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Originally Posted by Reecemartin
The 15,000 pphpd figure is very unrealistic given how crowded stations already are. These figures are all very much inflated (as usual with these type of projects) simply making the trains longer and running them more frequently is going to be useless. If a train takes 30 seconds (thats fast) to dwell and the platform takes 30 seconds to clear (also fast) then we will have constantly crowded platforms at 2 min frequencies. The figures that everyone loves to run around with are just like fuel efficiency measures, absolutely unrealistic best case scenarios.
The multiple entrance exit point is just silly. Every other city has them the only reason we don't is so that our toy train could be open for the olympics and fit in the budget.
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Not trying to pick on you or be a dick, but you seem to have two completely different personalities between the Canada Line and the Surrey LRT.
Despite the abysmal build out capacity numbers / points of conflict shown for the LRT you do your best to circumnavigate them and flower up the entire project.
You then do the complete opposite for the Canada Line which is far superior to the current Surrey LRT in all shapes and forms.
Perfect example is the second expansion for achieving max capacity. The same is planned for the Surrey LRT, yet there you spin it as a common necessity that most major transit lines go through to achieve max capacity. No for the Canada Line this is a very negative aspect that is almost discounted?
I am not completely disagreeing with you, several of the Canada Line stations do need better circulation, especially Van City Centre. Good news is all stations are pre-designed for the 50 meter expansion. Also YVR has a second platform in their future plans for YVR, and it looks like Oakridge 41st Station May get its full 50 meters plus an expanded entrance (maybe even a secondary entrance directly to the mall if Translink plays its card right) with the new mall redevelopment.
As for Van City Centre that is up to us to pester Translink and the city of Vancouver for a second entrance (preferably from the south side of the station).
Also it was largely the city of Vancouver that demanded single entrances for safety. They were also against proper underground connections because of the hippy idea of forcing everyone to street level.
Also the Broadway Subway will likely highly improve the Canada Line Broadway Station.
The Canada Line has flaws, but it is no where near as bad as being spun here. And yes, with the expanded platforms and a few key station modifications (several of them already planned as shown) the Canada Line will meet its max capacity (more than 3 times the planned max capacity of the Surrey LRT as shown in the official documents).