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Martin Pal Jan 3, 2018 9:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffDiego (Post 8034687)
The new documentary about Scotty Bowers, "Scotty and The Secret History of Hollywood," premiered this fall at film festivals in Toronto and New York, and the reviews have been uniformly positive.
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Thank, Jeff, I was unaware a documentary was being made about the Scotty Bowers Full Service book. (I'd read it when it came out.)


Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffDiego (Post 8034687)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/raaULq.jpg
Scotty with pals, presumably some of his "studs-for-hire," with unidentified woman, mid 1950's.
http://wstale.com/wp-content/uploads...history_01.jpg
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I don't suppose it would be possible to identify this red building with the scant lettering seen from a sign on it?

DavidWilliam Jan 3, 2018 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidWilliam (Post 8035062)
I am very familiar with this place. It's the old Phillips Ranch. You can look it up under SCVHistory.com and search Phillips Ranch. It will probably be the first thing that comes up. Sorry to see it all torn down. It was quite a place in it's day.

I did see your post. I'm a brand new member of Skyscraper and had a little trouble figuring out how to post so I did it more than once.

CityBoyDoug Jan 3, 2018 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidWilliam (Post 8035460)
I did see your post. I'm a brand new member of Skyscraper and had a little trouble figuring out how to post so I did it more than once.

Welcome David. One of the easiest ways to learn how to post on this site is to click ''Quote'' [button on lower right side]. The Field that pops up will reveal all of the mechanics of their post. At least that should help you to see how they made their post.. :tup::)

CityBoyDoug Jan 3, 2018 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Slauson Slim (Post 8035106)
....cooly said, "Don't tell your mother." .

Slim:
Father-Son bonding is very difficult to happen, if ever.

You were able to more or less do it in one day.....one of the best stories I have seen on NLA. :tup:

JeffDiego Jan 3, 2018 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 8035385)
Thank, Jeff, I was unaware a documentary was being made about the Scotty Bowers Full Service book. (I'd read it when it came out.)





I don't suppose it would be possible to identify this red building with the scant lettering seen from a sign on it?

There's a bit of a GOOGIE touch to the look of the bldg. And is that a pink '56'or '57 Thunderbird or Lincoln - or some kinda sports car - the gang is leaning against?

Earl Boebert Jan 4, 2018 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffDiego (Post 8035571)
There's a bit of a GOOGIE touch to the look of the bldg. And is that a pink '56'or '57 Thunderbird or Lincoln - or some kinda sports car - the gang is leaning against?

Looks to me like a pink T-Bird. You can just make out what appears to be "er" in the lower right corner of the picture.

And I'll be willing to bet that the second word of the sign on the building is "Garden"

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality Jan 4, 2018 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8035205)
There seems to have been a mixup in labeling the photos, because "5041 Felton Avenue" is actually 5021 W. 117th Street at Tahoe Avenue.

The second house is 5001 W. 119th Place at the NW corner of Felton Avenue.

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8035240)
:previous:

You beat me to it FW!

Here's 5021 W 117th Street, Hawthorne, not far from the house that Google suggested. The property websites give a build date of 1992, which is a year after the photographer's date.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...7thStreet1.jpg
GSV

Looking at Historic Aerials, the street was originally cut about four houses west when the freeway was built. The expansion work seen in e_r's picture made this the corner of the street, and this house appears to be a different shape compared to the one in the 1980 aerial, so maybe it was built around then. The neighboring houses were built in the '40s.

NB. GSV insists that this is Tahoe Avenue.

Thanks for sorting all that out you two. I was stumped.

Maybe you saw this already but here is how the photograph was labeled at Krull. (I noticed my link was broken in the first post)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/kb1wbO.jpg


and in LAMAG

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/ieKFYn.jpg

As you can see, the "5021 Felton Avenue" address wasn't just a figment of my imagination.
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update:

Oh man, I just looked at my original post again and I typed 5041 instead of 5021. I am so sorry.

now I understand what FW was trying to tell me. (although the address turned out to be an entirely different street as well :shrug:)


not an excuse, but it's been subzero since I first mentioned the record setting MINUS -10....yesterday morning it was MINUS -18

Flyingwedge Jan 4, 2018 1:40 AM

:previous: I only noticed the mislabeling of the street name -- that's what I meant by the "mixup" :)

What really threw me was what HossC mentioned about GSV labeling 117th as Tahoe.

tovangar2 Jan 4, 2018 2:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8035639)
...it's been subzero since I first mentioned the record setting MINUS -10....yesterday morning it was MINUS -18



In LA it will be 70F again tomorrow, no relief in sight.

CityBoyDoug Jan 4, 2018 3:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 8035731)
In LA it will be 70F again tomorrow, no relief in sight.

Its a Tropical Heatwave

https://i.giphy.com/media/aIPs0YOQibBaU/200.gif
https://i.giphy.com/media/aIPs0YOQibBaU/200.gif


Irving Berlin – Heat Wave

We're having a heat wave,
A tropical heat wave,
The temperature's rising,
It isn't surprising,
She certainly can can-can.

ethereal_reality Jan 4, 2018 3:36 AM

:previous: Oh, you two are real funny.

ethereal_reality Jan 4, 2018 4:21 AM

I happened upon this sepia rppc on ebay the other day. (I don't recall seeing it on nla) I could be wrong.

"Postcard LOS ANGELES CA Congress Tourist Hotel 4 Story Building 1907"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/fV22Qv.jpg

You can find the postcard HERE

The Congress Hotel was located at 607 1/2 N. Main per the 1907 city directory.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/cKwX22.jpglapl

I find it strange that a building this size has an address with 1/2.
Is this the correct building?

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ethereal_reality Jan 4, 2018 4:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottyB (Post 8033600)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/GyeThb.jpg

The football uniform was a Christmas present that I was so very pleased with I decided to wear it to choir practice the following day.

SB, I sang in the church choir as well (but I didn't practice wearing a football uniform) lol :lmao:


great pic!

Flyingwedge Jan 4, 2018 6:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8035828)
I happened upon this sepia rppc on ebay the other day. (I don't recall seeing it on nla) I could be wrong.

"Postcard LOS ANGELES CA Congress Tourist Hotel 4 Story Building 1907"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/fV22Qv.jpg

You can find the postcard HERE

The Congress Hotel was located at 607 1/2 N. Main per the 1907 city directory.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/cKwX22.jpglapl

I find it strange that a building this size has an address with 1/2.
Is this the correct building?

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I don't know about the Congress Hotel, but the RPPC shows the NE and SE corners of 8th and Flower:

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 7388308)
This 1916 photo looks at the east side of Flower Street toward 8th, with the 1st English Lutheran Church on the corner:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...m.jpg~original
00013875 @ LAPL -- http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics08/00013875.jpg

Thank you for continuing to check ebay for pics, e_r!

Tourmaline Jan 4, 2018 1:48 PM

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Grand Marshall Richard Nixon and a brand new Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz in the 1960 Rose Parade
https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...5c&oe=5AB29B41https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...5c&oe=5AB29B41





Keeping the peace, elsewhere in Pasadena . . .



As found, no additional information.

"Pasadena Police"
https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...d7&oe=5AEF3B36https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...d7&oe=5AEF3B36

Andys Jan 4, 2018 3:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidWilliam (Post 8035062)
I am very familiar with this place. It's the old Phillips Ranch. You can look it up under SCVHistory.com and search Phillips Ranch. It will probably be the first thing that comes up. Sorry to see it all torn down. It was quite a place in it's day.

Thanks DW for the info. I've driven by the Phillips Ranch gate many times since the 1970's, but never thought to stop there; I regret not witnessing this part of the SCV's rich history.
Andys

Martin Pal Jan 4, 2018 7:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffDiego (Post 8035571)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/raaULq.jpg
Scotty with pals, presumably some of his "studs-for-hire," with unidentified woman, mid 1950's.
http://wstale.com/wp-content/uploads...history_01.jpg

There's a bit of a GOOGIE touch to the look of the bldg. And is that a pink '56'or '57 Thunderbird or Lincoln - or some kinda sports car - the gang is leaning against?
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I noticed that the car was pink!

Was trying to think of any red buildings around Hollywood. The Formosa Cafe is, but their lettering isn't like that. Unless it was something around the back area where no one usually takes pictures.

There's also that 100 year old grocery building on Fountain, is it?

And Ga something isn't much to go on...

Garden / Game / Gan...

tovangar2 Jan 4, 2018 7:59 PM

The Hotels Congress
 
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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 8035901)
I don't know about the Congress Hotel, but the RPPC shows the NE and SE corners of 8th and Flower:

Thank you FW. I knew that PC image wasn't near the Plaza, but couldn't place it.

The PC does picture a Congress Hotel, which you correctly placed at W 8th and Flower (plus the Lutheran Church):
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/qk...Y=w705-h518-no
baist 1921, plate 8

The other Congress Hotel was apparently south of the Sentous Block at 607 1/2 Main (the address presumably indicating it was upstairs above retail). You've taken us there before:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MW...6=w576-h518-no
baist, 1921, plate 3

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge (Post 6183772)
North Main Street view of Sentous Block demolition, December 1, 1957:
http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3c547c6b.jpg
Huntington Digital Library -- http://cdm16003.contentdm.oclc.org/c...id/6159/rec/19


ethereal_reality Jan 4, 2018 11:18 PM

Thanks for the information Flyingwedge and tovangar2. I really appreciate your help.

ethereal_reality Jan 5, 2018 1:57 AM

Whenever I'm snooping around on google-earth...if I notice what looks like, a recently excavated lot I zoom down for a closer look. -to see what used to be there.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/gbsl8B.jpg
google_earth



Much to my surprise, this lot has been vacant for as far back as the earliest street views.

2007 - 2017
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/LKC6Ti.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/PnHjxJ.jpg

(although there is a segment of a river rock wall)




But the real story, as it turns out, is the house next to the empty lot. (facing Lake Avenue)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/fAQIWK.jpg
google_earth


The one that's nestled between a Tattoo Parlor and Avis/Budget Rent A Car. :(

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/Nd7FuL.jpg
gsv



The house was known, a long time ago, as 'Ah-Tshi-Quah-Nah'.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Lan1jP.jpg
avenue to the sky

The bungalow was the home of nature writer Charles Francis Saunders, and was, along with its gardens, a major tourist attraction in Pasadena during the great hiking era
which existed from the early 1900's through the early 1930's.



This view shows the house during the time Mr. Saunders was in residence. (he moved there in 1906)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/crimiw.jpg
bungalows of pasadena




one of Mr. Saunders publications.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/t3T7hd.jpg
gloria freshly art and design (this reminded me of your books odinthor)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...922/92atUv.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/PhIWrf.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/pDOS3Z.jpghttps://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...923/wWHqrW.jpg
gloria freshly art and design





And here's where the story connects with that empty lot behind the house.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/rfHBcy.jpg
bungalows of pasadena

"Charles Saunders and his first wife, Elisabeth (died 1910), both avid gardeners, are seen having tea under their backyard arbor.
The creek and the lagoon in the background were later channelized."

"The creek and the lagoon in the background were later channelized."

Wow!...so of course I revisited the empty lot. this time I noticed an open 'ditch' nearby. (a remnant of the creek?)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/6kKzyY.jpg
google_earth



Here I'm guessing where the stream once flowed through the Saunders' property.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/YsS6tD.jpg
google_earth

but I have no idea how large the 'lagoon' was.
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postscript:

the stream was known as Wilson's Creek.


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