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Old Posted Apr 12, 2013, 7:03 PM
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Originally Posted by memph View Post
The 2006 Census numbers are a bit different and seem to show less long distance commuting... Hamilton and Kawartha Lakes both fall slightly short of the requirements to join Toronto's MSA and would only be part of the CSA.

Toronto's MSA would include the GTA+Dufferin County for a population of 6,111,072

Hamilton's MSA would actually include Haldimand as an outlying county for a population 564,825, smaller than the CMA due to the loss of Burlington and Grimsby to Toronto and St. Catharines-Niagara's MSAs. Not entirely unfair since Burlington is more connected to Toronto's CMA than Hamilton's.

Kitchener Waterloo's MSA would have 507,096 people.

Toronto's CSA would include the Hamilton MSA, as well as Simcoe County, Kawartha Lakes and Northumberland County for a total of 7,277,300 people.

Kitchener's CSA would still include Wellington County for 715,456 people and would.

Brantford, St Catharine-Niagara and Peterborough's MSAs would not be part of any CSA.
I dispute the idea that Burlington is more connected to Toronto than Hamilton. People watch Hamilton media there, and are ticats fans and much of Hamilton's elite lives in Burlington.

Why would Hamilton lose Grimsby and Burlington? People fail to understand that most people who live in the current Hamilton CMA also work in the Hamilton CMA. A lot of the jobs happen to be in Burlington though, as this has been where most of the industrial and office development has been for the past 30 years (prime land along the QEW). A lot more Hamiltonians work in Burlington than vice versa. But more Burlington residents work in Burlington+Hamilton than in the Toronto CMA. If anything, Burlington is part of the western GTA rather than Toronto itself. Very close ties with Oakville and Mississauga.
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