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San Diego is pretty remarkable in that it has a lot of steep unbuildable hillsides and ravines amidst the developed area but still manages to be fairly high on the list.

I was going to use that excuse for Seattle. But really we also still have a lot of non-dense sprawl from before growth management. Including -- most influential -- a lot of outer sprawl that's sort of housing-horsefarm-housing-woods-housing on the edges that's just dense enough to meet the UA criteria.