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eburress Jun 4, 2012 6:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheArtist (Post 5712697)
Until those last couple of pics, I was beginning to wonder if there were any people in the city.

Yeah, it looks eerily deserted in most photos I have seen.

Roadcruiser1 Jun 14, 2012 4:06 PM

This video taken on April 30th, 2012 shows the Ryugyong Hotel and the streets of Pyongyang.

Video Link

jowens Jun 14, 2012 8:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 5734062)
This video taken on April 30th, 2012 shows the Ryugyong Hotel and the streets of Pyongyang.

Video Link


Fascinating video..........I followed the route on google maps.

ThatOneGuy Jun 20, 2012 6:05 PM

In my opinion, this is the most beautiful skyscraper in history, and not even the old WTC, my second favorite buildings, are close to its level. However, the country itself is a shame and a terrible place to live.

Also, that video's pretty cool.

Guiltyspark Jun 21, 2012 2:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatOneGuy (Post 5740694)
In my opinion, this is the most beautiful skyscraper in history, and not even the old WTC, my second favorite buildings, are close to its level. However, the country itself is a shame and a terrible place to live.

Also, that video's pretty cool.

There is no accounting for taste I guess...:sly:

toxteth o'grady Jun 21, 2012 5:52 PM

All these pictures have triggered a long-burning question in my mind: how are these pictures getting out in a closed society that keeps out foreigners and restricts photographers?

Roadcruiser1 Jun 21, 2012 6:56 PM

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Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 5742027)
All these pictures have triggered a long-burning question in my mind: how are these pictures getting out in a closed society that keeps out foreigners and restricts photographers?

They don't. They allow tourism. The tourist however will be strictly monitored and watched. They are also not allowed to photograph or record some things, but usually they are allowed to take pictures and record videos of most things.

NYC4Life Jun 25, 2012 6:40 PM

If there's anything to envy about North Korea, it would be how clean (at least for Pyongyang) the streets are.

MolsonExport Jun 28, 2012 12:58 PM

^an utter lack of commerce has this beneficial side effect.

The Pimp Jun 28, 2012 4:25 PM

Wonderful videos. Someone has finally peeled back a little portion of the curtain. I really enjoyed seeing what the NK Govt doesn't want anyone to see. Normal NK life. Great job!

MolsonExport Jun 28, 2012 4:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 5734062)
This video taken on April 30th, 2012 shows the Ryugyong Hotel and the streets of Pyongyang.

Video Link


Quote:

Originally Posted by jowens (Post 5734380)
Fascinating video..........I followed the route on google maps.

Looks almost exactly like Northern Scarborough. :D

Roadcruiser1 Sep 3, 2012 9:17 PM

These are the most recent pictures of the hotel. These were taken by Bruno Decorte on August 15, 2012. Credits belong to him.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27223472@N00/7864166132/
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8285/7...20a9c133_k.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27223472@N00/7864167754/
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7110/7...3f8216c0_k.jpg

ThatOneGuy Sep 26, 2012 8:41 PM

The greatest day of this decade for this hotel - the first INTERIOR PHOTOS!!!!
http://www.nknews.org/wp-content/upl...2645787300.jpg
http://www.nknews.org/wp-content/upl...1938004370.jpg
http://www.nknews.org/wp-content/upl...1567994132.jpg
http://www.nknews.org/wp-content/upl...4051324651.jpg
http://www.nknews.org/wp-content/upl...1037061749.jpg
http://www.nknews.org/2012/09/finall...-never-finish/

CarlosV Sep 26, 2012 8:53 PM

wow a la Logan's Run!!!!

one question, i don't know if anyone can answer it...why build such a huge hotel there? what's the appeal of this city???

Downburst Sep 26, 2012 10:09 PM

The interior looks like a map one would find on a multiplayer shooter, particularly Halo. That being said, looking up at the facade from the lobby is an impressive view.

Carlos, this is probably more of an (unsuccessful) attempt at status by the North Korean government than anything. When construction started, it would have been the tallest hotel in the world. All the more ironic that it was left incomplete for so long!

Roadcruiser1 Sep 27, 2012 1:42 AM

I have spend some time reading history books and studying, and one day I stumbled upon the reason why North Korea even built the Ryugyong. The Ryugyong's construction started in the 1980's. At this time their neighbor China was introducing Capitalism into it's economy. North Korea was influenced a lot by China back then so they wanted Capitalism in their country. The Ryugyong Hotel would have been the star of their Capitalist economy. They wanted foreign businessmen and women to invest in the hotel, to build restaurants, and other things with relaxed oversight in the Ryugyong.

It was all going well until the Tianamen Square protests in the late 1980's. Then they got really fearful. This is the time that they closed up to Capitalism. They were scared of the threat to their rule. Afterwards they just closed their country. The country then went downhill after the collapse of the Soviet Union. It has been in the dumps ever since.

JHikka Sep 27, 2012 2:17 AM

This is seriously one of the most impressive buildings in the world.


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Originally Posted by CarlosV (Post 5845858)
wow a la Logan's Run!!!!

one question, i don't know if anyone can answer it...why build such a huge hotel there? what's the appeal of this city???

The appeal is just to have a massively large structure. The MayDay Stadium in North Korea is also the largest enclosed stadium in the world (in terms of capacity) at 150,000. It's also one of the better looking stadiums in the world, IMO.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_iJ0-GU6sR5...ay_stadium.jpg

mrnyc Sep 27, 2012 2:26 AM

stunning and awesome now that it finally has its facade on.

ThatOneGuy Sep 27, 2012 3:21 AM

The view upwards from the base is as spectacular as I had imagined.
I find it weird how my favourite skyscraper, and one of my favourite stadiums, are in North Korea.

CarlosV Sep 29, 2012 7:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregHickman (Post 5846215)
This is seriously one of the most impressive buildings in the world.



The appeal is just to have a massively large structure. The MayDay Stadium in North Korea is also the largest enclosed stadium in the world (in terms of capacity) at 150,000. It's also one of the better looking stadiums in the world, IMO.

damn, thanks man..this is the future!

http://weather.aol.com/2012/09/27/fi...n-hotel#page=1

Quote:

The enormous hotel remains a source of fascination - and ridicule - for the outside world.

http://www.blogcdn.com/weather.aol.c...ghotel-575.jpg

scalziand Sep 29, 2012 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 5846182)
I have spend some time reading history books and studying, and one day I stumbled upon the reason why North Korea even built the Ryugyong. The Ryugyong's construction started in the 1980's. At this time their neighbor China was introducing Capitalism into it's economy. North Korea was influenced a lot by China back then so they wanted Capitalism in their country. The Ryugyong Hotel would have been the star of their Capitalist economy. They wanted foreign businessmen and women to invest in the hotel, to build restaurants, and other things with relaxed oversight in the Ryugyong.

It was all going well until the Tianamen Square protests in the late 1980's. Then they got really fearful. This is the time that they closed up to Capitalism. They were scared of the threat to their rule. Afterwards they just closed their country. The country then went downhill after the collapse of the Soviet Union. It has been in the dumps ever since.

Fascinating. And now the tower is being finished as Kim young-un slowly starts recapitalizing the country with the news that farmers get to keep half their produce.

Still wish the interiors were completed or at least visibly being finished in this update.

ThatOneGuy Oct 26, 2012 12:31 AM

Does anybody know when the cone part will start?
http://www.noever-design.com/tl_file...ang-tower2.jpg

Phat Stanley Oct 27, 2012 3:30 PM

:previous: He's kidding, right? :previous:

FLBlake Oct 28, 2012 3:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatOneGuy (Post 5880121)
Does anybody know when the cone part will start?

lol

ThatOneGuy Oct 30, 2012 12:25 AM

Another construction pic (sorry for shite quality)
http://i49.tinypic.com/zlbrbd_th.jpg

Ryugyong art:
http://oi50.tinypic.com/jjp5df.jpg

xboarder84 Oct 31, 2012 9:09 PM

Looking at that art you can almost hear the theme to 'Empire Strikes Back' in the background.

Hayward Nov 1, 2012 5:38 PM

Those trees look frightening

Roadcruiser1 Nov 4, 2012 2:35 PM

Kind of shocking don't you think?

North Korea Ryugyong 'Hotel of Doom' may open next year

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...1_63875228.jpg
The Ryugyong Hotel has become a symbol of North Korea's economic problems

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The 105-storey hotel which dominates the skyline of the North Korean capital, Pyongyang, may open next year, 26 years after construction began.

The pyramid-shaped building has become known as the "Hotel of Doom".

The chief executive of the Kempinski group, which will manage the Ryugyong hotel, said only 150 rooms on the top floors would be used as a hotel.

Reto Wittwer said shops, restaurants and offices would eventually open on the lower levels.

Construction on the building began in 1987.

It is the 47th tallest building in the world, at 330m (1,100ft), and has the fifth greatest number of floors, 105.

Abandoned

It was scheduled to be completed in 1989 in time for the 13th World Festival of Youth and Students.

But construction was abandoned in 1992 when North Korea suffered an economic crisis.

Its hulking, unfinished presence has long been an embarrassment for the North Korean leadership, analysts say.

It was voted "Worst Building in the History of Mankind" by Esquire magazine in 2008.

The American publication called it "hideously ugly, even by communist standards."

There are reports of poor construction and the use of inferior materials.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...7_63875746.jpg
Work on the hotel was abandoned for 16 years.

A delegation from the European Union Chamber of Commerce in Korea, which inspected the building almost 15 years ago, concluded it was beyond repair and its lift shafts crooked.

But in 2008 an Egyptian company, Orascom Telecom, which operates a mobile phone network in North Korea, began equipping the building.

'Multi-storey carpark'

It is reported to have spent $180m (£112m) on finishing the hotel's facade.

Mr. Wittwer said the hotel will "partially, probably" open for business next year.

But original plans for 3,000 hotel rooms and three revolving restaurants have been greatly scaled back.

Earlier this year, the Beijing-based company, Koryo Tours, which organises trips to North Korea, was granted a rare glimpse inside the hotel.

Photos taken by the company showed a vast glass-covered lobby and atrium with tiers of bare concrete at its base, resembling a multi-storey car park.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20178985

ThatOneGuy Nov 4, 2012 2:57 PM

^^ Can't there be a single article being a bit kinder to this poor freaking building? :no: It's been through enough, and now that it finally looks beautiful, the west still spits on it for its location and history. It's ironic to still call it a symbol of North Korea's economic problems if it's pretty much finished now, huh? And why do they always keep referencing that esquire comment that was made before reconstruction even started?

mrnyc Nov 4, 2012 3:37 PM

maybe because its facade has only been renovated for like 15 minutes? just a guess :rolleyes:

CarlosV Nov 5, 2012 10:48 PM

I think this is one GREAT architectural treasure!!! amazing building

Lecom Nov 5, 2012 11:37 PM

Typical article:

North Korean "Hotel of Torture" Set To Finally Open

The Death Star set amidst Pyongyang's destitute and slum-filled wasteland cityscape is set to open some time in the forseeable future. The hotel has been under construction for a whole bunch of years until it was put on hold, presumably because they ran out of people for daily sacrifice rituals due to famine and general fail.

However, the hotel is finally nearing completion. Take a look at our horribly out-of-date construction photos that show a derelict concrete hunk, though this is no longer the situation. But who cares, you can't tell the difference - you can't even find North Korea on the map, so you'll eat up whatever sensationalist BS we serve you. On this note, we would also like to remind you how terrible North Korean reporting is, especially contrasted with our fair and balanced reporting with no skewed agenda.

The hotel's official name is "Hotel of Doom". Well, maybe it's not, but we don't care enough to ask North Korea for its actual name, so we'll include some bogus sensationalist name in the headline over and over again so it sticks in your mind. Who cares what the North Koreans think, they're the bad guys. The hotel is clearly beyond repair, as confirmed by some obscure commission 15 years ago, but some shifty Egyptians called "Orascom" decided to finish it anyway. They're probably the bad guys from the whole Tahir Square Revolution business, who, upon losing a battle for evil in their homeland, had to commit evil deeds elsewhere.

This report was brought to you by some media outlet that feels that North Korea is not doing a good enough job of discrediting itself on its own

DrNest Nov 6, 2012 12:29 AM

Every picture I see of this building makes me think of a roller-coaster ride. I half expect to see some cars hurtling down one of the edges.

ThatOneGuy Nov 6, 2012 2:40 AM

@ Lecom
Maybe BBC will hire you as their next writer, now.

Starsky Nov 6, 2012 4:57 AM

Really, I don't understand any defense of it, other than that it may look better than some of the other aging communist monuments in that concentration camp of a nation. If it did have some architectural merit, I would award it some, perhaps it were in some Jetson's style futuristic city. The glass is kind of pretty, but there are thousands of building's that have that aspect covered.

Can you really picture any other use for it other than having some tyrannical, Communist Despot, scheming from the top ala the Emperor's tower on the Death Star, in Return of the Jedi. Probably not, or at least not as good(or evil....muahahaha!

ThatOneGuy Nov 6, 2012 10:02 PM

If it were in Vegas you would like it.

But it's North Korean, therefore it's bad.

Lecom Nov 7, 2012 1:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatOneGuy (Post 5892729)
If it were in Vegas you would like it.

http://www.visitingdc.com/images/lux...el-address.jpg
http://www.visitingdc.com/images/lux...el-address.jpg

+

http://photos.lasvegassun.com/media/...eau01_t618.jpg
http://photos.lasvegassun.com/media/...eau01_t618.jpg

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ThatOneGuy Nov 18, 2012 4:06 AM

Some more pics of the original construction. They were taken from a video still which was probably recorded with a stapler.
http://oi50.tinypic.com/2442nol.jpg
http://oi50.tinypic.com/34qo0ie.jpg
Concrete pouring at the top
http://oi46.tinypic.com/1zmo8r5.jpg

gramsjdg Nov 22, 2012 12:47 AM

It was voted "Worst Building in the History of Mankind" by Esquire magazine in 2008.

The American publication called it "hideously ugly, even by communist standards."


That's just because Esquire is owned by Hearst, and so they would of course neglect to mention the REAL "Worst building in the History of Mankind" which as everyone knows, is 4 Times Square AKA "The Conde Nast-y Tower" :yuck::koko:

The Hearst Tower itself is definitely a contender for fugliest building as well...

Ryugyong Hotel beats both soundly in terms of good looks.

ThatOneGuy Nov 22, 2012 4:12 AM

'American' is the key word there...

LMich Nov 22, 2012 4:43 AM

Contrarians are just adorable.

isaidso Nov 22, 2012 6:13 AM

I love Hearst and Ryugyong. :yes:

KevinFromTexas Nov 22, 2012 7:28 AM

One interesting fact about this building is that it was only the 2nd supertall in the world outside of the US.

Officially the first was the Bank of China Tower in Hong Kong in 1990, followed by the Ryugyong Hotel in Pyongyang and Central Plaza in Hong Kong both in 1992. Ryugyong Hotel though, broke ground 2 years before Central Plaza did - 1987 vs 1989.

If Ryugyong Hotel had had a 3 year construction schedule like Central Plaza did without construction delays, it would have been tied with Bank of China Tower for the title. Ryugyong Hotel and Bank of China each took 5 years to complete while Central Plaza took just 3.

When you think about the fact that when these buildings were built there were only 10 other supertalls in the world - all in the US. 2 of those were under construction, Library Tower in LA and Franklin Center in Chicago, plus Atlanta's Bank of America Center hadn't been built yet, that's pretty amazing. Think of how many supertalls there are today. There are more of them planned in New York alone today than existed in the world at that time.

Love it or hate it, but the Ryugyong Hotel is one of the world's first supertalls.

MolsonExport Nov 22, 2012 1:28 PM

But the Ryugyong hotel is still under construction!

Tom In Chicago Nov 22, 2012 2:19 PM

I'm sure we'll be hearing more about this building the western media as it gets closer to completion/opening/whatever, but I have to say that for a building that was commissioned and built by a communist dictatorship, I'm amazed that a) it finally got built and b) it could have looked a LOT worse. . . proportionally it's not too bad, despite the unusual shape of the structure. . . I also think the use of highly reflective monolithic glass curtain wall is effective. . . surely the only thing they could do to hide the years of imperfections that crept in after initial construction was put on hold. . .

. . .

whiteford Nov 24, 2012 2:35 AM

got to tell you, i love this tower. i dont give a rats ass that someone else says its crap. i think it is pure art.

ThatOneGuy Dec 9, 2012 6:26 PM

http://i.imgur.com/c8Eos.jpg
http://instagram.com/p/S-jHdZFmAQ/

Okayyou Jan 19, 2013 7:39 PM

From August:


Decades to Launch by Porter Yates, on Flickr

ThatOneGuy Mar 7, 2013 2:22 AM

http://www.uniqhotels.com/media/hote...n%20holden.jpg
uniqhotels.com

Friggin mods deleting my posts...:rolleyes:

wakamesalad Mar 7, 2013 2:34 AM

I'm waiting for the top to snap back like a Pez dispenser and out comes an ICBM.


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