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GaylordWilshire Oct 25, 2012 9:53 PM

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-t...620%2520PM.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6...ejeanbw639.jpg

Rene & Jean was a French Restaurant started sometime in the early-to-mid '30s by Rene Faron, Leon Bevillard, and Jean Ibert. The first locations appear to have been 719 W 6th St and 3070 W 7th St, the latter formerly the home of 1920s restaurants called Hickey & Jackson and Martini & Gallotti. By 1936, the downtown location had moved to 639 W S Olive; both Olive and 7th were operated at least into the '40s. Later, the 7th St location appears to have been operated alone, by 1956 becoming "Jean's French Restaurant." Below is a colorized shot of the Olive location and a b&w version with the addition of a burglar alarm that's the same make or monitoring company as the one at the 7th St location seen at bottom. Just below is the interior of 639 S Olive. In 1938, Rene was the president, Jean the treasurer, and Jean's wife Belle the secretary. All three location are now gone.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1...2520PM.bmp.jpg


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All LAPL

malumot Oct 25, 2012 10:57 PM

Apparently it does!.......

And in a quirk of numerical symmetry......you're the 10,000th post!

You win a grocery basket of S&H Green Stamps. ;)





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Originally Posted by KevinW (Post 5879887)
Just wondering if this really does go to 501...


unihikid Oct 25, 2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinW (Post 5879753)
So for the last month, I've been working at a company in the Helms Bakery building. I've always loved this place. I put these two pictures on my computer desktop:

http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...e-Helms194.jpg
Alan Weeks Collection

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8421/7...752703300f.jpg
C. Younkers


They've done a beautiful job renovating this place:

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...46348974_n.jpg
Helms

with one exception. Here is a picture of the Helms H. It's on every sign in the place:

https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profil...uvpgzxxkh.jpeg
Helms

Now here is a picture of one of the fifty concrete trashcans in the complex:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_U5Rzej2SpT...s320/Helms.JPG


Notice anything unusual? How about the fact that they're upside down? They spend all that money on the renovation, go to the expense of creating Helms H trash receptacles, and then install them upside down. Ah, L.A.

that would bug me if i worked there lol....maybe the cyliders are upside down.They had an antique alley there about 15 yrs ago,and near the entrance was a old restored helms truck,they would let you toot the whistle,and had fake bread and donuts in it,it was a great touch.the stuff in the store was great also,we got my head and footboard there super cheap,they also had a ton of old radio consoles,i was pretty sad when they closed along with the one at farmers market.

and isnt that a nice little pe station in the alan weeks photo.

KevinW Oct 25, 2012 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 5880033)
that would bug me if i worked there lol....maybe the cyliders are upside down.They had an antique alley there about 15 yrs ago,and near the entrance was a old restored helms truck,they would let you toot the whistle,and had fake bread and donuts in it,it was a great touch.the stuff in the store was great also,we got my head and footboard there super cheap,they also had a ton of old radio consoles,i was pretty sad when they closed along with the one at farmers market.

and isnt that a nice little pe station in the alan weeks photo.

Nowadays, there's a cute little art piece on the Washington Blvd side that has half a bread truck crashed into the side of the building with bread falling out the back into an Olympic O's shaped pool. I'm actually working in the Beacon Laundry building which is just across the alley, which is now a promenade from Helms.

As for the trash cans, no, you can simply flip them. There's an opening on top (bottom) and the bottom (top) is cemented to a base. I'll post a picture of it tomorrow...

Arch2000 Oct 26, 2012 12:10 AM

Congrats to all on the thread making it to 10,000 posts+, and more than 500 pages (and to still be here). :cheers:

I started reading from page 1 several months ago, literally every post, and I'm currently up to page 388! I also started reading from a page in the 450's when I first joined the discussion a few weeks ago. The gap is closing!!

There are several buildings I'd like to discuss that I know will fit in great here, but I'll hold my tongue until I get all the way through the thread and make sure they haven't be discussed yet on the 80 or so pages I still have to read...

Jeff Clark Oct 26, 2012 12:23 PM

Hi Arch2000, If you know the name of a building or simply its street you can search this thread easily--as long as you are logged in. When logged in you can see a "search this thread" box up near the top-right edge of the page. You do not need to read the entire thread before posting. A little duplication is not a sin.

Mayor Shaw Oct 27, 2012 12:39 AM

Train Tunnel Follow Up
 
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This is taken at the south entrance of the tunnel looking north
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Again looking north, just inside the tunnel. The white spot seen in the distance is the north mouth of the tunnel
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Just as I was leaving and about half-way up the embankment, a train came by. I wasn't in the best position, but was able to snap it as it entered the tunnel
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GaylordWilshire Oct 27, 2012 12:54 AM

:previous:

Fantastic shots, Frank. Right down on the tracks.

Mayor Shaw Oct 27, 2012 1:18 AM

Thanks G_W it was fun. The Santa Anna's are blowing today, so it was a perfect Fall day

ethereal_reality Oct 27, 2012 2:44 AM

I certainly wasn't expecting this. 1875/1920 in the shadow of four levels of freeway.

posted by Mayor Shaw
http://imageshack.us/a/img51/3547/aabtunnel.jpg

Thanks for traipsing down there....it's much appreciated. :)

Man, do I miss the Santa Anna's.
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ethereal_reality Oct 27, 2012 3:31 AM

I found this photo on an old cd of mine.

http://imageshack.us/a/img545/6186/k...andaveradi.jpg

I googled it and referenced it back to this site. http://www.radiocityhollywood.com/




below: The building still stands at 1440 North Highland Avenue.

http://imageshack.us/a/img812/7666/aabkecatoday.jpg
google street view

Does anyone know the original purpose of this building...even before it's KECA days?
Could it possibly have been a fire station? (note the three arched doors fronting the street)
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ethereal_reality Oct 27, 2012 3:48 AM

I found this photograph on ebay several years ago. The only information is Los Angeles.

http://imageshack.us/a/img411/3295/s...ngelesebay.jpg





below: There appears to be a pastoral mural, or sign, between the windows on the facade.

http://imageshack.us/a/img821/6866/signsl1detail.jpg




below: There's one on the right side as well. (to me it looks like a tranquil pond with trees)

http://imageshack.us/a/img545/2733/signsl1a.jpg

above: I can't quite make out the street numbers. Is it 1033...1053....or perhaps 1055? I can't quite make it out.

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ethereal_reality Oct 27, 2012 4:36 AM

The Hotel Van Nuys, Main Street Los Angeles. I found this on ebay just this week.

http://imageshack.us/a/img37/4751/aabvannuys1896.jpg
ebay

The mystery is: What is this small 'museum' that appears in the lower left hand corner??







I can't quite make out this sign.

http://imageshack.us/a/img195/5396/aabebay1896.jpg
detail/ebay

above: Notice the small boy on his bicycle..lower right.
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Mayor Shaw Oct 27, 2012 5:29 AM

:previous: I think that sign reads Curios. We are looking at it from the backside, reading right to left

The 1915 City Directory shows the Dromgold-Schroeder Co. at 1033 S. Los Angeles:

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1033 South Los Angeles today:

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so-cal-bear Oct 27, 2012 11:43 AM

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MichaelRyerson Oct 27, 2012 12:44 PM

And it appears a small sign on the fascia (at the left) says (c)urio store.

Jeff Clark Oct 27, 2012 1:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5881610)
I certainly wasn't expecting this. 1875/1920 in the shadow of four levels of freeway.

posted by Mayor Shaw
http://imageshack.us/a/img51/3547/aabtunnel.jpg

Thanks for traipsing down there....it's much appreciated. :)

Man, do I miss the Santa Anna's.
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When I see this I don't think of balmy Santa Ana's, I think of how cold it was on that freight train I hopped one night out of the north end of the LA freight yard. When I went under this sign and into that tunnel it was about 11:00 PM on a moonless night. My buddy Rick and I were huddled behind the wheels of a semi trailer on a flatbed rail car. We thought we were catching a freight up to Santa Barbara, but woo-hoo we were on our way across the mountains and up to Bakersfield. If you want noire it's hard to beat freight yards. The Bakersfield yard at 4 AM was particularly hard to beat.

esotouric Oct 27, 2012 4:31 PM

Event: George Mann's Lost Los Angeles (LAPL, 11/14/12, free)
 
On November 14, LAVA – The Los Angeles Visionaries Association and the On Bunker Hill time travel blog in association with the Los Angeles Public Library Photo Collection and Photo Friends present George Mann’s Lost Los Angeles, a celebration of a newly-discovered treasure trove of mid-century photographs captured by the one-time Vaudeville dance sensation, and projected for the first time tonight in stunning 3-D Kodachrome. Join us as historians Richard Schave (Esotouric) and Nathan Marsak (On Bunker Hill) contextualize the places, 3-D experts Susan Pinsky and David Starkman (Reel 3-D) demystify the format’s history and technology, and Bunker Hill native son Gordon Pattison takes us on a virtual tour of his beloved neighborhood.

http://lavatransforms.org/sites/defa...ar/BH112-S.jpg

For more info on this free event, visit the LAVA website:
http://lavatransforms.org/mann3d

ethereal_reality Oct 27, 2012 6:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Clark (Post 5881811)
When I see this I don't think of balmy Santa Ana's, I think of how cold it was on that freight train I hopped one night out of the north end of the LA freight yard. When I went under this sign and into that tunnel it was about 11:00 PM on a moonless night. My buddy Rick and I were huddled behind the wheels of a semi trailer on a flatbed rail car. We thought we were catching a freight up to Santa Barbara, but woo-hoo we were on our way across the mountains and up to Bakersfield. If you want noire it's hard to beat freight yards. The Bakersfield yard at 4 AM was particularly hard to beat.

I thought this was an excerpt from a Raymond Chandler novel. It isn't.....is it?
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GaylordWilshire Oct 27, 2012 9:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5881643)
I found this photo on an old cd of mine.

http://imageshack.us/a/img545/6186/k...andaveradi.jpg

I googled it and referenced it back to this site. http://www.radiocityhollywood.com/


below: The building still stands at 1440 North Highland Avenue.

http://imageshack.us/a/img812/7666/aabkecatoday.jpg
google street view

Does anyone know the original purpose of this building...even before it's KECA days?
Could it possibly have been a fire station? (note the three arched doors fronting the street)
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ER: The building seems to have been built as the block-long Knights of Columbus hall in the late '20s. The KoC hall had the address of 1441 N McCadden; I couldn't find much ready info on the the Highland end, but perhaps it was a theater. KECA seems to have become KABC in 1954; other tenants included Frank Flynn's insurance company and a business school. Lately, it's been home to studios for various creative pursuits.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-E...2520PM.bmp.jpgLos Angeles Times July 29, 1956

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F...2520PM.bmp.jpgLos Angeles Times June 10, 1936

Frank Flynn's operations seem to have also occupied the addresses between KECA and the little building down the street, which is also still there:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m...2520PM.bmp.jpgGoogle SV


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