[ColDayMan]

Originally Posted by plinko

Like I said, to me it's about the design intent. The antenna bases on Sears probably should count, but beyond that the antenna over the years has changed several times. It doesn't contribute overall to the architecture of the building. The Hancock, the old 2WTC, the Empire State, 4 Times Sq, 1 Shell Square are all similar for me.

If you changed out the spires on Petronas or Chrysler, it would dramatically alter the building's architecture.

Like I stated, I don't count all spires and I don't count any antennas.

In the case of New York, I look at it this way:

ESB: 1,250'
Chrysler: 1,046'
American International: 952'
Bank of America: 945'
40 Wall: 927'
Citicorp: 915'
Trump World: 861'
G.E.: 850'
Citispire: 814'
Chase Manhattan: 813'
4 Times Square: 809'
MetLife: 808'
Bloomberg: 806'
New York Times: +/- 800' (top of the parapet wall)

I realize that it doesn't create a clear cut system, but that's just how I see it. And for those that would argue with me about this, I guess the Chrysler Building isn't a supertall then and was never the tallest building in the world?

I generally agree (particularly with Petronas and Chrysler) except for this:

The new 1WTC is also to the top of the spire.

It's the same theory as BoA or 4 Times Square. Take the "spire" off the new 1WTC and it doesn't alter the architecture either, really.