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vid Oct 5, 2010 3:12 AM

How is it hilarious?

Aleks Oct 5, 2010 6:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GulfArabia (Post 5003744)

WOW! I have mixed emotions on the cladding of the tower, but this ONE FUCKING BEAUTIFUL clock.

GulfArabia Oct 5, 2010 8:47 AM

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1087/33666787.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4940/30166414.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...0_101032_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._8184163_n.jpg

hunser Oct 5, 2010 11:18 AM

such a beautiful and massive tower, especially the clock! any chance you could smuggle us non- muslims into mecca, GulfArabia? :D i'm willing to pay you $$$. :cool:

M.K. Oct 5, 2010 1:09 PM

it is a wonderful clock details. I liked much. Impressive ! :) I just think it is all too dense together, but wonderful building.

Dylan Leblanc Oct 7, 2010 3:24 AM

I want to go to Mecca!

NYC4Life Oct 8, 2010 3:47 AM

Amazing sight to see with all of those tower cranes. The entire complex is huge! Clock tower looks a lot like Big Ben in London.

Tom In Chicago Oct 8, 2010 8:35 PM

This thread has become a speed-trap for forum newbies. . . please keep your remarks ON-TOPIC and in good taste. . . thanks in advance. . .

. . .

Northwest Oct 11, 2010 6:15 PM

Amazing!!

So many American projects are subject to value engineering as they approach completion, and details are removed to prevent spiralling budgets. I see no evidence of that here, the attention to detail is truely amazing.

Please keep posting pictures!

GulfArabia Oct 11, 2010 10:03 PM

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4131/...0c649b31_z.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4152/...bd58a752_z.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/848/capturebo.jpg
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1586/41939602.jpg

patriotizzy Oct 12, 2010 4:51 AM

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Originally Posted by vid (Post 5004650)
How is it hilarious?

"a closeup of the clock face indicates the huge scale of the project (note the workman in the lower right-hand corner)."

When in fact the guy is on the bottom left.

kenratboy Oct 14, 2010 4:46 AM

Does anyone know what room rates are like during the Haj?

MolsonExport Oct 14, 2010 4:45 PM

the gargantuan scale staggers the mind!

colemonkee Oct 14, 2010 7:27 PM

The details at the top of the shorter towers and on the clock on the larger tower really make this whole complex. That level of detail is rare these days, and it's kind of refreshing to see it, IMHO.

woodrow Oct 14, 2010 8:07 PM

I think I now know what has bothered me about this project. It dwarfs the Grand Mosque, making it look kinda 'meh. That is too bad. To me, the Grand Mosque always looked vast and majestic, dominating. Looking at new pics, the Abraj Al-Bait looming above, the mosque seems like an anteroom to the building. Maybe it just the pictures that make it appear that way.

CUclimber Oct 14, 2010 10:33 PM

Quote:

To me, the Grand Mosque always looked vast and majestic, dominating.
Seriously? It always looked like a 4-story sprawling courtyard to me.

I love the scale of the Abraj Al-Bait. And that clock is spectacular.

MolsonExport Oct 15, 2010 1:59 AM

betcha the bars in that hotel kinda suck. in all seriousness, i loathed the renderings, but the project has grown on me. Quite impressive, the building is, as Yoda would say.

jacks Oct 15, 2010 3:43 AM

I too thought this project was hideous on paper. Sort of a cross between a Stalinist our-erection-is-bigger-than-yours and a Las Vegas theme casino.

The attention to detail though is winning me over. The pic of the clock is gorgeous! Good on them for daring to do something a bit different.

Aleks Oct 15, 2010 4:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colemonkee (Post 5015846)
The details at the top of the shorter towers and on the clock on the larger tower really make this whole complex. That level of detail is rare these days, and it's kind of refreshing to see it, IMHO.

:tup:

I'd also add that this building does a great job fitting in to its surroundings (well, other than being 1800 ft taller). I really dislike many 'innovative' buildings influenced by middle-eastern architecture in other parts of the world. there's some cheesy, cheap looking ones out there. maybe they'd look good spread out but in a single location! :yuck:

this building doesn't try to be 'hip, innovative and modern.' it's just sticking to it's islamic roots, with density throughout the complex (like the neighborhoods around mecca and other desert cities) and has a good purpose to be there.

the canyons created by this tower will look amazing! i can't wait to see pictures from the walkways between the towers!

sw5710 Oct 15, 2010 4:40 AM

This will be the # 2 tallest "building" in the world for a while.

GulfArabia Oct 15, 2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CUclimber (Post 5016152)
Seriously? It always looked like a 4-story sprawling courtyard to me.

I love the scale of the Abraj Al-Bait. And that clock is spectacular.

at night (& when its cooler) the only thing this lit in the city of Makkah is the court yard, it will make all the next door towers disappear (except for the clock high in the sky) the rest of the clock (spear .... ) will be lit also once its done

Never underestimate the mosque, i was there 2 weeks ago, it only seems like (4 story building) but the scale of it is unlike anywhere else GRAND, look at the people

[IMG]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/...a711b389_z.jpg[/IMG]

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/m...a_1000525c.jpg


look at the size of the people:

http://navedz.files.wordpress.com/20...-haram-041.jpg
http://navedz.files.wordpress.com/20...-al-haram1.jpg
http://navedz.files.wordpress.com/20...-haram-022.jpg
http://navedz.files.wordpress.com/20...-haram-012.jpg

imagen 4 floors of this (it will be 5 floors in the near future)

GulfArabia Oct 15, 2010 11:57 AM

http://www.compositesworld.com/cdn/cms/1010_CT_EI2.jpg
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4940/30166414.jpg
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/7...2402171bbb.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3...e38ae5312b.jpg
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8...5a2482a4fb.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5...02d2c4f2fb.jpg
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6...a9ab58e8bb.jpg

MolsonExport Oct 15, 2010 1:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sw5710 (Post 5016635)
This will be the # 2 tallest "building" in the world for a while.


Tokyo Skytree (2080 feet) will surpass Abraj Al-Bait early next year.

Traynor Oct 15, 2010 3:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport (Post 5016912)
Tokyo Skytree (2080 feet) will surpass Abraj Al-Bait early next year.

^Sadly the Skytree is not a "building" otherwise the CN tower would still be in the mix.

GulfArabia Oct 16, 2010 12:22 AM

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/...9da6aa38_b.jpg

Sunset

Innsertnamehere Oct 16, 2010 3:55 AM

if you included towers, you would also have to include the Guangzhou tv tower....

GulfArabia Oct 16, 2010 4:26 AM

But it will remain as the largest building in the world, Dubai's Airport is now second place

GulfArabia Oct 17, 2010 2:56 AM

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3...2ff42d72ab.jpg

GulfArabia Oct 17, 2010 8:44 PM

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/2...97120ee48b.jpg

muppet Oct 17, 2010 8:48 PM

I think it's larger than Dubai's airport by quite a bit...

either way, a new wonder of the world imo

HowardL Oct 18, 2010 1:09 AM

From the renderings early on, I was optimistic yet hesitant. But now that it's really taking shape, this thing rocks crazy hard.

GulfArabia Oct 18, 2010 8:03 PM

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/1...a3ab37ee0b.jpg

Crush_Buds Oct 18, 2010 8:10 PM

Awesome shot :tup:

I can't wait to see the crescent.

Troubadour Oct 19, 2010 4:20 AM

Whenever I see giant clock towers, I automatically think "1.21 jigawatts!" :cool:

rythym Oct 19, 2010 4:38 PM

How many total rooms does this complex have?

colemonkee Oct 19, 2010 6:12 PM

Keep the pictures coming, GulfArabia. They're awesome.

PhxPavilion Oct 20, 2010 7:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sw5710 (Post 5016635)
This will be the # 2 tallest "building" in the world for a while.

How long is awhile? In a couple years it'll be:

1. Burj Khalifa
2. Pingan International Finance Centre
3. Shanghai Tower
4. Abraj Al-Bait

By roof height it would be ranked 8th (top of the clock).

Also, both it and the Dubai Airport Terminal 3 are tied at 1,500,000 m^2 of floorspace. The whole of the Dubai airport is much larger.

M.K. Oct 20, 2010 8:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GulfArabia (Post 5019617)

pretty impressive the detailed wonderful marble ornaments work inside the mosque. Also impressive how huge the high is on top of this hill, comparing it to the rest of city, seems the pumping-up or pop-up out like in film darkcity, if i remember right, but also shows how religion dark strong side is to them to make a huge tremendous contrast between rich tall tower and poverty besides. An imperium in a Favela

PhxPavilion Oct 20, 2010 8:45 AM

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Originally Posted by M.K. (Post 5023633)
....but also shows how religion dark strong side is to them to make a huge tremendous contrast between rich tall tower and poverty besides. An imperium in a Favela

It's an example of superfluous exuberance in the worst way, hardly surprising considering it's funded by the Binladen Group.

Tom In Chicago Oct 20, 2010 5:26 PM

^What's your point? Binladen construction group practically rebuilt the existing structure surrounding the Kaaba. . . among many other things all over Saudi Arabia. . .

So yeah. . . let's keep this back on topic. . . thanks in advance. . .

. . .

Biff Oct 20, 2010 7:10 PM

Looks like a modern day Agraba (Alladin) in that last picture (sorry for the Disney correlation, i have small kids) Essentially it looks like a modern day castle.

Truly and amazing structure whether you like it or not.

http://ic.maxabout.com/Cartoons/Disn...er/Agrabah.JPG

M.K. Oct 20, 2010 7:21 PM

^Remember just to put the source of this interesting fictional and fantasy pic, that is allright. Taken in consideration the kids fantasy, point of view as father, well... you are right in some way. :haha: :haha: :haha: laugh a lot the correlation. Btw impressive Painting of the Alladin Castle. Who is interested to make a fantasy diagram of it? But the correlation is 'correct' because it is also Arabic Story, isn't it?

GO_UAE Oct 21, 2010 5:42 AM

Agraba means = female scorpion in Arabic

just some useless piece of info :D

wong21fr Oct 21, 2010 4:15 PM

I love the House of Saud crest on the face of the clock. Overlooking the Grand Mosque as a symbolic representation of the role as the "Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques". It is a pretty nice bit of symbolism.

Though "Guardian" seems more appropriate than "Custodian".

GulfArabia Oct 23, 2010 12:15 PM

Alladin may seemed like a "Great" cartoon in the west, but it was an insult to us living in the arab world. this cartoon didn't represent us or our culture and has nothing to do with this thread. stop trolling.

GulfArabia Oct 23, 2010 4:51 PM

Emirates 24 | 7


Giant Makkah clock to be ready next month
Saturday, October 23, 2010

* The 601 meter tower, took only two years to construct

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1431/...51808afd_b.jpg

A giant clock tower constructed in Islam’s holiest city of Makkah as one of the world’s highest towers will be completed next month and will be linked to Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), a Saudi newspaper said Saturday.

The third face of the clock skyscraper, which was launched on a trial basis last month, has been completed while the fourth side will be finished in early November, Sahafaonline Arabic language network reported.

“The fourth side is located south of the Makkah Grand Mosque…it will be finished early next month to mark the end of the project that will be one of the most important hallmarks for Muslims around the world,” it said.

“The clock timing will be linked to UTC after the fourth and last side is completed…a 23-metre crescent on the watch has been constructed and is believed to be the largest man-made crescent in the world….loudspeakers have also been installed on top of the watch to transmit prayers call, which can be heard within a distance of nearly seven km.”

UTC, also referred to as Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), Universal Time (UT), or "Zulu" is an international time scale used in astronomical and aviation publications, weather products, and other documents.

Formerly and still widely called GMT, UTC nominally reflects the mean solar time along the Earth's prime meridian. UTC is expressed using a 24-hour clock but can be converted into a 12-hour clock--AM and PM.

Inaugurating the clock tower last month, Saudi officials said they hoped it would establish Makkah as an alternate time standard to the Greenwich median.

The tower's height will reach 601 metres when it is completed, making it the world's second tallest building -- ahead of Taiwan's 509 metre Taipei 101, but well behind the Burj Khalifa, the 828 metre skyscraper in Dubai.

More than six times larger in diameter than London's famed Big Ben, the clock faces, with the Arabic words "In the Name of Allah" in huge lettering underneath and will be lit with two million LED lights.

The tower, which took two years to construct, is equipped with an elevator to take visitors to the surrounding balcony below the four clocks.

In August, the clock tower triggered panic among Muslim pilgrims when it was shrouded with fog, mistaken for smoke from a fire.

Civil Defence vehicles rushed to the tower site after receiving numerous calls from pilgrims saying that the building is engulfed in smoke.

http://www.emirates247.com/news/regi...10-23-1.307663


GulfArabia Oct 23, 2010 4:58 PM

it took just 2 years to build a complex with 7 towers one of them over 600 meters !

Lecom Oct 23, 2010 6:01 PM

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Originally Posted by M.K. (Post 5024189)
^Remember just to put the source of this interesting fictional and fantasy pic, that is allright. Taken in consideration the kids fantasy, point of view as father, well... you are right in some way. :haha: :haha: :haha: laugh a lot the correlation. Btw impressive Painting of the Alladin Castle. Who is interested to make a fantasy diagram of it? But the correlation is 'correct' because it is also Arabic Story, isn't it?

The correlation also rings true because both are single-construction megaprojects by the royalty situated among a maze of small, private developments on narrow old streets.

KevinFromTexas Oct 23, 2010 7:34 PM

Make sure to credit the photographers of the construction pics with a link.

GulfArabia Oct 24, 2010 2:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lecom (Post 5027833)
The correlation also rings true because both are single-construction megaprojects by the royalty situated among a maze of small, private developments on narrow old streets.

the building is an ENDOWMENT & profits gained from this building goes to the maintenance of the 2 Holy Mosques (just like Hajj Season profits) + all the 80's old buildings around the mosque are demolished and new giant ones are getting rebuilt (more supertalls) the numbers of pilgrims doubled to 4 million in the last 10 years and its going to be 10 million in the next decade.

:tup:


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