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Originally Posted by brian.odonnell20 (Post 5228598)

Did you even look at the pictures before the cladding went on? There are no windows or openings besides the air vents.

Hmm, these seem to be some really oversized air vents:

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Originally Posted by NYC4Life (Post 3603143)

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/h...g?t=1211273153

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This is an attention grabber

So are all supertall buildings, especially considering that in most cities on Earth, it is economically unfeasible to build above 60 stories.

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that people will not be able to come within 100 feet of

More baseless speculation.

Then what are the empty gaps around the top for. Nothing?, because from my viewpoint of the pictures they seem to be open to the elements. Those could be the air vents up there, and besides as we have seen the dark windows are signs that they are mechanical floors, and thus is similar to the dark bands on the original Twin Towers at the WTC. Most likely this building is going to be occupied, and I will quote from BBC. Even if it's an old article.

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A great symbol

The company charged with finishing the Ryugyong is Orascom Telecom, part of an Egyptian conglomerate that took on the rebuilding work - "in partnership with a local firm" - as part of a $400m deal to build and run a 3G mobile phone network in North Korea.

Dozens of Egyptian engineers and some 2,000 local workers are working on the Ryugyong project, which Orascom's chief operating officer Khaled Bichara tells the BBC is "progressing well", despite reported problems with suspect concrete and misaligned lift shafts.

"There have been no issues that have caused us too much trouble," Mr Bichara says. "Most of the work at the moment is coverage of different areas of the building. The first job is to finish the outside - you can't work on the insides until the outside is covered.

"You can see that we have already completed the top of the building where the revolving restaurant will be. After 2010, that's when it will be fully safe to start building from the inside."

How the building will be divided up is not yet finalised the company says, but it will be a mixture of hotel accommodation, apartments and business facilities. Antennae and equipment for Orascom's mobile network will nestle at the very top.

Mr Bichara denies reports that the company's exclusive access to North Korea's fledgling telecoms market is directly linked to the completion of the hotel.

But he says the job is a way of planting a rather tall flag in the ground. "We haven't been given a deadline, we are not tied into doing it by a certain time," he said.

"But when you work in a market like this, where we cannot sponsor things, a project of this kind is good to do - it's word of mouth advertising for us, it builds good rapport with the people - on its own it's a great symbol, one which cements our investment."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8306697.stm
Thus this building is going to most likely be occupied in the future. Especially with the base being constructed.

^Thank you for getting the discussion back onto the factual, and not speculative, path.

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Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 5222137)

Oh then it came from Flickr member Markpanama. Credits go to him which includes this image too.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5215/...ca11592f_b.jpg

Take away the scaffolding in the lower right, and this shot could pass as one of STR's renders....

^^^ And the gleam on the left

lol, true. Even the gleam looks real enough. Maybe STR is Kim Jong Il's account, and the whole thing is a scam after all.

Lots of mysteries in this thread...all of these things would be easier to figure out perhaps for forumers who can speak korean...

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Originally Posted by brian.odonnell20
Did you even look at the pictures before the cladding went on? There are no windows or openings besides the air vents.

Keep in mind that this building is over 1000ft tall. Those are not air vents, but are actually quite large windows.

Of note, I watched a great episode of The Vice Guide to Travel about North Korea today. It's the first really good glimpse into North Korea that I've seen, though it isn't able to show any of everyday life there. Nonetheless, I love that show and it has a couple of pre-clad shots of this tower:

• Video Link

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Originally Posted by Obey (Post 5228776)

^^^ And the gleam on the left

What's a matter, a guy can't gleam around here?
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/641/wx4t.jpg

Reminds me of the new 1WTC.

A vertical Potemkin village.

:previous: unrelated, possibly related, linguistic fact of Russian derived from Potemkin Villages:

"In Russian, the term pokazukha (показуха) is also used for the idea of something done for effect.[15] It comes from the root "pokaz" - "to show"."

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Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 5275602)

Most recent pictures from Flickr Members Kirvis, and Poliphile. All of them were taken on April 17 & April 24, 2011. Note the recently installed telecommunication rings.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5066/...23e37475_b.jpg

Looks like rush hour in Pyongyang:D

I like this building, but in this area, it looks like a spaceship;)

This is the ugliest building in the world. Which is kinda fitting. The ugliest building in the world in the ugliest country in the world.

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Originally Posted by Kanto (Post 5276326)

This is the ugliest building in the world. Which is kinda fitting. The ugliest building in the world in the ugliest country in the world.

It isn't ugly with the cladding, just ludicrous and puerile.

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Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 5275602)

Most recent pictures from Flickr Members Kirvis, and Poliphile. All of them were taken on April 17 & April 24, 2011. Note the recently installed telecommunication rings.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5105/...64ee5fbc_b.jpg

^ Actually this was the morning rush hour! :D

I don't feel like reading the whole thread to see if this comment was already made, but it looks like the Citadel in Half-Life 2.

Is the dislike for this one simply structural or because it is a "potemkin village"? I've always found it interesting when that term is used in relation to architecture because it varies so wildly. I can't see why anyone would have a problem with the Toepfer-designed "potemkin village" in Cleveland, for example. It's basically just trying to create an appealing presentation to hide the way poverty and destitution during the recession have ravaged the interior. Of course there's also the less-colorful "potemkin village" of the Theresienstadt variety, which I believe was just revealed as a model worker's camp while on the interior it was far different. Theresiendstadt later was a transit stop on the route to Auschwitz and then closed down. When people complain about Potemkin Villages, sometimes it doesn't make sense to me that the focus instead isn't on how this results from a lack of economic security and what the reasons for that may be.

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