can't avoid falling in the water then please please please stay away from the subway.

Daquan13 Feb 19, 2008 1:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoolCzech (Post 3348150)
Those renderings of the memorial feature a disturbing amount of concrete pavement. I'd prefer a look closer to that of Bryant Park:

http://www.benstrawbridge.com/links/...1-18.30.05.jpg
benstrawbridge.com

http://wirednewyork.com/fountains/br...n_28sept03.jpg
wirednewyork.com



Boston has a park that looks similar to the one in the pic above in front of the
Harvard School of Medicine on Longwood Ave.

STERNyc Feb 19, 2008 2:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by korzym (Post 3364035)
I don't know if anyone's mentioned this before, but every time I look at the memorial..tower water fall holes...I always ask myself what will happen to someone if they fall in there? People may fall in there for all sorts of reasons..fooling around, 'stunt men', suicides [I really hope not..], and just plain crazy lunatics. I see that pit/trench, but still people are inventive.

My first glance of the holes is that its a hazard. I'm all for making a memorial to commemorate the victims, but this is just one part of it I don't understand.

I think its a non-issue. You can say the same thing about a number of things, the subway for instance has no barriers whatsoever and people almost never purposely go into the tracks. A kid fell jumped or fell from a barrier at Yankee Stadium and was promptly arrested and banned from the Stadium. I can think of a million more effective ways to commit suicide than jumping in that shallow pit.

ATLksuGUY Feb 19, 2008 3:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harryc (Post 3364077)
It's a NYC test - if you can't avoid falling in the water then please please please stay away from the subway.


:haha: I just hope it will have a penny catcher/collector for all the tourists throwing loose change into it.

Puzzlecraft Feb 19, 2008 3:24 PM

WTC Waterfall holes
 
Will be interesting to see how the WTC waterfall holes operate when the temperature is well below freezing.

Aside to Realthang - thanks for info re: slurry wall non-steel waterproofing.

subterranean Feb 19, 2008 5:12 PM

Is it LEED certified? HAHAHA

gttx Feb 19, 2008 7:02 PM

My only real problem is with how many trees there are everywhere....I feel like you will meander through the memorial, and will have to just stumble upon the two huge holes in the ground. There is no vista for seeing them except right next to the pits, which I think makes it difficult to take in the enormity of what used to be buildings. I could be totally wrong, but the forest look is just rubbing me the wrong way.

ThreeHundred Feb 19, 2008 7:26 PM

Unless you're Helen Keller, you'll be able to see and hear 2 large waterfalls.

CoolCzech Feb 19, 2008 9:17 PM

^ I was wondering whatever happened to Helen... :eek:

RockMont Feb 19, 2008 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daquan13 (Post 3362236)
Note the difference between the 2 pics above.

In the right one, there appears to be more steel against the slurry wall - a sign that things ARE moving right along.



Just like I said before. It is a massive project. The bigger it is the longer it'll take to lay down the foundation. Since they're taking their time, they must be doing it right. Once the tower starts to rise, then I think things will speed up.

rich_200 Feb 19, 2008 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATLksuGUY (Post 3364222)
:haha: I just hope it will have a penny catcher/collector for all the tourists throwing loose change into it.

Of course there will be, how do you think they plan to recover the investment?

37TimPPG Feb 19, 2008 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich_200 (Post 3365336)
Of course there will be, how do you think they plan to recover the investment?

I thought that's what the Chinese were for?:D

Ghost Feb 21, 2008 6:51 AM

Here is some photos from wtcrising.com (from Janyary):

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/c...20copy_big.jpg

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/c...20copy_big.jpg

http://www.wtcrising.com/images/FE/c...20copy_big.jpg

You can't say there isn't any activity...

Daquan13 Feb 21, 2008 2:20 PM

And as the tower gets even taller, more workers will come!

I remember when 7 WTC's concrete base seemed kind of slow. But once the steel started rising, the tower took off!

Apex Feb 21, 2008 8:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 37TimPPG (Post 3365381)
I thought that's what the Chinese were for?:D

What the hell is that supposed to mean? :koko:

37TimPPG Feb 21, 2008 9:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apex (Post 3370065)
What the hell is that supposed to mean? :koko:

It means that the Chinese bailed out Citibank, Merrill Lynch and other financial institutions involved in the credit crunch. It's only a matter of time before they start purchasing large chunks of Real Estate. Incidentally, didn't a Chinese state-controlled holding company lease a large block of space at the Freedom Tower?

THAT'S WHAT THE HELL THAT MEANS!:hell:

Surrealplaces Feb 22, 2008 3:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost (Post 3368974)

Cool photos!

WonderlandPark Feb 22, 2008 3:52 AM

Yes, finally, getting up and above ground level. Its taken long enough.

SkyWatcher Feb 22, 2008 2:46 PM

I like the trees....I think they frame the waterfalls very nicely. If you want a vista of the falls you'd be better off seeing them from a few floors up. I think a wide open space would be butt ugly....we have too many of those as it is.

Complex01 Feb 22, 2008 3:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WonderlandPark (Post 3370961)
Yes, finally, getting up and above ground level. Its taken long enough.

Wow, yeah its rising. Nice...

:cool:

Daquan13 Feb 22, 2008 4:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WonderlandPark (Post 3370961)
Yes, finally, getting up and above ground level. Its taken long enough.



A complicated massive construction project such as this normally takes some time just to reach street level, much less rise above it.

Xeelee Feb 22, 2008 6:04 PM

Looks good to me.

Daquan13 Feb 23, 2008 2:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 37TimPPG (Post 3370133)
It means that the Chinese bailed out Citibank, Merrill Lynch and other financial institutions involved in the credit crunch. It's only a matter of time before they start purchasing large chunks of Real Estate. Incidentally, didn't a Chinese state-controlled holding company lease a large block of space at the Freedom Tower?

THAT'S WHAT THE HELL THAT MEANS!:hell:



Wasn't that Vantone?

The same Chinese firm that was about to rent office in 7 WTC just before the deal went sour between them and Silverstein?

They seemingly took too long to produce the money, so Silvie had swiftly put the breaks on and shitcanned the deal.

mclancer Feb 23, 2008 6:31 AM

back on topic ..... boys!


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